[Back against wall]

Re: A view from the Left

What benefit results from my fingers being smitten? I get the neck reference, say if my carotid artery was severed I'd bleed out fairly quickly and stuff. So why bother with my fingers?

Hoping you can shed some light on this.

Halo Ms MitzaLizalor. I am also lost as to why Alex/Alexandera/Denis would do this, I don't get it. Perhaps it's a form of Necrophilia?

P.S.

Love the bird. Below is an image of a Toaster Oven

[Alex Osterman]

Re: A view from the Left

To those insisting that biological sex is not socially constructed, did you even read the article I linked? Here's an even better one.

There are 5 specific measures of biological sex according to modern medical science.

Chromosomes (men = XY, women = XX)
Genitalia (men = penis, women = vulva and vagina)
Gonads (men = testes, women = ovaries)
Hormones (men = high testosterone, low estrogen, low progesterone; women = high estrogen, high progesterone, low testosterone)
Secondary Sex Characteristics (men = large amounts of dark, thick, coarse body hair, noticeable facial hair, low waist:hip ratio, no noticeable breast development, rough skin; women = fine, light colored body hair, no noticeable facial hair, high waist:hip ratio, noticeable breast development, smooth skin)

The thing is, in real life, very few people actually match up with all five categories. There are, of course, genetic differences that account for a decent percentage of human births like XXY, XXX, XO, and XYY (apx 1:500 births though it could easily be more than that since we don’t do genetic testing for all people and even at that ratio if there are over 6 billion people in the world 1:500 means there are a whole lot of genetically intersex people out there) but it goes far beyond that. There are people out there who have XX chromosomes, a vulva and vagina, ovaries, male secondary sex characteristics and male hormones patterns. There are people out there who have XY chromosomes, a penis, testes, female secondary sex characteristics and female hormone patterns. There are even people out there with XY chromosomes, testes, a vulva, a vagina, female secondary sex characteristics, and male hormone patterns and there are even people with BOTH male and female secondary sex characteristics at the same time and people with BOTH male and female hormone patterns at the same time regardless of their genes, gonads, and genitalia

And the thing is those people, the people with the “opposite” and/or “blended” secondary sex characteristics and “opposite” and/or “blended” hormone patterns are technically intersex assuming that the two sex system is absolutely true all the time. If there are only two sexes and there can only ever be two sexes and that’s it then all those hairy women and all those men with breasts and all those men with no noticeable body or facial hair and all those women with massive muscles and all that testosterone don’t actually count as “real” women/men and they are treated by the medical industrial complex and society alike as freaks, as anomalies, or as though they don’t actually exist because their existence breaks up the binary. In order for the binary to exist, to be real, all people everywhere must necessarily match up on all 5 markers of sex all the time. That’s not what happens in real life. In real life literally millions of people have bodies that are in some way contrary to the biological concept of the two sex system. Millions.

Millions.

That's not even a published article, just a reply on Tumblr to some cis-het shitlord. Some of the best scholarship and debate right now is happening in marginalized spaces.

You are obviously clinging to the idea of sex and gender (yes, I know they are two different things, and yes, they are both socially constructed!) as biologically real because without these concepts, your misogyny, homophobia, biphobia, and transphobia would not have a leg to stand on. Let me guess, you believe in a biological basis for "race" as well, don't you?

I've been lead to believe that the lack of outrage and criticism from the academic left of the mooselimb practice of mutilating the genitals of women in the Middle East is because they are merely "social constructs" - or perhaps it's because of another favorite "social construct" of the academic left - "multiculturalism"?

Male circumcision is just as gruesome, but it is accepted and even celebrated in white cultures (and imposed on POC) while female circumcision is denounced as barbaric. Your white privilege at work.

Your belief in the "Islamic Golden Age" is beyond the pale as it has been debunked countless times. The mooselimb centuries long campaign of raping and pillaging plunged Persia and India into a Dark Age lasting centuries, and the disruption of trade and economic activity is one factor that plunged Europe into the Dark Ages - to say nothing about their destruction of countless libraries and centers of learning along the way because they didn't comply with their "sacred" Koran, or their enslavement of millions of Christian Europeans.

