[Mary Etheldreda]

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Praise Jesus and hallelujah! In a world so wrong, some things are still so right!

In addition to Slovakia, wherever that is, we also have the Godly American state of Oklahoma, Praise Him! The wonderful and beautiful Christian Rep. Sally Kern has introduced 3 bills upholding the Will of the Lord, including one declaring the right of parents to force their supposedly "gay" children (as if children are old enough to make a choice like that) into conversion programs.

Bless you, Mrs. Kern! Your Husband must be so proud.

It just goes to show you, when True Christians™ pray for courageous representatives to lead our nation, the LORD delivers!

Hallelujah!

[VictoryOS]

Re: Top Ten Reasons Why GAY MARRIAGE is WRONG!

Praise Jesus and hallelujah! In a world so wrong, some things are still so right!

In addition to Slovakia, wherever that is, we also have the Godly American state of Oklahoma, Praise Him! The wonderful and beautiful Christian Rep. Sally Kern has introduced 3 bills upholding the Will of the Lord, including one declaring the right of parents to force their supposedly "gay" children (as if children are old enough to make a choice like that) into conversion programs.

Bless you, Mrs. Kern! Your Husband must be so proud.

[ExGay Alex]

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I want to share a delightful Facebook page from Slovakia.

https://www.facebook.com/zastavme.autogenocidu

On February 7, they will have a referendum there on three questions: 1. Do you agree that marriage is only between a man and a woman, 2. Do you believe that homosexuals should not be allowed to adopt children, and 3. Do you believe that children should have the right to opt out of sexual education in schools?

There is a great video posted recently, with a delightful young boy who looks like he has very fresh smelling hair. He says that "Marriage is love and mutual attention, but some people say it looks like this: [point to two gay guys kissing]." He continues: "If you think this is normal, stay home on February 7. But the rest of you come and vote a clear yes for marriage, family and good upbringing." That is, yes, that they agree with questions 1 to 3 above.

I do not vote in Slovakia, but I wish I did. Just look at these two gay perverts and how they touch this sweet little tender boy's face. Very suggestive.

I hope all of Slovakia will vote yes on Feb. 7 in support of normalcy. "Do you want to live in this?" the boy asks the camera at the end of the video. Ick. I can only imagine living in a house with these two gay guys going at it all day long. If you pressed a glass to the wall, you could probably hear them in their room doing all sorts of grossness to each other.

[MitzaLizalor]

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Wait, are you saying that people are born ALL of them? L + G + B + T all at once? Do you then choose which one you are going to be later on, or do you continue being all four?

That sort of talk just goes to show the nonsense you lifestyle-deniers spout.

These fools never quote any of the "science" they rely on to support their delusion that, because it is natural[sic], homosexualists ought to be married. Before moving on to the marriage question it needs to be established whether or not their behaviours are natural. And that has not been established.

Indeed the very psychiatrist instrumental in getting homosexuality excised from the list of mental disorders [Spitzer, v.i.] changed his opinion in the light of new evidence. I cited numerous references in a reply just a couple of years ago but since the GLBTZ community seems unable to either look up or cite actual research I will reproduce the post here, complete with sources.

In her first point the lesbian demonstrated an inability to even read the very straightforward Scriptural position, let alone quote it, before misrepresenting God's Clear Commandment on the subject. That has already been answered. Next, with an erratum, we have the regurgitated baloney about "born that way" entirely free of sources or research outcomes and in the secularist model of things "born that way" means genetics. Until someone posts an alternative (I'm not holding my breath). And the gene they proclaim is Xq28.

Xq28

On this occasion I am going to deviate from my policy of only posting balanced and accurate information.
It will still be accurate BUT I AM GOING TO POST MATERIAL FROM HOMOSEXUAL ACTIVISTS so that you can see how ridiculous any assertion about "Born that way" or "Being gay is genetic" really is.

1

FROM: Robert L. Spitzer, “Can Some Gay Men and Lesbians Change Their Sexual Orientation?”, Archives of Sexual Behavior, Vol. 32, No. 5, October 2003: 403-417.

Columbia University Professor of Psychiatry Dr. Robert Spitzer, who was instrumental in removing homosexuality in 1973 from the American Psychiatric Association’s list of mental disorders, wrote a study published in the October 2003 Archives of Sexual Behavior. He contended that people can change their “sexual orientation” from homosexual to heterosexual. Spitzer interviewed more than 200 people, most of whom claimed that through reparative therapy counseling, their desires for same-sex partners either diminished significantly or they changed over to heterosexual orientation. Although still a proponent of homosexual activism, Spitzer has been attacked unmercifully by former admirers for this breach of the ideology that people are “born gay and can’t change.” Immutability is a central tenet of demands for “gay rights” and “gay marriage.”

