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  • Sparkie
    Unsaved trash, obese scottish mongrel
    • Apr 2015
    • 6

    #1

    Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race?

    I have a genuine question, I do not mean this as satirical or sarcasm but is there any chance of me getting into heaven by the things I am reading in this forum.
    Let me explain a little bit about myself. I am a British person who is mixed race. My mother being born in South Africa while my Father is English.
    I have always been raised Church of England and I have always tried to be very faithful to the bible and when I have failed I have prayed for my sins and repented.
    I cannot help it I was born mixed race so it hardly seems fair that I've been a good Christian but I would be refused to Heaven because of my skin.
    Ezra 10:3 Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law.
  • Naomi Ruth Lamb
    True Christian™
    True Christian™
    • Nov 2013
    • 999

    #2
    Re: Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race?

    Did you read the instructions for this forum?

    "Here is where you introduce yourself. Tell us what church you go to and what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus."

    When you've complied with those simple words, perhaps someone will tell you whether your soul is doomed for eternal hellfire.

    In welcome,
    NRL
    1 Samuel 8:13 "And he will take your daughters to be confectionaries, and to be cookes, and to be bakers."
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    • Sparkie
      Unsaved trash, obese scottish mongrel
      • Apr 2015
      • 6

      #3
      Re: Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race?

      My apologies, my name is Akima or "Kim" for short. My church is the Diocese of St Albans and my favourite bible verse is:
      Deuteronomy 31:6
      Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you."
      Ezra 10:3 Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law.

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      • James Hutchins
        True Christian™
        Just a Regular Nice Guy
         
        • Jun 2009
        • 29453

        #4
        Re: Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race?

        Where you are born does not matter. From whom your were does.
        If your father lay with a Hamite, then you are impure and cannot got to Heaven. Do not fret, most people do not. However, that does not preclude the need to praise God. How devoted you are to Him, even if you are a female, a beast or a darkie, defines the level of suffering you will have to endure for all of eternity.
        Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
        Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
        Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
        Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
        Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
        Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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        • Sparkie
          Unsaved trash, obese scottish mongrel
          • Apr 2015
          • 6

          #5
          Re: Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race?

          But yet it is not my fault for being born mixed race? (Please do not call me a "darkie" that is an offensive outdated term that needs to be forgotten) I believe I am a good Christian, I go to church, I pray, I repent when I have done wrongdoing. Why should the actions of my father cause me to suffer in Hell? I will admit I am young so it may come across as inexperienced and naive which I probably am. I cannot control my skin colour no more I can control where I was born, so why would this affect me going to Heaven?
          Ezra 10:3 Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law.

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          • Mary Etheldreda
            Gushing for Jesus
             
            • Sep 2011
            • 23775

            #6
            Re: Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race?

            Originally posted by Sparkie View Post
            But yet it is not my fault for being born mixed race? (Please do not call me a "darkie" that is an offensive outdated term that needs to be forgotten) I believe I am a good Christian, I go to church, I pray, I repent when I have done wrongdoing. Why should the actions of my father cause me to suffer in Hell? I will admit I am young so it may come across as inexperienced and naive which I probably am. I cannot control my skin colour no more I can control where I was born, so why would this affect me going to Heaven?
            Hi Kim, and welcome to our friendly forums! If I might suggest, don't get uppity with your betters. Mr. Hutchins here is only helping you. He's a busy man, and so his time is valuable. You would do well to respect his contribution.

            Please consider we don't make the rules. We only learn them, praise them, glorify them, follow them, and share them with others! I hope you'll join us!

            The LORD is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty,
            visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.
            Numbers 14:18

            Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God,
            visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me
            Deuteronomy 5:9
            Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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            • James Hutchins
              True Christian™
              Just a Regular Nice Guy
               
              • Jun 2009
              • 29453

              #7
              Re: Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race?

              Originally posted by Sparkie View Post
              But yet it is not my fault for being born mixed race? (Please do not call me a "darkie" that is an offensive outdated term that needs to be forgotten) I believe I am a good Christian, I go to church, I pray, I repent when I have done wrongdoing. Why should the actions of my father cause me to suffer in Hell? I will admit I am young so it may come across as inexperienced and naive which I probably am. I cannot control my skin colour no more I can control where I was born, so why would this affect me going to Heaven?
              No, it probably is not your fault. You are paying the price for your parents hatred of Jesus and mandingo fornication like animals. Just like a retard or cripple has to pay the price of the sins of the parent.
              Give unto Jesus and He will (if He is inclined) minimize your suffering in Hell. However, you claim to still commit wrongdoing. God sees through these 'six sinner days' and does not accept your shame. While as a nigra (see, I am reflecting your request) you probably cannot help your failures. It is simply how you people are.
              Repenting is a catlick statement. Catholickers are not Christians.
              Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
              Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
              Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
              Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
              Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
              Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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              • Sparkie
                Unsaved trash, obese scottish mongrel
                • Apr 2015
                • 6

                #8
                Re: Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race?

                Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
                Hi Kim, and welcome to our friendly forums! If I might suggest, don't get uppity with your betters. Mr. Hutchins here is only helping you. He's a busy man, and so his time is valuable. You would do well to respect his contribution.

                Please consider we don't make the rules. We only learn them, praise them, glorify them, follow them, and share them with others! I hope you'll join us!