Of course Islamic cultures have engaged in violence. All patriarchal societies do so and have done so, because violence is the language of male power. My points are that 1) we cannot ignore the devastating effect of Christian white supremacy on cultural and scientific progress in the Islamic world, 2) we cannot ignore the role of Christian white supremacy in creating modern day Islamic "extremism," 3) white patriarchal Christianity is historically and today no less oppressive than patriarchal Islam, and 4) as an older Abrahamic tradition, Christianity played a fundamental role in the development of Islam, and many of the less progressive aspects of Islam originated in the Bible and Torah.

From a global perspective, Muslims are still oppressed by Christianity and whiteness, even in Muslim-ruled countries.

So, in the interest of promoting understanding, and given that (as I understand it) critical race and whiteness theory are not "binary", and given that Obama is half white and half black, how much "white privilege" does Obama have?

You must think I'm a freshman who's never heard of intersectionality before. Obama benefits from white privilege in spaces where he is perceived as partially white, just as he benefits from male privilege, straight privilege, cis privilege, able-bodied privilege, thin privilege, and upper class privilege. This is all basic stuff.

[Virginia Day Templeton]

Re: A view from the Left

You must think I'm a freshman who's never heard of intersectionality before. Obama benefits from white privilege in spaces where he is perceived as partially white, just as he benefits from male privilege, straight privilege, cis privilege, able-bodied privilege, thin privilege, and upper class privilege. This is all basic stuff.

Bongo is as straight as RuPaul.

[Back against wall]

Re: A view from the Left

This is all basic stuff.

Listen Denis. WTF is it you're here for? WTF are you trying to achieve? WTF gives you the impression that we want to know anything at all about toothpaste?

I have respect and tolerance for all traditions except patriarchal white Christianity, which I vow to destroy

Is this it? Is this what you think you are doing here? It's already been said, nobody cares. All you have achieved so far IMHO is to prove that you suffer from delusions of grandeur and self indulgence. You come across as narcissistic and you are irritatingly boring. I quite honestly believe you were looking for Dykes-r-Us and got lost.

Go back to the virtual school you came from (because I know you didn't graduate from Oberlin College in 2014) and study something plausible that will actually make a difference, because nothing that you have said so far does.
You're nothing but a ventriloquist doll with lefty brainwashing all the way up your anus making your lips move.

You must think I'm a freshman

No, just a Tosser

[Alvin Moss]

Re: A view from the Left

Sieg heil, Oberfuhrer Osterman.

I ran across this zany little game the other day called Stormfront or SJW. The object of the game is to look at quotes taken from the neo-nazi site Stormfront and ones taken from social justice warriors, then see if you can figure out which one is which.

Gosh darn it, but I never can seem to get the answers right when I play it, and I've inadvertently stumbled onto a whole heap of neo-nazi rhetoric in my day. So I was just wondering, what with you being a self-defined SJW and all, would you be so kind as to take a look at it and explain to me which quotes go where? Because that would be mighty white of ya!

Thanks in advance.

http://stormfrontorsjw.eu1.frbit.net/

I tried out that game, Brother. It was God's will that I fail. My guess was right only half the time. His will be done.

[Dolores de Barriga]

Re: A view from the Left

To those insisting that biological sex is not socially constructed, did you even read the article I linked?

Nope. I clicked on it and it was not a peer reviewed publication in a respectable academic journal. When I have time to read fiction, I prefer to read a good novel, not some crap on the internet.

Here's an even better one.

That's not even a published article, just a reply on Tumblr to some cis-het shitlord.

I have underlined the reason I have not read it.

Some of the best scholarship and debate right now is happening in marginalized spaces.

Oh, so you're defending the fact that there are no peer reviewed publications in respectable academic journals on this subject with a twist on the old "scientist in the ivory tower" stereotype? Clever, but I don't buy it.

You are obviously clinging to the idea of sex and gender (yes, I know they are two different things, and yes, they are both socially constructed!)

