[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Hi from a retarded kid.

i dont understand. when i spoke japanese it was removed and my icon was changed to something rude.

***PEDOPHILE POETRY REMOVED BY MODERATOR***Why? ***REFERENCES TO SHOGUN AND RICHARD CHAMBERLAIN'S HOMOEROTIC FILMS REMOVED BY MODERATOR***I do not understand.

You claimed to be Japanese. You lied.

Repent or face eternal damnation, pervert.

[Mrs. Elizabeth Johnson]

Re: Hi from a retarded kid.

Welcome, I'm praying for your hell-bound soul. You need it.

[retarded foreign lezbean]

Re: Hi from a retarded kid.

初めに言があった。言は神と共にあった。言は神であった。この言は初めに神と共にあった。すべてのものは、 これによってできた。できたもののうち、一つとしてこれによらないものはなかった。 この言に命があった。そしてこの命は人の光であった。 光はやみの中に輝いている。そして、やみはこれに勝たなかった。

ここにひとりの人があって、神からつかわされていた。その名をヨハネと言った。この人はあかしのためにきた 。光についてあかしをし、彼によってすべての人が信じるためである。彼は光ではなく、ただ、光についてあか しをするためにきたのである すべての人を照すまことの光があって、世にきた。彼は世にいた。そして、世は彼によってできたのであるが、 世は彼を知らずにいた。

彼は自分のところにきたのに、自分の民は彼を受けいれなかった。 しかし、彼を受けいれた者、すなわち、その名を信じた人々には、彼は神の子となる力を与えたの である。
それらの人は、血すじによらず、肉の欲によらず、また、人の欲にもよらず、ただ神によって生れ たのである。

そして言は肉体となり、わたしたちのうちに宿った。わたしたちはその栄光を見た。それは父のひとり子として の栄光であって、めぐみとまこととに満ちていた。
ヨハネは彼についてあかしをし、叫んで言った、「『わたしのあとに来るかたは、わたしよりもすぐれたかたで ある。わたしよりも先におられたからである』とわたしが言ったのは、この人のことである」。わたしたちすべ ての者は、その満ち満ちているものの中から受けて、めぐみにめぐみを加えられた。

律法はモーセをとおして与えられ、めぐみとまこととは、イエス・キリストをとおしてきたのである。神を見た 者はまだひとりもいない。ただ父のふところにいるひとり子なる神だけが、神をあらわしたのであ る。

さて、ユダヤ人たちが、エルサレムから祭司たちやレビ人たちをヨハネのもとにつかわして、「あなたはどなた ですか」と問わせたが、その時ヨハネが立てたあかしは、こうであった。

i dont understand. when i spoke japanese it was removed and my icon was changed to something rude.

***PEDOPHILE POETRY REMOVED BY MODERATOR***Why? ***REFERENCES TO SHOGUN AND RICHARD CHAMBERLAIN'S HOMOEROTIC FILMS REMOVED BY MODERATOR***I do not understand.

[retarded foreign lezbean]

Re: Hi from a retarded kid.

You show yourself as a liar

An Asperger's cannot understand friendship (as it is an emotion). Please don't use the punishment of others to validate yourself.

YIC

?????????
i'm trying to understand. i can say the word and still not understand.
i want to try!

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[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Hi from a retarded kid.

hi Hariyoki-san!

i am classified as being on the Autistic spectrum as well as diagnosed with Dissociative Identity Disorder. i hope we establish a long-term, healthy friendship!

You show yourself as a liar

An Asperger's cannot understand friendship (as it is an emotion). Please don't use the punishment of others to validate yourself.

YIC

[retarded foreign lezbean]

Re: Hi from a retarded kid.

hi Hariyoki-san!

i am classified as being on the Autistic spectrum as well as diagnosed with Dissociative Identity Disorder. i hope we establish a long-term, healthy friendship!

[Dolores de Barriga]

Re: Hi from a retarded kid.

To the anthropologist, I'm not going to bother writing a long response as talking to this crowd would be like casting my pearls before swine, but I would simply point you to the book of Romans, and that is all I will say about that.

Thank you for your advice. However, the letter to Romans is quite long; could you possibly be more specific and point me to a particular chapter and verse of it?

Some of the main points in this letter seem to be:

1) Paul's hate towards homosexuality (Romans 1:26-27) for which people deserve to die (Romans 1:32).

2) Paul's belief that God weighs more heavily the good and bad deeds of Jews than of non-Jews (Romans 2:9-10).

3) Paul's views on circumcision, which seem to be a bit complicated (Romans 2:25-29, 3:1-2, 30-31, 4:9-12).