                The LORD is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty,
                visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.
                Numbers 14:18

                Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God,
                visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me
                Deuteronomy 5:9
                I wasn't getting uppity...I admitted I was inexperienced and naive and I needed clarification and guidance. Nowhere in the Bible does it state Jesus' appearance until after his resurrection. Who is to say that Jesus was not a man with colour that isn't white?
                It was a genuine question, why would things out of my control stop me going to Heaven? If God is preferential to white folk then why not make the entire human race white?
                Ezra 10:3 Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law.

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                • Naomi Ruth Lamb
                  True Christian™
                  True Christian™
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 999

                  #9
                  Re: Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race?

                  Originally posted by Sparkie View Post
                  My apologies, my name is Akima or "Kim" for short. My church is the Diocese of St Albans and my favourite bible verse is:
                  Deuteronomy 31:6
                  Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you."
                  No need for apologies. Sorry to hear you're headed for damnation.

                  In Christian Love,
                  NRL
                  1 Samuel 8:13 "And he will take your daughters to be confectionaries, and to be cookes, and to be bakers."
                  Naomi Ruth Lamb, Proprietress:
                  Naomi's Moist Pie - Unsaved Unwelcome!
                  Locations in 50 States and Canada
                  !Voted Best Pie in Freehold!
                  Once you've tasted Naomi's pie, you'll crave it again and again and again and again.
                  Baptist pastors always receive a 50% discount.

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                  • Alvin Moss
                    Serving Jesus
                    True Christian™
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 4468

                    #10
                    Re: Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race?

                    Originally posted by Sparkie View Post
                    My apologies, my name is Akima or "Kim" for short. My church is the Diocese of St Albans and my favourite bible verse is:
                    Deuteronomy 31:6
                    Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you."

                    You are the second person this evening to appear here and quote from a false bible.
                    God judgeth the righteous, And God is angry with the wicked every day- Psalm 7:11

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                    • James Hutchins
                      True Christian™
                      Just a Regular Nice Guy
                       
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 29453

                      #11
                      Re: Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race?

                      Originally posted by Sparkie View Post
                      I wasn't getting uppity...I admitted I was inexperienced and naive and I needed clarification and guidance. Nowhere in the Bible does it state Jesus' appearance until after his resurrection. Who is to say that Jesus was not a man with colour that isn't white?
                      It was a genuine question, why would things out of my control stop me going to Heaven? If God is preferential to white folk then why not make the entire human race white?
                      Friend, borrow a Christian Bible and read about Hamites.

                      Genesis 9:18-27

                      18 And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan.
                      19 These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.
                      20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
                      21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
                      22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
                      23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
                      24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
                      25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
                      26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
                      27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
                      Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                      Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                      Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                      Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                      Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                      Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                      • Sparkie
                        Unsaved trash, obese scottish mongrel
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 6

                        #12
                        Re: Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race?

                        I understand that I'm already going to Hell because I'm mixed but my question still wasn't answered. If God is preferential to white people why not create the whole human race white? If God loves me and I him I still do not see why I should not be allowed to Heaven and as for being Catholic, I love and worship God so I do not see why that would change how He feels about Catholics. There are many branches of Christianity, no one can prove which is the correct path to take as we all believe we are right.
                        Ezra 10:3 Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law.

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                        • Mary Etheldreda
                          Gushing for Jesus
                           
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 23775

                          #13
                          Re: Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race?

                          Originally posted by Sparkie View Post
                          I wasn't getting uppity...
                          You are again.

                          Originally posted by Sparkie View Post
                          I admitted I was inexperienced and naive and I needed clarification and guidance. Nowhere in the Bible does it state Jesus' appearance until after his resurrection. Who is to say that Jesus was not a man with colour that isn't white?
                          We have Proof that Jesus is white.

                          Originally posted by Sparkie View Post
                          It was a genuine question, why would things out of my control stop me going to Heaven? If God is preferential to white folk then why not make the entire human race white?
                          God is preferential to those who fear and obey Him (Ecclesiastes 12:13). He considers those who love Him (John 14:15), and will dismiss those who fail to love Him (James 2:10). God is preferential to those He calls according to His Glory (Romans 8:29), and your demanding Him to justify Himself to you is as insolent and arrogant as a toddler demanding his mother to justify why she expects him to eat his vegetables. Where's your respect for Christ? He suffered a terrible weekend for the Redemption of Mankind, and this is how you repay Him? By demanding He answer Himself to you? Demanding He satisfy your sense of moral code?

                          The nerve of you people.
                          Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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                          • Sparkie
                            Unsaved trash, obese scottish mongrel
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 6

                            #14
                            Re: Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race?

                            That is not proof, that is speculation. As I said earlier, there is no description of Jesus in the Bible in his earthly form.

                            Regardless of his skin colour, what he accomplished for us by dying for his sins, surely his skin colour does not matter?
                            Last edited by Mary Etheldreda; 04-11-2015, 01:52 AM. Reason: Fixed the quoting, you're welcome
                            Ezra 10:3 Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law.

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                            • Didymus Much
                              Unsaved trash, Arrogant Atheist Dick
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 14079

                              #15
                              Re: Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race?

                              Originally posted by Sparkie View Post
                              ...he accomplished for us by dying for his sins...
                              I hope that was a typo, otherwise you really aren't getting this "Christianity" stuff.

                              Yeah, an immortal guy "died" (for two and a half-ish days, then He got better) to pay the price (to Himself) for the sins we commit (which are only sins because He says they are), so we owe Him blind obedience and eternal praise.

                              Seems legit.

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