[Flyboy321]

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My Church bio can be found HERE.

Are you really a pilot?

Thanks

Yes I am

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Ha ha! I only googled it, hadn't heard of it before.

Are you really a pastor?

My Church bio can be found HERE.

Are you really a pilot?

[Flyboy321]

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Another example of your hateful comments against the one TRUE God. How can you live with yourself?

Ha ha! I only googled it, hadn't heard of it before.

Are you really a pastor?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Ha ha! I had to google FSM! Flying Spaghetti Monster, cool

Another example of your hateful comments against the one TRUE God. How can you live with yourself?

Deuteronomy 13:6-10
If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die.

[Flyboy321]

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Ha ha! I had to google FSM! Flying Spaghetti Monster, cool

[Flyboy321]

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That is what all God haters say if they survive and are brought to trial.

How can you possibly say that you'll never fly your plane into a mountain? You already said you'll never believe in God.

Because of Gods Indeterminable Grace, planes are capable of flying. Consider what might happen if He changes His mind with you at the controls. You are flirting withe the Devil, friend,

I didn't say never, I said I don't

I don't think I need a belief in God to stop me flying into mountains!

[Roland]

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Because of Gods Indeterminable Grace, planes are capable of flying. Consider what might happen if He changes His mind with you at the controls.

I am sure that is the doing of the FSM (see picture). The FSM might be indifferent sometimes, an ass hole even, but I don´t think crashing a plane would be a deliberate act by the FSM. Perhaps he was sleeping off a hangover on the 24th of march?

[Flyboy321]

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Well that was an in-depth answer! Thanks for that.

There is something I don't understand though, if God would rather I 'get saved' as you put it, surely he doesn't want me to go to hell. But according to what we have been talking about, I AM hellbound, in accordance with god's intention, seeing as how God knew I would reject him which would appear to be his intention, so how is it he wants me to be saved?

Anyway this is turning into a debate, I'm not here to do that, I'm here to learn about you guys and what you believe.

Ha ha! No I didn't read a bible, sorry to disappoint, though I do have a copy of the KJV on my ipad

[James Hutchins]

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But my dear sir, I don't hate others! I'm not a hateful person!

I have no intention on hurting anyone

That is what all God haters say if they survive and are brought to trial.

How can you possibly say that you'll never fly your plane into a mountain? You already said you'll never believe in God.

Because of Gods Indeterminable Grace, planes are capable of flying. Consider what might happen if He changes His mind with you at the controls. You are flirting withe the Devil, friend,

[Samuel Levenson]

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But sir surely there were also Christans and innocent children there also. Must God punish the innocent to smite those he hates?

Friend, this is the most sense you've spoken in days. The simple answer is yes. If God wants to slaughter every last living thing on the planet, he is able to. He flooded the entire world expect for one man and his small family. He told the Israelites to destroy the Amalekites, every man, woman, and child: 1 Samuel 15:3- Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. In fact, King Saul spared Agag, the Amalekite king, so the prophet Samuel personally hacked Agag to pieces while God watched: 1 Samuel 15:33- And Samuel said, As the sword hath made women childless, so shall thy mother be childless among women. And Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before the LORD in Gilgal. He completely annihilated Sodom and Gomorrah with the Biblical equivalent of a nuclear bomb and turned Lot's wife into salt for second guessing him! Besides the obvious ability of God to entirely destroy sinners on a whim, what makes you think there was a single True Christian™ in New Orleans? If God can command the winds and waves, don't you think he can inspire a True Christian™ to take a tropical vacation to Hawaii in late August 2005?

Well if they weren't supposidly promiscuous, shiftless and thriving, I'd wager you'd have another reason to indict them.

Watch it now. I don't indict them- God does. Genesis 9:25 And he said: Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

With regard to everything that happens is God's intention, Would that include me going to hell?

I believe the Holy Spirit is allowing you to see the truth because you're absolutely right! God knew that you were going to be a wretched sinner. He knew that you would reject his offer of salvation and that you would suffer for eternity in Hell. And he created you anyway! Jeremiah 1:5- "Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee..." Proverbs 16:4- "The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil." Did you pick up a Bible while I wasn't looking?

[Flyboy321]

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Friend, don't you realize that by scraping the bottom of heaven and not Loving Jesus, at some point you will try to fly your plane, full of innocent babies, straight to Hell. Don't you realize not being a Christian makes you selfish?

Why do you hate others?

But my dear sir, I don't hate others! I'm not a hateful person!

I have no intention on hurting anyone

[Flyboy321]

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Of course. Do you think Hurricane Katrina would have hit New Orleans if there hadn't been so many gays there?

But sir surely there were also Christans and innocent children there also. Must God punish the innocent to smite those he hates?

and Do you think Ebola would have hit Africa if they weren't promiscuous, shiftless, and thieving? How else do you explain it, because it sure looks like divine judgement to me.

Well if they weren't supposidly promiscuous, shiftless and thriving, I'd wager you'd have another reason to indict them.

With regard to everything that happens is God's intention, Would that include me going to hell?

[James Hutchins]

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I'm not sure I the report for that was out but it's believes the guy who crashed in the Alps had depression, the full reasons are not clear.

I assume you're referring to me! I don't believe I have ever attacked a Christian!

Friend, don't you realize that by scraping the bottom of heaven and not Loving Jesus, at some point you will try to fly your plane, full of innocent babies, straight to Hell. Don't you realize not being a Christian makes you selfish?

Why do you hate others?

[Samuel Levenson]

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With respect I'd disagree that one must believe in a deity in order to be a good person. Also I don't think I actually claimed to be a good person

With respect, God doesn't give a damn what you think about Him, or about being a good person. You claimed you never attacked a Christian, as if that makes you any less of a sinful wretch. You're an awful, worthless sinner- lower than low. Until you admit that, and start on the Path of Salvation(tm) you're doomed to hellfire for all eternity.

[Flyboy321]

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What he really can't stand is someone who rejects his very existence while claiming to be a good person.....

With respect I'd disagree that one must believe in a deity in order to be a good person. Also I don't think I actually claimed to be a good person