[Brother Harold Porter]

Re: Speaking as a Mulsim I CONDEMN Orlando mass shooter!

Ezekiel, thank you for your thoughts on this. But I want to know, do YOU think it is OK that Omar Mateen was on gay dating apps and going to gay nightclubs?

Of course no Christian would approve of any man cruising for gay analism. Your own ridiculous book even tells you this.


But it needs to be kept in context that most Muslim men are, at least, partially closeted homosexuals. Christian men love women! And we expect that they join the men in intercourse for Christ.


Muslim men, on the other hand, have such visceral hatred of the lesser sex. This naturally leads to an alternative means of satisfying the spasm of the prostate. And to that end, almost exclusively within the bowels of another man.


When I chose to be gay, my mornings were filled with random couplings with Arabic men, and they always consented. I would bat the turban off their heads, anally assault them, see it through to the finish, and they always thanked me for my gift.


Of course, this was long before I found Jesus. But the Muslims still stalk me for what I once was. The Arabic lust for homo-rectal fudge-packing is apparently insatiable.


In Christ

[Faith_Machine]

Re: Speaking as a Mulsim I CONDEMN Orlando mass shooter!

Muqtada, I couldn't help but notice you've had a lot to say about Omar Mateen's homosexuality, but you've been strangely silent on the topic of the act of terrorism he committed.


Is there some reason you, as a Muslim, have not condemned this cowardly act?

[Muqtada Al-Amriki]

Re: Speaking as a Mulsim I CONDEMN Orlando mass shooter!

Thank you for your question, Mr. Faith. I think this come down to a difference between our two religion, but let me say I respect that you have a different practice.



You see, in Christian Bible, it say you should obey all local laws. So I understand you have no choice but to condemn Omar Mateen's shooting spree, as it is against local law in Florida and against US law.




But in Islam, you see, we do not have separate church and state. Ideal thing is for both religion and law to be under one control, which is Islam.


So if you are living in Muslim country, of course you obey sharia.


But for Muslim living outside Muslim country, Quran does not command us to follow every local law all the time.




So in our teaching, yes Omar Mateen did something against local law, but we do not have to condemn him for breaking local secular law.


Is much more important he follow God's law, you know?


And I don't think he breaks God's law with the shooting in the nightclub. Only the gay sex he had was haram.


Hope this helps!

[Just Chris]

Re: Speaking as a Mulsim I CONDEMN Orlando mass shooter!

Thank you for your question, Mr. Faith. I think this come down to a difference between our two religion, but let me say I respect that you have a different practice.



You see, in Christian Bible, it say you should obey all local laws. So I understand you have no choice but to condemn Omar Mateen's shooting spree, as it is against local law in Florida and against US law.




But in Islam, you see, we do not have separate church and state. Ideal thing is for both religion and law to be under one control, which is Islam.


So if you are living in Muslim country, of course you obey sharia.


But for Muslim living outside Muslim country, Quran does not command us to follow every local law all the time.




So in our teaching, yes Omar Mateen did something against local law, but we do not have to condemn him for breaking local secular law.


Is much more important he follow God's law, you know?


And I don't think he breaks God's law with the shooting in the nightclub. Only the gay sex he had was haram.


Hope this helps!

