[Roberta]

Re: Peace

Have you ever heard one of those moslem muezzins screech out an adhan? I would almost rather listen to gangsta rap!

[JennyD]

Re: Peace

Lol honestly are you just making these up??? Pick up a quran and look up these verses.

I believe our good Brother in Christ Rev. Rodimer gave a web link as his source.

It sounds like you expect us to know which is a "true" Koran and which is "false", much like the trouble with the many "false" Bibles in circulation.

However, your claiming that a translation is poor isn't very helpful, since we can only assume by their actions that the terrorists prefer the more violent version.

I think you're trying to convince us that Islam is a peaceful religion and that we should be happy to see mosques all over our fair land, like in Europistan. Sorry, Invader, that won't fly here.

There will never be minarets in Freehold!

[Brother Daoud]

Re: Peace

"The only true faith in God's sight is Islam." (Surah 3:19)

Correction, the arabic word means submission, so when translated, "The only true faith in the sight of God, is submission to God" Christians would be included.

"Slay them wherever you find them...Idolatry is worse than carnage...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme." (Surah 2:190-)

What are horrible translation:
[2:190] You may fight in the cause of GOD against those who attack you, but do not aggress. GOD does not love the aggressors.
[2:191] You may kill those who wage war against you, and you may evict them whence they evicted you. Oppression is worse than murder. Do not fight them at the Sacred Masjid, unless they attack you therein. If they attack you, you may kill them. This is the just retribution for those disbelievers.
[2:192] If they refrain, You refrain, because GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.

"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)

Again the translation, it says dont take them to be your GAURDIAN, not friend. The word Alliul (gaurdian) is translated into friend because of a political dispute about who would be the first kalif.

"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)

AGAIN, dude the translations are terrible here is the more authentic one:
[8:36] Those who disbelieve spend their money to repel others from the way of GOD. They will spend it, then it will turn into sorrow and remorse for them. Ultimately, they will be defeated, and all disbelievers will be summoned to Hell.

"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given ...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)

This isnt even remotely correct, the arabic word floose (tribute/money) isnt mentioned at all here is the correct translation: [9:27] Ultimately, GOD redeems whomever He wills. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.

"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)

Lol honestly are you just making these up??? Pick up a quran and look up these verses.
Here is the REAL 9:121

[9:121] Nor do they incur any expense, small or large, nor do they cross any valley, without having the credit written down for them. GOD will surely reward them generously for their works.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Peace

Post these commands please

Here are a sampling from http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/koran.html

"The only true faith in God's sight is Islam." (Surah 3:19)

"Slay them wherever you find them...Idolatry is worse than carnage...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme." (Surah 2:190-)

"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)

"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)

"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given ...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)

"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)

[Brother Daoud]

Re: Peace

It sounds to me like you're some sort of "salad bar" Muslim. You pick and choose the verses you like, and ignore the commands to destroy the infidels.

Post these commands please

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Peace

That is a very good question, the Quran only premits self defense. Terrorists often times like to twist things for the evil propoganda, it happens all the time, people falsely attribute violence to God.

Not all muslims are like this, if you ever meet a muslim in real life, you will most likely see they are just as normal as you and I.

About angry, the Quran states to always give a nicer response. The Prophet frowned upon talking in a angry way.
"They are suppressors of anger, and pardoners of the people."-Quran

Remember dont judge the religon on people.

It sounds to me like you're some sort of "salad bar" Muslim. You pick and choose the verses you like, and ignore the commands to destroy the infidels.

[Brother Daoud]

Re: Peace

Here's something I'd like to know about your religion:

Why are you people so violent and angry all the time?

That is a very good question, the Quran only premits self defense. Terrorists often times like to twist things for the evil propoganda, it happens all the time, people falsely attribute violence to God.

Not all muslims are like this, if you ever meet a muslim in real life, you will most likely see they are just as normal as you and I.

About angry, the Quran states to always give a nicer response. The Prophet frowned upon talking in a angry way.
"They are suppressors of anger, and pardoners of the people."-Quran

Remember dont judge the religon on people.

