[Brother Guy Bayard]

Re: Peace

He wrote nothing, he was illiterate

It was written FIRST in arabic many times over, before any sort of translation.

Again who is the one terrorizing? Your insulting me when I have not done anything. Good Job

You are not thinking for yourself. You are only regurgitating apologetics that have been fed to you.

You don't know that Mohammad was illiterate. There is only hearsay and tradition that says he was illiterate.

Mecca was a thriving business center in Mohammad's time and the vast majority of the population was educated. Mohammad was a successful businessman before he became a religious leader. It is highly unlikely that Mohammad was illiterate.

Does that make you wonder if there is anything else you believe that isn't true?

[Brother Guy Bayard]

Re: Peace

well daoud. Have you learnt anything yet?
Can you now see why it is that the Queeran and mo-ho-meds and islamofascists are nothing but blaspheming heathens?
are you ready to accept Jesus into your heart and secure your place in heaven?YOUR JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES BEGINS WITH ONE STEP - AND THAT STEP IS ...PAYPAL.
HIT THAT PAYPAL BUTTON NOW, THERE'S A GOOD TOWELHEAD. THERE MAY BE HOPE FOR YOU YET.

[Wide-Open]

Re: Peace

When Moohammed (piss be upon him) was alive the language used by most educated "A-rabs" was known as Syro-Aramaic (cultural and written).

At the time that the Queran was written "Arabic" was not a written or fully developed language. There were no written or commonly accepted grammatical rules, and the seventeen symbols used only contained consonants (and often these could stand for three or more "letters" or "sounds" as we know them). There were no vowels in the symbols, nor were there any marking as to where to put vowels or how to interpret consonants.

Amen Brother! Isn't it odd that we - the True Believers - have to explain this salad bar mooselimb the history of his own false booklet.

This explains why they need tafsir, hadiths - which they had to cut back to 6,000 ), scholars (who all contradict each other), and even had to "close the gate of the itjihad" to stop the infighting.

It also explains that their 72 virgins might actually be... 72 grapes. Good thing their heaven doesn't exist, otherwise they would be rather dissapointed.

72 of Satan's tallywhackers, that's what awaits them.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Peace

He wrote nothing, he was illiterate

It was written FIRST in arabic many times over, before any sort of translation.

Again who is the one terrorizing? Your insulting me when I have not done anything. Good Job

Brother Wide-Open is entirely correct.

When Moohammed (piss be upon him) was alive the language used by most educated "A-rabs" was known as Syro-Aramaic (cultural and written).

At the time that the Queran was written "Arabic" was not a written or fully developed language. There were no written or commonly accepted grammatical rules, and the seventeen symbols used only contained consonants (and often these could stand for three or more "letters" or "sounds" as we know them). There were no vowels in the symbols, nor were there any marking as to where to put vowels or how to interpret consonants.

To get a flavor of what all this nonsense is about when it comes to isham/queran, we can do a little experiment. Here is a sentence from one of your posts.

Abu Bakr, Mohammad, and Aisha agreed that the Marriage would occur, but Mohammad said she had to wait till she was mature.

Now to illustrate what the "original a-rabic" might have been like in the qurean, we will remove all the vowels and insert some of the ambiguity posed by the confusion in the consonant symbols:

b bkr mhmd ns sh grd tjt th mrg wjd cdr bt mhmd sd sh hd b wt tl sh ws mtr.

Even assuming that the angel Gabriel told Moohammed (piss be upon him) all this stuff, no one can really tell from the "original" text just what it was anyway. It is no wonder that the shias and sunnis are willing to kill each other over all this, not to mention the wahabbies. The mooselimbs are always claiming that the queran can't be translated, it is easy to see why - there is no way of knowing just what it says. It is just like the tower of Babble in the Bible (KJV1611), Jesus purposely confused the queeran because it is a false religion and for trying to make it "legitimate" by plagiarizing from the Bible.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Peace

I said 9-14, her actual age isnt known because they didnt use the english calender.

Another lie. She was 6 when she was forced to marry the old pervert, and 9 when he began molesting her. Moohamad would be in prison if he wasn't already dead and roasting in hell.

He was better then you will ever be, The Holy Spirit talked to Mohammad, I think he would know hot to spell it

Say that again and you'll wake up in Quarantine, heathen. Any True Christian™ is worth a million pedophile false prophets, and a Pastor is worth even more.

Not promoting it, just correcting the wrong. Remember God hates liars. There is tons of false claims which Im correcting so that God wont hate them for lieing

The moon cult called "islam" is nothing but one huge lie. And when are you going to ask your high school teacher to teach you proper American spelling, grammar and punctuation?

Jesus was kind to everyone, why dont you try acting like Jesus?

This has to be the most blatant lie ever told on this Godly forum. You have obviously never read the Holy Bible.

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.--Luke 19:27

Whos says im unsaved, Did you ask God?

No mudslime is Saved©. Everyone knows that.