4) Paul's view that baptism and faith in God, not good deeds, are what guarantee eternal life (Romans 6:1-23, 8:1-2); I guess that means that good people do go to Hell.

5) Prohibition of divorce (Romans 7:2-3), which is the most commonly broken of all God's commandments, by Christians of all denominations.

6) A convoluted discussion about sin (Romans 7:1-25) - I admit that I had to consult a few other translations besides KJV because I have no idea where Paul is coming from nor going to with all this. He seems to believe that non-Jews have no understanding what is good and what is sin; the Jewish law defines what sin is, but also creates temptation to sin; therefore, all non-Jews are sort of savages who live happily without any morals whatsoever. An interesting view, albeit a bit, uh, naive and extremely ethnocentric from an anthropological point of view.

7) The idea of predestination (Romans 8:29-30), which means that God hates some people since the moment of their conception (Romans 9:10-13). Of course, God is God, so He has the right to hate whomever He wants, and we have no right to judge Him (Romans 9:14-15, 18).

8) Paul defends his position as the apostle of the gentiles (Romans 11:13).

9) Paul asks Christians to love each other (Romans 12:10), and also to be as nice as possible to non-Christians (Romans 12:18).

10) Paul asks to obey secular laws (Romans 13:1-8). Therefore, it seems that people who fought for civil rights and such are going to Hell, because they disagreed with and fought against laws which they saw as unjust - but Paul says, that all powers come from God (Romans 13:1) - I guess that includes people like Hitler, Stalin, Franco, and Pinochet, too.

11) Paul believes that Christians should be vegetarians (Romans 14:21).

Surprisingly, Paul does not use this particular letter to express his hate towards women and smart people - the two things which he does so explicitly in letters to Corinthians.

I'm still not sure, though, how does this letter relate to the question I have asked you?

It does seem like this site's mission is to turn people, at least any normal person with human decency, away from God.

I'm afraid I do not understand. Are you suggesting that sharing the Word of God is somehow bad or something?

It's not gonna happen here. And yes I've read the Bible many times, all of it, OT included.

Did you read it with open mind, though - allowing you to overcome the biases induced by your parents/teachers/pastors?

[LolitaInbred]

Re: Hi from a retarded kid.

To the anthropologist, I'm not going to bother writing a long response as talking to this crowd would be like casting my pearls before swine, but I would simply point you to the book of Romans, and that is all I will say about that.


It does seem like this site's mission is to turn people, at least any normal person with human decency, away from God. It's not gonna happen here. And yes I've read the Bible many times, all of it, OT included.

[Basilissa]

Re: Hi from a retarded kid.

My belief about God comes from the Bible, I just don't see it the way these people see it. These people never talk about the mercy and grace of God as written about in both Testaments, but particularly the New Testament, but rather they focus on the Law. We are in the New Testament dispensation. A lot of the OT was meant to be taken as metaphor *braces for the stones that will be thrown her way*.

Most of this has already been answered, but I'm particularly drawn to the bit about the mercy of God. Since you seem to have some weird aversion towards the OT (I guess you have forgotten to read Matthew 5:17), I'll cite just from the NT for ya, sweetie.

Matthew 10:34-35
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Luke 12:51-53
51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.
53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

This is just a small selection of NT verses about God's wrath. What was that that you were saying about His mercy, again...?

[Dolores de Barriga]

Re: Hi from a retarded kid.

My belief about God comes from the Bible, I just don't see it the way these people see it. These people never talk about the mercy and grace of God as written about in both Testaments, but particularly the New Testament, but rather they focus on the Law. We are in the New Testament dispensation. A lot of the OT was meant to be taken as metaphor *braces for the stones that will be thrown her way*.

Oh, I will not throw stones at you - you see, I used to be like you. I believed what the priests (I grew up in Catholic faith) were saying about God's love. However, before Confirmation, I've decided to read the Bible - all of it, not just these few carefully picked verses they repeat during the Mass. Then I realized that God of both Testaments is cruel and merciless. He wanted his followers to kill heathens then and He seemingly enjoyed the slaughter of His enemies ever since. Just look at all of the religious wars and oppression of people done in His name. No other god has ever claimed more human sacrifices than the Christian God.

God of the Bible apparently enjoys all of that slaughter. Reading the Bible and studying the history of religions have shaken my own faith; sometimes I wonder if God is even real, and if He is, is He even worthy of our worship?

What I admire the most about this lovely congregation, is that they know how cruel God of the Bible is, and yet find Him worthy of their worship. I do hope that studying their faith will help me regain my own.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Hi

No, freedom of speech is for everywhere and everyone. I can say anything

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Hi from a retarded kid.