[Bob4God]

Re: Peace

Here's something I'd like to know about your religion:

Why are you people so violent and angry all the time?

[Brother Daoud]

Re: Peace

So you want me to prove that the Quran speaks against the vatican belief, without quoting the book it self.

How on earth can I do that?


Where is the lie? Where is the satan, when you are never willing to listen to it?

How can you say its satanic, and its a lie, when you close your eyes and ears and your not willing to listen to it

[Brother Daoud]

Re: Peace

you remind me a great deal of an earlier Australien/Afghani moon worshipper we had the misfortune to tolerate a while back, by the name of dauodwa. He was even more deluded than you are, but then again he did eventually admit to being a liar and a hypocrite. How long before you do the same? Or are you the same person?

Prehaps if im allowed to I will show verses from the Quran, and if you think im lieing, you can look it up your self. Since your convinced im a wrong, and a liar, why dont you let me prove to you? Is the truth that hard to grasp?

[Brother Guy Bayard]

Re: Peace

you remind me a great deal of an earlier Australien/Afghani moon worshipper we had the misfortune to tolerate a while back, by the name of dauodwa. He was even more deluded than you are, but then again he did eventually admit to being a liar and a hypocrite. How long before you do the same? Or are you the same person?

[Brother Guy Bayard]

Re: Peace

And about the Vatican thats nothing more then a joke, the Quran is almost 100% against all teachings of the Vatican.

please don't make unfounded claims. please supply scripture and verse to support your claims. If however you begin to quote the Koran here you will be banned.
Good luck

[Brother Daoud]

Re: Peace

No you're not. What kind of a name is Daoud? If you're patriotic, why do you pray to the terrorists' false "god"?

It seems like you honestly think your religion is somehow acceptable, but, well, it's not. Try reading this educational tract. I hate to break it to you, but you're basically the victim of a massive scam pulled by the Vatican. Sorry about that.

There is only 1 God, and I pray to 1 God. I read that link you sent me, and it is littered with false information, the "moon god" in Arabic is not Allah, its ilah. And if you say that Allah is a false God then your denouncing your own faith, because when translated Allah means God, and in ALL the churches in the middle east, they use Allah, pick up an arabic bible you will see they use the word Allah, becauuse Allah = God in english.

And about the Vatican thats nothing more then a joke, the Quran is almost 100% against all teachings of the Vatican.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Peace

I will have you know I am an American Citizen, my family can be traced back to around the 1800s in America. I am just as white and as Patriotic as anyone here.

No you're not. What kind of a name is Daoud? If you're patriotic, why do you pray to the terrorists' false "god"?

It seems like you honestly think your religion is somehow acceptable, but, well, it's not. Try reading this educational tract. I hate to break it to you, but you're basically the victim of a massive scam pulled by the Vatican. Sorry about that.

[Brother Daoud]

Re: Peace

Our beliefs can be found HERE.

As a new poster, you should also take a look at THIS thread, which explains our Theological viewpoints in more detail. We are not a debate forum, and we do not tolerate terrorist scum on our Godly forum. If you have come here to accept Jesus as your personal Savior©, then you are welcome.

If you have come here to promote your moon cult, then you are NOT welcome. The Moohammad demon you worship (piss be upon him) is roasting in hell even now. Unless you want to join him there, then I urge you to ask Christ to wash your sins away with His blood.

I will have you know I am an American Citizen, my family can be traced back to around the 1800s in America. I am just as white and as Patriotic as anyone here.

Muslims dont worship Mohammad

Muhammad was no more than a messenger like the messengers before him. Should he die or get killed, would you turn back on your heels? Anyone who turns back on his heels, does not hurt GOD in the least. GOD rewards those who are appreciative.

and Muslims follow Jesus Christ, infact almost half the Quran is about Jesus

Mary said: My Lord! How can I have a child when no mortal hath touched me? He said: So (it will be). God createth what He will. If He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is (Qur’an 3:47)

Sound familiar?