I'm not going to flame...

[Shockedbyy'all]

Hi Guys

I can see you are all passionate about your beliefs here and I hope not to cause offence but after reading a quite a few threads here I just had to ask a few questions.

Do you all live in fear of the bible? If so why? Is that what God wants?

I have learnt that religion was created for controlling the populous and was created by men for political reasons. Just look through Roman Catholic history to see what I mean.

If God really did exist, do you think he would want to rule his children with an iron fist, promising eternal damnation because you did not fully follow the rules of a book created by men?

Kind Regards

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: I'm not going to flame...

Hi Guys

I can see you are all passionate about your beliefs here and I hope not to cause offence but after reading a quite a few threads here I just had to ask a few questions.

Do you all live in fear of the bible? If so why? Is that what God wants?

I have learnt that religion was created for controlling the populous and was created by men for political reasons. Just look through Roman Catholic history to see what I mean.

If God really did exist, do you think he would want to rule his children with an iron fist, promising eternal damnation because you did not fully follow the rules of a book created by men?

Kind Regards

Greetings and welcome to our friendly forum!

Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

Catholics are not Christians because they worship Mary.

Exodus 20:3-6Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

Would any sane person want to go to Hell?

Psalm 9:17 "The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God."
Mark 9:43 "And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched"

As a Christian it is about obeying God: not understanding.

2nd Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"
Deuteronomy 4:2 "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you."
Revelation 22:18-19 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
Psalm 12:6-7 "The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever."

Best wishes, I hope you enjoy our humble corner of the Inter Nets.

YIC

[Shockedbyy'all]

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Not able to edit my post so am replying to my message.

I received a welcome email after registering and part of the email said, "We ask that you post respectfully and adhere to proper American grammar, spelling, and punctuation rules, as Jesus demands."

Can someone tell me if this rule is in the bible also?

[Dr Laurence Niles]

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Not able to edit my post so am replying to my message.

I received a welcome email after registering and part of the email said, "We ask that you post respectfully and adhere to proper American grammar, spelling, and punctuation rules, as Jesus demands."

Can someone tell me if this rule is in the bible also?

It would be impossible to retrospectively change the way the Bible was written and it would offend Jesus.

Deuteronomy 4:2 "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you."

What church do you go to, what is your favourite Bible(KJV1611) verse and when did you start your walk with Jesus?

YIC

[Roland]

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[James Hutchins]

Re: I'm not going to flame...

Hi Guys

I can see you are all passionate about your beliefs here and I hope not to cause offence but after reading a quite a few threads here I just had to ask a few questions.

Do you all live in fear of the bible? If so why? Is that what God wants?

I have learnt that religion was created for controlling the populous and was created by men for political reasons. Just look through Roman Catholic history to see what I mean.

If God really did exist, do you think he would want to rule his children with an iron fist, promising eternal damnation because you did not fully follow the rules of a book created by men?

Kind Regards

Welcome friend. Of course no intelligent person is afraid of the Bible. Nor is any True Christin(tm) afraid of God. What God wants and expects is just that. We, as His children, have no say in the matter. Why would that be frightening?

[Shockedbyy'all]

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Hi Dr Niles

I appreciate your reply.

I'm not very good at explaining myself sometimes but my point is this.. why do you fear the words from a book that was created by men to control a populous?

Also where does it say in the Bible that Jesus demands that we 'post respectfully and adhere to proper American grammar, spelling, and punctuation rules'?

You know that America isn't mentioned in the Bible so where did that statement originate?

Kind Regards

[James Hutchins]

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Hi Dr Niles

I appreciate your reply.

I'm not very good at explaining myself sometimes but my point is this.. why do you fear the words from a book that was created by men to control a populous?

Also where does it say in the Bible that Jesus demands that we 'post respectfully and adhere to proper American grammar, spelling, and punctuation rules'?

You know that America isn't mentioned in the Bible so where did that statement originate?

Kind Regards

Have you read the Bible?
Isaiah 29:14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

John 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
John 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.

John 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
John 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

1st Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1st Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1st Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1st Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1st Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1st Corinthians 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1st Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
1st Corinthians 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
1st Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1st Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1st Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1st Corinthians 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1st Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1st Corinthians 3:20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

Jude 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Jude 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
Jude 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

[Shockedbyy'all]

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Also..as quick as I joined is as quick as I leave

I'm reading through some posts and I can see I'm on totally different wave length here so I wish you all happiness and please spread the peace.

All the best,

[Dr Laurence Niles]

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Also..as quick as I joined is as quick as I leave

I'm reading through some posts and I can see I'm on totally different wave length here so I wish you all happiness and please spread the peace.

All the best,

We follow the Bible(KJV1611) to the letter.

How is that unChristian?

YIC

[Didymus Much]

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...Do you all live in fear of the bible? If so why? Is that what God wants?...

Fun game: find an online Bible site that lets you do word searches (I usually use kingjbible.com) and see how often these phrases turn up: "love God", "respect God", and "fear God". The results should tell you something.

...I have learnt that religion was created for controlling the populous...

"Populous" is an adjective, not a noun. I think you meant "populace".

...If God really did exist, do you think he would want to rule his children with an iron fist, promising eternal damnation because you did not fully follow the rules of a book created by men?...

If God really existed, why would He let His rulebook be written by men?

[Mike Miller]

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Also..as quick as I joined is as quick as I leave

I'm reading through some posts and I can see I'm on totally different wave length here so I wish you all happiness and please spread the peace.

All the best,

Revelation 21:8 --- "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."

[James Hutchins]

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Also..as quick as I joined is as quick as I leave

I'm reading through some posts and I can see I'm on totally different wave length here so I wish you all happiness and please spread the peace.

All the best,

Wave lengths? Friend, this not a Crosley radio set. What 'wave lengths' are you talking about? Are you one of those northern California hippies?

[WickedWitch]

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Hi Guys

Hi!

Also..as quick as I joined is as quick as I leave

Bye!

[Witch Hammer]

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Also..as quick as I joined is as quick as I leave

I'm reading through some posts and I can see I'm on totally different wave length here so I wish you all happiness and please spread the peace.

All the best,

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