I can see sex in human bones nearly as clearly as I can see age, disease, and trauma. There is always some uncertainty in a few individuals due to the fact women who do physical work tend to have more masculine bones, and men who don't do any physical labor tend to have more feminine bones, but if the researchers I worked with had big money to do DNA, that would eliminate this uncertainty.

as biologically real because without these concepts, your misogyny, homophobia, biphobia, and transphobia would not have a leg to stand on.

I think your xenophobia makes you use big words which a non-native speaker of English like me cannot understand.

Let me guess, you believe in a biological basis for "race" as well, don't you?

Why should I? Based on existing scientific evidence, no human group has a monopoly on any allele of any gene, and the frequencies of different alleles vary in different degrees between different populations - in fact, genetic differences within a group are larger than differences between groups.

Male circumcision is just as gruesome, but it is accepted and even celebrated in white cultures (and imposed on POC) while female circumcision is denounced as barbaric. Your white privilege at work.

Female genital mutilation, which is the proper name for what you euphemistically call "female circumcision," is a process due to which women endure pain for the reminder of their lives. I've not heard of that happening too often after male circumcision.

Also - please refrain from suing acronyms that nobody but you can understand. What is "POC?"

Of course Islamic cultures have engaged in violence. All patriarchal societies do so and have done so, because violence is the language of male power. My points are that 1) we cannot ignore the devastating effect of Christian white supremacy on cultural and scientific progress in the Islamic world,

Oh, that one was funny.

1) If you want to go all cultural relativism, then there is no such thing as "cultural progress." You've just showed that you're a ethnocentric and racist cultural evolutionist.

2) What brought the scientific development of the Islamic world to a stop is not Christianity/white people, but the Muslim religion.

2) we cannot ignore the role of Christian white supremacy in creating modern day Islamic "extremism,"

I'd use the term "American imperialism," but our opinions aren't too far off on this one.

3) white patriarchal Christianity is historically and today no less oppressive than patriarchal Islam, and 4) as an older Abrahamic tradition, Christianity played a fundamental role in the development of Islam, and many of the less progressive aspects of Islam originated in the Bible and Torah.

Your point being...?

From a global perspective, Muslims are still oppressed by Christianity and whiteness, even in Muslim-ruled countries.

I'd say again, that it's the American imperialism which is seen by oppressive by many people of many colors - including those considered to be white.

You must think I'm a freshman

No. Based on my experience grading undergraduate students' exams, freshmen tend to have the ability to write clearly. Your writing is convoluted and filled with illegible jargon, which resembles writing of empty-headed juniors and seniors.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: A view from the Left

I have respect and tolerance for all traditions except patriarchal white Christianity, which I vow to destroy

Would that extend to Creflo Dollar?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsVjb4pCkhU

[Des]

Re: A view from the Left

Men cannot get ovarian cancer, ever. Oh, the oppression! Damn you, Patriarchy! Damn you for collectively deciding to give women ovaries with which to get cancer! Nature, as in biology, had nothing to do with it. Whah, whah, whahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Pathetic. I'm sure your daddy can still get a refund from that Cracker Jack 'college' and send you to a real one which will explain how biology is a part of nature, not society. And for the record, red and green are the same color. Keep that in mind the next time you drive your hybrid anywhere with traffic lights.

[BrotherLarry]

Re: A view from the Left

Hi Brother Osterman!

Wow, a whole bunch of what you said so far seems to come directly from the mouth of the evil one. The devil loves to spout nonsense in an attempt to sidetrack the purity and truth of Christ's simple message. I am unsure why you choose ten-dollar words when you could speak as our Savior did, without having to resort to logic and proof.

You see, being God's Son, He had no need to be logical. He did what He wanted and used His position in Heaven to bring those He loves home with Him someday. It's kind of like that kid in school everyone wants to be friends with. That kid is not about to let the geeks and nerds see the inner sanctum of his bedroom. Neither is the LORD going to open the gates of Heaven to sanctimonious and officious naysayers. He wants to play with those that WORSHIP and ADORE Him.

Have you fallen on your knees and sought His precious Face? Or are you depending on the "wisdom" of secular Satanists to influence your future - which, I am afraid, includes hell unless you repent.

Welcome to the friendliest forums on the Interwebs! Christ loves the repentant heart and cheerful tither. Glory!

COME, LORD JESUS!
BrotherLarry