God tells us in the Quran

That sentence doesn't make sense. God does not speak through that filthy degenerate old book called the kooran. God speaks through the Holy KJV1611 Bible. It's blasphemy to say otherwise.

I never said it was in the Bible, I was explaining the Quran, why dont you read everything I write instead of giving me an infraction for "falsefying what God said" I never said it was in the Bible. So you misquote me, out of context and give me an infraction, lovely

I'm about to give you another was of infractions for being uppity, disrespecting Jesus, quoting from a terrorist training manual and willful destruction of American grammar, spelling and punctuation.

[Deaner]

Re: Peace

Google "Christian Honor killings" and you get nearly the same result


But see, a few evil people who CLAIM to be muslims who cant even READ the Quran, do it. They are not muslims, and they will be damned to hell

I have no problem with the Christian honor killings, they are scriptually accurate and blessed by God. You won't see any Christians gunning down sand-coons without good reason.

If you have so many problems in your own house, why are you here judging us? How come you're not over in Iran telling all the jihadists that they're going to hell? How come you don't have a t-shirt on with camel balls going into Bin Laden's mouth? You scared?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Peace

I must admit that the Koran is sharp on the infidel. Ironically of course as, by not accepting Christ, this is the reality of what will befall the islamofascists.

Koran 8:37
In order that Allah may separate the impure from the pure, Put All the impure ones (Non-Muslim), one on top of the another in a Heap and cast them into Hell. They will be the ones to have lost

Koran 58:5
Those who resist Allah and His Messenger will be crumbled to dust, as were those before them: for we have already sent down Clear Signs and the Unbelievers will have a humiliating Penalty

Koran 2:39
Those who reject faith (Islam) and belie our signs, They shall be Companions of the Fire and abide in it.

The following verses are interesting; it appears that even if a True Christian™, such as I, were to have a copy of the Koran, it wouldn’t help much as allah says it will remain a mystery to me. This of course means that you have to sign up to being a Moslem without having read and understood the Koran…

Perhaps it is as well, or no one would ever become a moslem – they have all been tricked!


Disbelievers Cannot Understand Quran
[17:45] When you read the Quran, we place between you and those who do not believe in the Hereafter an invisible barrier.



And let us not forget the facile arguments as to how the infidel will disprove Islam...

Quran: The ONLY Source
[17:46] We place shields around their minds, to prevent them from understanding it, and deafness in their ears. And when you preach your Lord, using the Quran alone, they run away in aversion.
[17:47] We are fully aware of what they hear, when they listen to you, and when they conspire secretly - the disbelievers say,"You are following a crazy man."
[17:48] Note how they describe you, and how this causes them to stray off the path.
[17:49] They said, "After we turn into bones and fragments, we get resurrected anew?!"
[17:50] Say, "Even if you turn into rocks or iron.
[17:51] "Even if you turn into any kind of creation that you deem impossible." They will then say, "Who will bring us back?" Say, "The One who created you in the first place." They will then shake their heads and say, "When will that be?" Say, "It may be closer than you think."

[Brother Daoud]

Re: Peace

Did you just make that up?

No, some women claimed she heard from God and was hung. I forgot her name at the moment.

So why does muslim suicide bombing get approx. 1,350,000 hits on Google and muslim honor killings get 583,000?

That doesnt mean anything there is over 1.6 billion muslims. Type "God is fake" you will see over 26 million hits. And on the first page alone, HALF are talking AGAINST it, others are EXPLAINING It.

Google "Christian Honor killings" and you get nearly the same result
Here it is in the Quran: (think im lieing, look it up your self)

(2:195) You shall spend in the cause of GOD; do not throw yourselves with your own hands into destruction. You shall be charitable; GOD loves the charitable.



(4:29) O you who believe, do not consume each others' properties illicitly - only mutually acceptable transactions are permitted. You shall not kill yourselves. GOD is Merciful towards you.



(4:30) Anyone who commits these transgressions, maliciously and deliberately, he will condemn him to Hell. This is easy for GOD to do.


But see, a few evil people who CLAIM to be muslims who cant even READ the Quran, do it. They are not muslims, and they will be damned to hell

[Deaner]

Re: Peace

When America first started claiming to hear from God was a blashpemy, and was ruled death by hanging.

Did you just make that up?

Suicide is sinful in the Quran.
Killing your Children is also sinful according to the Quran

So why does muslim suicide bombing get approx. 1,350,000 hits on Google and muslim honor killings get 583,000?

[Brother Daoud]

Re: Peace

Why don't you stop blowing yourselves up in cafeterias?



I just did. God told me all that mudslums are dirty, brown-faced pigs who beat their own children to death in honour killings then spit on their graves. Real nice.

God also told me you're nothing but a weirdo with an identity crisis and low self-esteem because you have no friends.

When America first started claiming to hear from God was a blashpemy, and was ruled death by hanging.

Why don't you stop blowing yourselves up in cafeterias?

