[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Roman Catholic seeks salvation

Marx was straight. Hegel, Wilde, the rest? All straight.

You do know that drug pushers don't partake? I have no doubt that these commies where staright as no homer would have the nerve to put forwards such ridiculous notions.

Communism has literally nothing to do with intercourse of any kind, in any way. There are no euphemisms, no hidden agendas.

That's demonstably untrue. If there was no agenda would the gaywise have been able to force sodomariage on this nation?

The gaywise don't work hard and so literally depend on government handouts, Obamacare and all manner of socialisticalism.

The gays want EVERYONE to follow them in their anal antics (funded by our taxes) where everyone is equally subjugated in having same sex weddings.

I'm glad I got divorced so that I don't have to share the same legal status as a bunch of militant homererotically oriented lefties.

YIC

[SavedbyChrist]

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Just as long as you get to define "fair".

Healthcare and housing sound fair to me, but hey, we're not going force you to be happy.

Or anything.

Because communism is not, and has never been, about force.

[Back against wall]

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All we want is fairness for everyone.

Just as long as you get to define "fair".

Quoted for future generations.

[Didymus Much]

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...All we want is fairness for everyone.

Just as long as you get to define "fair".

[SavedbyChrist]

Re: Roman Catholic seeks salvation

Thank you, dear child! On the other hand, we could actually look at the very words of Karl Marx himself, here in American translation (Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right):

The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo.

This is in direct opposition of what we know is the True™ happiness in Jesus!

Oh thank God, someone willing to back up his arguments with evidence. Thank you Elmer.

"Communism" sounds like nothing more than a euphemism for homosexuality. This is nothing more than to rationalize the idea that everyone should take what he "needs" from the rectum of whomever he can catch.

Except people actually need food. How are you not getting this? Why is everything you disagree with gay? How do you survive in this world, I'm astounded.

Marx was straight. Hegel, Wilde, the rest? All straight.

All he wanted, and all we want, is for everyone to be able to survive in the world and live decent lives. By aboloshing capitalism, that can happen. That's what communists believe.

Communism has literally nothing to do with intercourse of any kind, in any way. There are no euphemisms, no hidden agendas.

All we want is fairness for everyone.

[Elmer G. White]

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I never said religion was a religion. I said above that it is an economic system.

An economic system that has never come close to actually existing. Dictators like Stalin and Mao ruined the name for us and gave us a bad reputation.

When I say "other faiths" I mean "different faiths." Maybe I should been more specific:

People who truly support the ideology that strives for a classless society that requires living in the economic system known as communism, hold no ill will against people of any faith. Individual communists can be and are of different religious backgrounds--by extension, they have no anger toward individuals whose beliefs differ from their own. Rather, they work together for the betterment of not only the only working class, but of everyone in general.

Communism is not a religion nor does it seek to interfere with or associate with religion. But Marx made sure to explain in his book that the communist ideology in fact favors the idea of free, unoppressed, religious practice.

Thank you, dear child! On the other hand, we could actually look at the very words of Karl Marx himself, here in American translation (Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right):

Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.

The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo.

Criticism has plucked the imaginary flowers on the chain not in order that man shall continue to bear that chain without fantasy or consolation, but so that he shall throw off the chain and pluck the living flower. The criticism of religion disillusions man, so that he will think, act, and fashion his reality like a man who has discarded his illusions and regained his senses, so that he will move around himself as his own true Sun. Religion is only the illusory Sun which revolves around man as long as he does not revolve around himself.

This is in direct opposition of what we know is the True™ happiness in Jesus!

James 5:11
Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Roman Catholic seeks salivation

"Communism" sounds like nothing more than a euphemism for homosexuality. This is nothing more than to rationalize the idea that everyone should take what he "needs" from the rectum of whomever he can catch.

[SavedbyChrist]

Re: Roman Catholic seeks salivation

Could you share with us some examples of successful adoption of communism? It has been around now for 150 years or so. Surely, someone has made it work somewhere. All we ever hear about is the unmitigated disasters.

The idea of communism has been around that long, sure.

But I can't give any good examples because, as I've repeatedly said, there aren't any. There aren't even any BAD examples of communism! It's all been falsely named dictatorships!

Everything people think of as communism is a lie. It's all been dictatorships and abuse of power from upper classes that don't want to give up their power for the good of the people.

A communist society has never existed, good nor bad. As long as social hierarchy and free markets exist, there is no communism.

[Alvin Moss]

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Could you share with us some examples of successful adoption of communism? It has been around now for 150 years or so. Surely, someone has made it work somewhere. All we ever hear about is the unmitigated disasters.