My friend you are proof of what i have been trying to preach here that all Muslims aren't terrorist, before I went to Iraq I use to think like most Americans and though all Muslims were the scum of the earth but their was one while I was in battle our squad got overran and we retreated in the retreat I was shot down and I told them all to leave my life was not worth losing theirs. My fellow brother's in arm's respected my wishes the terrorist decided to leave me and let me suffer by doing slowly in that damn desert. While I laid their bleeding out on the verge of a death that was gonna come sooner or later a group of Muslims found me, gave me medical aid and helped me return to my base. It was that group that changed my views of your people. I though that since those Muslims saved me a solider whose fighting has destroyed many peoples homes and whose guns have killed many innocent men, woman and children then their are surely others like them who can see the evils of what Al-Qaida was doing. During my time their I saw several who were kill by Al-Qaida who were killed because they wouldent join them. The war changed me a lot, it made me a more tolerant man and never judge a whole religion based on a few bad people in it. I'm not proud of everything I did while I was fighting, I remember their was one day while I fighting an innocent mother and her baby child were killed by my gun in the crossfire. Every night since then I normally dream of that one because of me a child who probably wasn't even a year old died. Their were many others like them who were killed and they didn't deserve it. I pray every night for the Lord to help me with these nightmares. Everyone I knew that was killed by me because they were caught in the crossfire I remember every exact detail of them. I hope these Christians that say all if your people are terrorist will one day learn the truth like I have.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Speaking as a Mulsim I CONDEMN Orlando mass shooter!

The same bullsh*t story for the umpteenth time.

[Harsha Shah]

Re: Speaking as a Mulsim I CONDEMN Orlando mass shooter!

My friend you are proof of what i have been trying to preach here that all Muslims aren't terrorist, before I went to Iraq I use to think like most Americans and though all Muslims were the scum of the earth but their was one while I was in battle our squad got overran and we retreated in the retreat I was shot down and I told them all to leave my life was not worth losing theirs. My fellow brother's in arm's respected my wishes the terrorist decided to leave me and let me suffer by doing slowly in that damn desert. While I laid their bleeding out on the verge of a death that was gonna come sooner or later a group of Muslims found me, gave me medical aid and helped me return to my base. It was that group that changed my views of your people. I though that since those Muslims saved me a solider whose fighting has destroyed many peoples homes and whose guns have killed many innocent men, woman and children then their are surely others like them who can see the evils of what Al-Qaida was doing. During my time their I saw several who were kill by Al-Qaida who were killed because they wouldent join them. The war changed me a lot, it made me a more tolerant man and never judge a whole religion based on a few bad people in it. I'm not proud of everything I did while I was fighting, I remember their was one day while I fighting an innocent mother and her baby child were killed by my gun in the crossfire. Every night since then I normally dream of that one because of me a child who probably wasn't even a year old died. Their were many others like them who were killed and they didn't deserve it. I pray every night for the Lord to help me with these nightmares. Everyone I knew that was killed by me because they were caught in the crossfire I remember every exact detail of them. I hope these Christians that say all if your people are terrorist will one day learn the truth like I have.

Mr. Chris,

Yes. I am Harsha Shah. I am hoping that I am not offending you but your story was very touching. I am thinking that you have been experiencing horrible things and that you did not rally have an idea what was going to happen when you became a soldier. Yes.

I am trying to understand the notion that not all Muslims or Christians are terrorists. Yes. I am thinking that of course they are not but at the same time they have these books that are being used for extremely different goals. Yes. Some are using them to oppose violence and some are using them to promote violence. Yes, and both are finding lots of verses to support their own position.

Yes. I am hoping that I am not offending you but I am thinking that it is time the leaders who are promoting these religions took responsibility of their words and for the words of their holy books. They are preaching wars and revenge for Jesus and Allah until someone takes them seriously and then they are turning back and denying everything. I am sorry but I am very angry about this. Yes, I am.

You are disturbed and I am very sorry. Yes. No-one has been answering your prayers. I am thinking now that the books are so mixed about violence that they can only have been written by human beings. I am hoping that I am not offending you but I am asking you to consider that maybe there is no-one who will answer you, no-one listening to your prayers. Yes.

The life of a mother and a child are gone and you are saying that you are partly responsible. Yes. Nobody can change that but you can learn and see the world in its complexity. I am thinking that the world of the Jesus and Allah is very simple with enemies and friends. It is the dual false world of good and evil of Oriental philosophy that my parents were teaching me when I was a girl. Yes. It is a false world. I was raised a Jainist with non-violencce and vegetarianism. Yes. The religion is gone now but the non-violence remains. Yes.