2

FROM: William Byne and Bruce Parsons, “Human Sexual Orientation: The Biologic Theories Reappraised,” Archives of General Psychiatry, Vol. 50, March 1993: 228-239.

There is no evidence at present to substantiate a biologic theory. ... The appeal of current biologic explanations for sexual orientation may derive more from dissatisfaction with the present status of psychosocial explanations than from a substantiating body of experimental data.

NOTE: Byne & Parsons [Columbia University] found numerous methodological flaws in all of the studies undertaken ino "gay genes".

3

FROM: American Psychiatric Association: fact sheet, “Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual Issues,” May 2000

“Currently, there is a renewed interest in searching for biological etiologies for homosexuality. However, to date there are no replicated scientific studies supporting any specific biological etiology for homosexuality.”

4
LESBIANS

FROM: Charles Socarides, A Freedom Too Far: A Psychoanalyst Answers 1,000 Questions About Causes and Cure and the Impact of the Gay Rights Movement on American Society Adam Margrave Books, 1996 pp151-152 & pp115-155
Laura Sessions Stepp, “Partway Gay? For Some Teen Girls, Sexual Preference Is a Shifting Concept,” The Washington Post, January 4, 2004, p. D-1.
Lisa M. Diamond, “Was it a phase? Young women’s relinquishment of lesbian/bisexual identities over a 5-year period,” Journal of Personality & Social Psychology (2004).

Other recent developments also suggest that homosexuality is not genetically determined. The Washington Post reported that bisexuality is fashionable among many young teen girls, who go back and forth from being “straight” to “gay” to “bi” to “straight” again. Post reporter Laura Sessions Stepp writes: Recent studies among women suggest that female homosexuality may be grounded more in social interaction, may present itself as an emotional attraction in addition to or in place of a physical one, and may change over time. She cites one such study by Lisa M. Diamond, assistant professor of psychology and gender studies at the University of Utah, who in 1994 began studying a group of females aged 16 to 23 who were attracted to other females. Over the course of the study, “almost two-thirds have changed labels,” Stepp reports.

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TWINS

FROM: J. Michael Bailey, Richard C. Pillard, “A Genetic Study of Male Sexual Orientation,” Archives of General Psychiatry 48 (1991) 1089ff
Satinover, Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth, p. 85.

In 1991, J. Michael Bailey and Richard C. Pillard published a study that examined identical and fraternal twin brothers and adopted brothers in an effort to establish a genetic link to homosexuality. Fifty-two percent of the identical twins were reportedly homosexual, while only 22 percent of fraternal twins fell into the same category. But since identical twins have identical genetic material, the fact that nearly half of the identical twins were heterosexual effectively refutes the idea that homosexuality has a genetic basis.

“This finding alone argues for the enormous importance of nongenetic factors influencing homosexuality,” writes Dr. Jeffrey Satinover, “because ... in order for something to be genetically determined, as opposed to merely influenced, the genetic heritability would need to approach 100 percent.” Satinover, a psychiatrist, notes that “identical twins reared together share more significant environmental influences than nonidentical twins reared together,” and that narcissism, a key component of homosexuality, is more likely among identical twins who “grow up with mirror images of themselves.”

6

FROM: Dean H. Hamer, George Rice, Neil Risch, and George Ebers,et al. “Genetics and Male Sexual Orientation” Technical Comment, Science 285 6 August 1999: 803a.

Another fact that casts doubt on Hamer’s conclusions is that other researchers tried to replicate his study but failed. In 1999, Drs. George Rice, Neil Risch and George Ebers published their findings in Science after attempting to replicate Hamer’s Xq28 study. Their conclusion: “We were not able to confirm evidence for an Xq28-linked locus underlying male homosexuality.”
Moreover, they added that when another group of researchers (Sanders, et al.) tried to replicate Hamer’s study, they too failed to find a genetic connection to homosexuality.

The information from Dr. Robert Spitzer [Professor of Psychiatry (Columbia University)] is particularly interesting.. You may recall that he was associated with the removal of homosexuality from the register of mental disorders.
• He has not changed his position regarding the register of mental disorders.

Similarly Dr. William Byne readily advocates societal acceptance of homosexuality and “gay rights,” but nevertheless concludes, “Most of the links in the chain of reasoning from biology to social policy [regarding homosexuality], do not hold up under scrutiny.”