[SavedbyChrist]

Re: Roman Catholic seeks salvation

Do I understand correctly that you believe communism to be a religion? Many do, but it is a false religion. Why do you reckon it has never worked? It seems like every communist apologist I have ever heard of blames something along the lines of "we had the wrong people in charge". Who are the right people? Your religion seems a delicate thing.

I never said religion was a religion. I said above that it is an economic system.

An economic system that has never come close to actually existing. Dictators like Stalin and Mao ruined the name for us and gave us a bad reputation.

When I say "other faiths" I mean "different faiths." Maybe I should been more specific:

People who truly support the ideology that strives for a classless society that requires living in the economic system known as communism, hold no ill will against people of any faith. Individual communists can be and are of different religious backgrounds--by extension, they have no anger toward individuals whose beliefs differ from their own. Rather, they work together for the betterment of not only the only working class, but of everyone in general.

Communism is not a religion nor does it seek to interfere with or associate with religion. But Marx made sure to explain in his book that the communist ideology in fact favors the idea of free, unoppressed, religious practice.

[Alvin Moss]

Re: Roman Catholic seeks salvation

True communists hold nothing against people of other faiths.

Do I understand correctly that you believe communism to be a religion? Many do, but it is a false religion. Why do you reckon it has never worked? It seems like every communist apologist I have ever heard of blames something along the lines of "we had the wrong people in charge". Who are the right people? Your religion seems a delicate thing.

[Didymus Much]

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...There is to be a revolution soon but not too soon...

Will it be televised, this time? I totally missed the last one.

[SavedbyChrist]

Re: Roman Catholic seeks salvation

Dear child,

Here is an image from communism. The year is 1991. The name of the shop is Хлеб, which means 'bread'.

Nope! The USSR, nor China, were ever truly communist. Unfortunately, Marx's dream of a classless utopia has never been realized. What you're looking at it is a gross perversion that calls itself "communism." The original Revolution started with good intent, but by the 90s it was long into a dictatorship regime.

Communism has never existed, only false socialism under the wrong name.

[Elmer G. White]

Re: Roman Catholic seeks salvation

That's a capitalist thing. In a communist economy, there would be no need for credit cards or any form of money. Hundreds of problems stemming from monetary greed and financial poverty would be eliminated. Stealing would decrease dramatically, because there would be no need to steal.

A lot, but not all, of systemic oppressions would cease to exist because there would be no upper class to exploit and oppress the working class; there would be no class systems.

The main thing with communism is that everyone gives according to their ability, and takes according to their need.

So, let's say I'm really good at baking bread. Lots of people need and eat bread. In a capitalist society, as we have today, hunger doesn't matter when distributing bread. Money does. Someone who is not hungry can buy three loaves of bread, while someone with no money is left to go hungry. Even if I'm hungry for bread--which was made through my own labor--I have to pay for it, even if I do have an employee discount.

In a communist society, all three of us would get the bread we need; if I live home alone I might get one loaf, but someone with a family of four might two or three because they have more people to feed. Regardless, it's all fair, because all of us have enough bread to eat.

Dear child,

Here is an image from communism. The year is 1991. The name of the shop is Хлеб, which means 'bread'.



Of course, I fully admit that there are more important things in life.

John 6:51
I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

Still, the communist system failed to deliver either type of bread. Yet they repented and the USSR was replaced by the regime of Godly Mr. Putin, a friend of Jesus! If they could change, so can you, young Friend!




Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[SavedbyChrist]

Re: Roman Catholic seeks salvation

But what about the credit cards.

That's a capitalist thing. In a communist economy, there would be no need for credit cards or any form of money. Hundreds of problems stemming from monetary greed and financial poverty would be eliminated. Stealing would decrease dramatically, because there would be no need to steal.

A lot, but not all, of systemic oppressions would cease to exist because there would be no upper class to exploit and oppress the working class; there would be no class systems.

The main thing with communism is that everyone gives according to their ability, and takes according to their need.

So, let's say I'm really good at baking bread. Lots of people need and eat bread. In a capitalist society, as we have today, hunger doesn't matter when distributing bread. Money does. Someone who is not hungry can buy three loaves of bread, while someone with no money is left to go hungry. Even if I'm hungry for bread--which was made through my own labor--I have to pay for it, even if I do have an employee discount.

In a communist society, all three of us would get the bread we need; if I live home alone I might get one loaf, but someone with a family of four might two or three because they have more people to feed. Regardless, it's all fair, because all of us have enough bread to eat.