There is a possibility that explains what you have been experiencing. Yes. There is no-one there. The world without a god may seem sad to you but it can be sad and beautiful. Yes.

[Faith_Machine]

Re: Speaking as a Mulsim I CONDEMN Orlando mass shooter!

My friend you are proof of what i have been trying to preach here that all Muslims aren't terrorist, before I went to Iraq I use to think like most Americans and though all Muslims were the scum of the earth but their was one while I was in battle our squad got overran and we retreated in the retreat I was shot down and I told them all to leave my life was not worth losing theirs. My fellow brother's in arm's respected my wishes the terrorist decided to leave me and let me suffer by doing slowly in that damn desert. While I laid their bleeding out on the verge of a death that was gonna come sooner or later a group of Muslims found me, gave me medical aid and helped me return to my base. It was that group that changed my views of your people. I though that since those Muslims saved me a solider whose fighting has destroyed many peoples homes and whose guns have killed many innocent men, woman and children then their are surely others like them who can see the evils of what Al-Qaida was doing. During my time their I saw several who were kill by Al-Qaida who were killed because they wouldent join them. The war changed me a lot, it made me a more tolerant man and never judge a whole religion based on a few bad people in it. I'm not proud of everything I did while I was fighting, I remember their was one day while I fighting an innocent mother and her baby child were killed by my gun in the crossfire. Every night since then I normally dream of that one because of me a child who probably wasn't even a year old died. Their were many others like them who were killed and they didn't deserve it. I pray every night for the Lord to help me with these nightmares. Everyone I knew that was killed by me because they were caught in the crossfire I remember every exact detail of them. I hope these Christians that say all if your people are terrorist will one day learn the truth like I have.

Friend, I am praying you will learn to use paragraph breaks.

[PetitionLady]

Re: Islam is of the devil.

Every time I see something like this, I immediately think of taqiyya and kitman (moslems LYING.) If you ask them about this, they will lie about lying. Truly pathetic.

Islam is a vicious, satanic, hate cult that has no place on our planet.

[Catholicbooger]

Re: Speaking as a Mulsim I CONDEMN Orlando mass shooter!

Hello my friends I know everybody still on edge and freak out because of what Omar Mateen did at Orlando nightclub "Pulse."

And right now I want to say to you this man Omar Mateen, the mass shooter, he is not, I repeat NOT a true Muslim!




And I call upon all my fellow Muslim to CONDEMN this man.


Maybe you are not believe me and maybe you want to say he is example of how all Muslims act, but please hear my words and decide for yourself.


I am sure after you hear what I say, you will agree with me everything this man does is against Islamic teaching.


1. Orlando shooter failed to control his first wife and allow her to divorce him.


I mean come on, what kind of Muslim man can not enforce discipline in his house? Omar should have read Quran 4:34:


And divorce? Divorce only allowed in Islam for very extreme things, like if bride family fool you and you look under her clothes and she have a doodool!


And his wife, after he let her run away? Did she fear and respect him enough to wait three menstruations before hopping in bed with other man? I do not know, but Quran 2:228 require it:





You know she did not wait! Why he married a woman who would do that?




2. Orlando Shooter goes on Tinder app and goes to gay nightclubs and is a gay.




OK what else can I say about this man? He is on the gay dating app and he is going in the gay clubs and make a disgrace of himself, having gay relation, which is PROHIBIT in Quran.




You all know Quran (7:80-84) say gay homosexual is to be STONED TO DEATH.



This Omar Mateen, he bring so much shame and embarrassment to Muslim community, I wish he will be alive again just so I can stone him back to death.


Disgusting, filthy man!




So there you have it my friends, Orlando Shooter should be CONDEMNED by all good Muslims.


I DENOUNCE his behavior!




Thank you.

The world can be more calm now knowing that the fifty gays should had been stoned rather than being gunned down.


Thank you.

[redstoneblock]

Re: Speaking as a Mulsim I CONDEMN Orlando mass shooter!