The ongoing evaluation of all these research programmes continues to yield only one result. There is no link between homosexual behaviours and genetics, according to the researchers who work in that area. The more studies done the stronger the evidence.

The researchers I've quoted all agree that homosexuals should not be discriminated against and some are political activists. I chose them for that reason. Whether they deliberately skewed their results or knowingly omitted data which would give a more accurate result is a question as yet unresolved, but they all now accept the data of numerous studies including not only Xq28 but a bizarre range of other "biological indicators" - none of which have any basis in reality. These (and others) are available as a pdf if the lesbian poster can be bothered reading it.

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But from her remarks so far I'd say that she's never read anything on this subject. The pdf might one place to start. THIS would be a better one.

The opinions of Christians however do not derive from research projects undertaken by homosexual &/or gay-activist professors of psychiatry. As Pastor Ezekiel has pointed out, God tells us what to think & that is what we think. I Corinthians 1:23

I won't apologise for reproducing virtually all of my 2011 post here, the deluded fools need to be made aware of what the "science" they refer to actually says. We have read it. They have not. We have also read The Bible. They have not (or have but are deliberately lying about what it says). ALL homosexuals are condemned BY GOD.

HELL is the destination they are choosing with its infinity of grief and it would be remiss not to remind them of that. Whether they listen, or read source material, is up to them.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

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I meant that you are born LGBT

Wait, are you saying that people are born ALL of them? L + G + B + T all at once? Do you then choose which one you are going to be later on, or do you continue being all four?

That sort of talk just goes to show the nonsense you lifestyle-deniers spout.

[Didymus Much]

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...This is my reply to the ignorance of this. Please reply...

Reply to what? Your opinions (and without references to verifiable external sources, that's all you've shared, is opinions, and opinions of some faceless, nameless, admitted sinner on the internet, at that)? Why?

Could there possibly exist information which would change your mind? If not, why even try?

[librallgbtchristian]

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1. Any place in the bible where homosexuality is specifically banned is in an extreme case: (I.e. homosexual prostitution in temples)
2. Nobody is born LGBT and actually science can prove it. What we want is acceptance, yes, but we defiantly aren't trying to "convert" kids! That's like saying that woman are trying to convert men into being female!
3. What?!?! Are you serious!?!?! 1. Others countries a already have LGBT marriage and THEY haven't all been fried off the earth!
4.Okay... Did you just insinuate that all men are pedophiles?!?!? 1. Why?? 2. LGBT people are no more likely to be pedophiles than straight people. Pedophillia is messed up because it takes advantage of innocent kids. Pedophila is a sexual perversion NOT a orientation
5. Yes, becuase kindergardeners are currently shown straight porn.
6. Of course, because 2 girls who have been together for twenty years getting married will defiantly destroy the sanctity of marriages like Britney Spear's.
7. Why didn't you put a number 7?
8. Actually yes. But the percentage will stay the same because LGBT couples are the same as straight couples and if there are more married couples there will be more divorces. So the number of divorced couples may go up but the percentage will stay about the same BECUASE THAT'S HOW STATISTICS WORK!
9. 1. No it won't a lot of LGBT couples don't even identify as top/bottom AND almost all couples don't have to different pronouns (I.e. Mrs. & Mrs. Smith) 2. Language evolves. (Gay used to mean fun, soiled dick used to be slang for straight talk exc.) So why is this even a issue? If the pronouns change, so what?
10.okay no. Did you even go to school. Hitler put gay people in GAS CHAMBERS. He locked them in concentration camps. He definitely didn't let them get married before he executed them!

This is my reply to the ignorance of this. Please reply.
-Lesbian Christian FTW

Look there is a typo in my last comment I meant that you are born LGBT you don't choose it.sry I messed up

[Didymus Much]

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...I've personally have had several woman try to force me into a dress...

Lemme guess: it was a size ten and you're what, a fourteen? Yeah, never gonna work.

[Bobby-Joe]

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2. Nobody is born LGBT and actually science can prove it. What we want is acceptance, yes, but we defiantly aren't trying to "convert" kids! That's like saying that woman are trying to convert men into being female!

But women are! Sister Talitha did this whole thing about how secular women will make their husbands dress up as women, complete with make up. I've personally have had several woman try to force me into a dress. That is the Darwinsta future friend; a nation full of lisping drag queens.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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1. Any place in the bible where homosexuality is specifically banned is in an extreme case: (I.e. homosexual prostitution in temples)

Then why doesn't the Bible ever say anything to the effect of "It's an abomination, but only in the context of temple prostitution"? You liberal false Christians who think you know what God meant to say evidently don't trust the Almighty to get His point across without your help.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Top Ten Reasons Why GAY MARRIAGE is WRONG!