Suicide is sinful in the Quran.
Killing your Children is also sinful according to the Quran
You cant even do an abortion according to the Quran

[Deaner]

Re: Peace

Jesus was kind to everyone, why dont you try acting like Jesus?

Why don't you stop blowing yourselves up in cafeterias?

Whos says im unsaved, Did you ask God?

I just did. God told me all that mudslums are dirty, brown-faced pigs who beat their own children to death in honour killings then spit on their graves. Real nice.

God also told me you're nothing but a weirdo with an identity crisis and low self-esteem because you have no friends.

[Brother Daoud]

Re: Peace

Nope, sorry. It was first of all not written by Moohamed

He wrote nothing, he was illiterate

and the languages from the different versions don't even exist anymore. It also contains words from Farsi, Araimic, Ethiopian and a few other languages.

It was "Arabised" later by Uthman Ibn Affan.

It was written FIRST in arabic many times over, before any sort of translation.

Get your facts right, you little terrorist.

Again who is the one terrorizing? Your insulting me when I have not done anything. Good Job

[Brother Daoud]

Re: Peace

Are you seriously going to sit there and tell us that the "age of maturity" is 9 YEARS OLD!?

I said 9-14, her actual age isnt known because they didnt use the english calender.

The name is spelt as the Holy Spirit moves us to spell it. He was a filthy pedophile, and doesn't deserve any respect at all.

He was better then you will ever be, The Holy Spirit talked to Mohammad, I think he would know hot to spell it

That won't save you, towelhead. Jesus sees through your cheap deceptions.

No deception here, and again I dont wear towels on my head.

Promoting the cult of islam is blasphemey,

Not promoting it, just correcting the wrong. Remember God hates liars. There is tons of false claims which Im correcting so that God wont hate them for lieing

and extremely rude on a Christian forum. And what exactly is "courdasy?" If you're trying to say "courtesy", we owe you none.

Jesus was kind to everyone, why dont you try acting like Jesus?

God warns us to avoid unsaved scum like you.

Whos says im unsaved, Did you ask God?

Hence our large church banner: "UNSAVED = UNWELCOME."

Again you dont know if im saved or not. We were having a mature discussion, until you came along and ruined it.

Another terrorist lie.

Look whos doing the terrorism? Here I am peacefully talking, and you come along by threating me, and giving me infractions. English is the Language in America.

How would you know? You're a damned islamofascist! God has not given you the ability to understand.

God tells us in the Quran

Prove it. Show us in the Bible where it says that.

I never said it was in the Bible, I was explaining the Quran, why dont you read everything I write instead of giving me an infraction for "falsefying what God said" I never said it was in the Bible. So you misquote me, out of context and give me an infraction, lovely

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Peace

Basically, because the marriage couldnt be done until she reached the age of maturity.

Are you seriously going to sit there and tell us that the "age of maturity" is 9 YEARS OLD!?

By the way his name is Mohammad. or Muhammad.

The name is spelt as the Holy Spirit moves us to spell it. He was a filthy pedophile, and doesn't deserve any respect at all.

Thats funny most muslims I know are republicans (even my self)

That won't save you, towelhead. Jesus sees through your cheap deceptions.

Third have I ever insulted the Bible? Calling it some rude and obscene name? No, so why are you insulting the Quran, to me its a Holy Book. For you the Bible is a Holy Book, and I respect that so I dont insult it. But you dont seem to get the concept of common courdasy.

Promoting the cult of islam is blasphemey, and extremely rude on a Christian forum. And what exactly is "courdasy?" If you're trying to say "courtesy", we owe you none. God warns us to avoid unsaved scum like you. Hence our large church banner: "UNSAVED = UNWELCOME."

1. American isn't a language

Another terrorist lie.

2. God wanted to keep it a sacred and perfect book, there is no such thing as a perfect translation.

How would you know? You're a damned islamofascist! God has not given you the ability to understand.

John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Let me explain this in terms you can understand. God first revealed the Torah (Old testament), over time for whatever reason, God said its time to send the next revalation with Jesus, Boom the Bible (New testament came). Then God saw that the Catholics had corrupted the Bible, (Romans) and the Jews had lost most of the the Torah when the Catholics (romans) burned the Jewish scriptures. So God revealed the 3rd book the Quran (Final Testament).

1. Torah (Old Testament)
2. Bible (New Testament)
3. Quran (Final Testament)
-So the Quran talks about Jesus in tons of details, as well as Moses, Solomon, David, Adam & Even, Enoch, Abraham, etc etc. So as Muslims we DO follow Jesus[/QUOTE]

Prove it. Show us in the Bible where it says that.

[Wide-Open]

Re: Peace

Yes it was, the orignal Quran from the 600's still exists.

Nope, sorry. It was first of all not written by Moohamed, and the languages from the different versions don't even exist anymore. It also contains words from Farsi, Araimic, Ethiopian and a few other languages.

It was "Arabised" later by Uthman Ibn Affan.

Get your facts right, you little terrorist.