Hi, the name's John Hariyoki, I'm Japanese

I don't go to any church, and hate god

I like going to strip clubs and seeing those beautiful round *** inappropriate language ***

I like pie

yee

初めに言があった。言は神と共にあった。言は神であった。この言は初めに神と共にあった。すべてのものは、 これによってできた。できたもののうち、一つとしてこれによらないものはなかった。 この言に命があった。そしてこの命は人の光であった。 光はやみの中に輝いている。そして、やみはこれに勝たなかった。

ここにひとりの人があって、神からつかわされていた。その名をヨハネと言った。この人はあかしのためにきた 。光についてあかしをし、彼によってすべての人が信じるためである。彼は光ではなく、ただ、光についてあか しをするためにきたのである すべての人を照すまことの光があって、世にきた。彼は世にいた。そして、世は彼によってできたのであるが、 世は彼を知らずにいた。

彼は自分のところにきたのに、自分の民は彼を受けいれなかった。 しかし、彼を受けいれた者、すなわち、その名を信じた人々には、彼は神の子となる力を与えたの である。
それらの人は、血すじによらず、肉の欲によらず、また、人の欲にもよらず、ただ神によって生れ たのである。

そして言は肉体となり、わたしたちのうちに宿った。わたしたちはその栄光を見た。それは父のひとり子として の栄光であって、めぐみとまこととに満ちていた。
ヨハネは彼についてあかしをし、叫んで言った、「『わたしのあとに来るかたは、わたしよりもすぐれたかたで ある。わたしよりも先におられたからである』とわたしが言ったのは、この人のことである」。わたしたちすべ ての者は、その満ち満ちているものの中から受けて、めぐみにめぐみを加えられた。

律法はモーセをとおして与えられ、めぐみとまこととは、イエス・キリストをとおしてきたのである。神を見た 者はまだひとりもいない。ただ父のふところにいるひとり子なる神だけが、神をあらわしたのであ る。

さて、ユダヤ人たちが、エルサレムから祭司たちやレビ人たちをヨハネのもとにつかわして、「あなたはどなた ですか」と問わせたが、その時ヨハネが立てたあかしは、こうであった。

[Didymus Much]

Re: Hi from a retarded kid.

I know more about the Bible than you think, I'm just not going to waste my time debating Scripture with the likes of you. No, I'm just going to troll you instead.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29:

"In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4]..."

Let's see: sowing discord? Not gonna happen. Starting arguments? You're wrong, they're right, no argument possible. Upsetting people? Psalm 119:165. Posting BS? Will be quickly removed. Provoke readers into an emotional response? See Psalm 119:165 again. Disrupting "normal on-topic discussion"? Welcome to .

Good luck!

[Roland]

Re: Hi from a retarded kid.

My belief about God comes from the Bible.

Somehow I doubt that but I don´t really care. I´m not persuading you to be a Christian.

I just don't see it the way these people see it. These people never talk about the mercy and grace of God as written about in both Testaments, but particularly the New Testament, but rather they focus on the Law. We are in the New Testament dispensation. A lot of the OT was meant to be taken as metaphor

That might work with the FSM but Jesus seems somewhat more strict in His teachings.

*braces for the stones that will be thrown her way*.

As per Leviticus 24:16 And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well as the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the LORD, shall be put to death.

I´m sorry but it doesn´t seem Christians who won´t follow the Bible will get an easy pass.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Hi from a retarded kid.

My belief about God comes from the Bible, I just don't see it the way these people see it. These people never talk about the mercy and grace of God as written about in both Testaments, but particularly the New Testament, but rather they focus on the Law. We are in the New Testament dispensation. A lot of the OT was meant to be taken as metaphor *braces for the stones that will be thrown her way*.

Asking questions for clarification for the claims you make isn't throwing stones, dear. It's simply a means by which one can determine if there is any credibility to your statements. Thus far, you have provided none. Please don't confuse your inability to support your beliefs with persecution.

Moving on...

What's wrong with following the first, oh say, 2/3 of the Holy Word of God? What's wrong with recognizing the LORD of the New Testament is the very same LORD of the Old Testament? What's wrong with respecting Jesus' very own mission statement (Matthew 5:17)? Can you please show us from where in the Holy Bible you get the idea that "a lot of the Old Testament was meant to be taken as a metaphor"? I'd like to know if I'm worshiping the Lord incorrectly, as I would hate to offend Him. I would also like to know how you have come to understand the Real Gospel Message which has apparently, according to your argument, been completely lost by 2000 years of history, only to be uncovered by you, an unknown Christian whose unfamiliarity with what is actually written in the Holy Bible is painfully obvious to those who are familiar with it.