1. Any place in the bible where homosexuality is specifically banned is in an extreme case: (I.e. homosexual prostitution in temples)
2. Nobody is born LGBT and actually science can prove it. What we want is acceptance, yes, but we defiantly aren't trying to "convert" kids! That's like saying that woman are trying to convert men into being female!
3. What?!?! Are you serious!?!?! 1. Others countries a already have LGBT marriage and THEY haven't all been fried off the earth!
4.Okay... Did you just insinuate that all men are pedophiles?!?!? 1. Why?? 2. LGBT people are no more likely to be pedophiles than straight people. Pedophillia is messed up because it takes advantage of innocent kids. Pedophila is a sexual perversion NOT a orientation
5. Yes, becuase kindergardeners are currently shown straight porn.
6. Of course, because 2 girls who have been together for twenty years getting married will defiantly destroy the sanctity of marriages like Britney Spear's.
7. Why didn't you put a number 7?
8. Actually yes. But the percentage will stay the same because LGBT couples are the same as straight couples and if there are more married couples there will be more divorces. So the number of divorced couples may go up but the percentage will stay about the same BECUASE THAT'S HOW STATISTICS WORK!
9. 1. No it won't a lot of LGBT couples don't even identify as top/bottom AND almost all couples don't have to different pronouns (I.e. Mrs. & Mrs. Smith) 2. Language evolves. (Gay used to mean fun, soiled dick used to be slang for straight talk exc.) So why is this even a issue? If the pronouns change, so what?
10.okay no. Did you even go to school. Hitler put gay people in GAS CHAMBERS. He locked them in concentration camps. He definitely didn't let them get married before he executed them!

This is my reply to the ignorance of this. Please reply.
-Lesbian Christian FTW

The bottom line is that being Gaywise is contradicting the Bible: being an invert is like unleashing a torrent of hot yellow urine into Jesus' crying face.

Why do you hate him so much?

YIC

[librallgbtchristian]

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1. Any place in the bible where homosexuality is specifically banned is in an extreme case: (I.e. homosexual prostitution in temples)
2. Nobody is born LGBT and actually science can prove it. What we want is acceptance, yes, but we defiantly aren't trying to "convert" kids! That's like saying that woman are trying to convert men into being female!
3. What?!?! Are you serious!?!?! 1. Others countries a already have LGBT marriage and THEY haven't all been fried off the earth!
4.Okay... Did you just insinuate that all men are pedophiles?!?!? 1. Why?? 2. LGBT people are no more likely to be pedophiles than straight people. Pedophillia is messed up because it takes advantage of innocent kids. Pedophila is a sexual perversion NOT a orientation
5. Yes, becuase kindergardeners are currently shown straight porn.
6. Of course, because 2 girls who have been together for twenty years getting married will defiantly destroy the sanctity of marriages like Britney Spear's.
7. Why didn't you put a number 7?
8. Actually yes. But the percentage will stay the same because LGBT couples are the same as straight couples and if there are more married couples there will be more divorces. So the number of divorced couples may go up but the percentage will stay about the same BECUASE THAT'S HOW STATISTICS WORK!
9. 1. No it won't a lot of LGBT couples don't even identify as top/bottom AND almost all couples don't have to different pronouns (I.e. Mrs. & Mrs. Smith) 2. Language evolves. (Gay used to mean fun, soiled dick used to be slang for straight talk exc.) So why is this even a issue? If the pronouns change, so what?
10.okay no. Did you even go to school. Hitler put gay people in GAS CHAMBERS. He locked them in concentration camps. He definitely didn't let them get married before he executed them!

This is my reply to the ignorance of this. Please reply.
-Lesbian Christian FTW

[Didymus Much]

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ah I'm sure if Satan is as Beautiful as it says on the bible...

And just where does the KJV say that?

[A smart ass named luke]

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ah I'm sure if Satan is as Beautiful as it says on the bible then I'm sure his "tallywacker" wouldn't be such a bad fate for a gay person

[Jim Farmer]

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Being gay is not whats called "progressive" coming out as gay is...because they can no longer be arrested...or outright beaten the a pulp anymore.

They may not be beaten to a pulp in this earthly life, but they certainly will when they come face to face with Satan's tallywhacker in Hell. And you call yourself a "smart" person?