I condemn the mass shooting too. Those who think it is ok to rob the life of someone with thoughts, feelings, emotions, families, a life JUST LIKE US is despicable, no matter what a stupid misogynist book says. They are the true demons here.

An Atheist

[Elmer G. White]

Re: Speaking as a Mulsim I CONDEMN Orlando mass shooter!

I condemn the mass shooting too. Those who think it is ok to rob the life of someone with thoughts, feelings, emotions, families, a life JUST LIKE US is despicable, no matter what a stupid misogynist book says. They are the true demons here.

An Atheist

Dear Miss Block,

Let us look at the part of your post that I marked with red emphasis.

• We also think that it is the ultimate crime to rob someone of Life and Happiness.
• The longer the Life with as much Happiness as possible, the better, don't you agree?
• This can be attained by choosing Eternal Life in Jesus. An Eternal Existence in Heaven with Happiness and those family members who have chosen Jesus cannot be exceeded. It is the most repulsive crime imaginable to take this away from someone. That is what the Lieberal False Christians do. They claim that anyone can enter heaven to be with Jesus for Eternity.

That is a lie.

Jesus has told us that only a few will get there:

Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Telling a sodomite that "it's OK, Jesus will accept you as you are" is one way to commit this ultimate crime. It is not OK.

Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Jesus could have prevented the Orlando incident. He decided not to. It must have served the greater good. We can expect many of the victims to understand that Jesus was displeased with them. They will Repent (Matthew 3:2) and choose Jesus. Instead of losing Life Eternal, they have gained it. The cost-benefit analysis of this is positive even if a single affected person repents, as Eternal life goes on for ever and it will compensate the losses that represent only some tens of years.



The Truth™ is not comfortable but despite heavy and constant persecution, we feel that is is our duty to repeat it at great personal risk of being bullied and mocked by atheists. We do this for LOVE.

Galatians 4:16
Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

P.S. You claim to be an atheist, but I am very happy to see that it is not so, as you believe in the demons that oppose Jesus. This gives us hope that you'll see the Light that is Jesus (John 1:4) eventually.

[Muqtada Al-Amriki]

Re: Speaking as a Mulsim I CONDEMN Orlando mass shooter!

I condemn the mass shooting too.

My friend I think you have a misunderstanding if you say you condemn the shooting too, like you think I condemn it?




Let us be clear: I condemn shooter, not shooting.


I condemn shooter because he is a gay.




Thank you.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Speaking as a Mulsim I CONDEMN Orlando mass shooter!

I condemn the mass shooting too. Those who think it is ok to rob the life of someone with thoughts, feelings, emotions, families, a life JUST LIKE US is despicable, no matter what a stupid misogynist book says. They are the true demons here.

An Atheist

The lives robbed belong to Jesus (Romans 14:8). He is the real victim here!

[PetitionLady]

Re: Speaking as a Mulsim I CONDEMN Orlando mass shooter!

Dear Miss Block,

Let us look at the part of your post that I marked with red emphasis.

• We also think that it is the ultimate crime to rob someone of Life and Happiness.
• The longer the Life with as much Happiness as possible, the better, don't you agree?
• This can be attained by choosing Eternal Life in Jesus. An Eternal Existence in Heaven with Happiness and those family members who have chosen Jesus cannot be exceeded. It is the most repulsive crime imaginable to take this away from someone. That is what the Lieberal False Christians do. They claim that anyone can enter heaven to be with Jesus for Eternity.

That is a lie.

Jesus has told us that only a few will get there:

Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Telling a sodomite that "it's OK, Jesus will accept you as you are" is one way to commit this ultimate crime. It is not OK.

Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Jesus could have prevented the Orlando incident. He decided not to. It must have served the greater good. We can expect many of the victims to understand that Jesus was displeased with them. They will Repent (Matthew 3:2) and choose Jesus. Instead of losing Life Eternal, they have gained it. The cost-benefit analysis of this is positive even if a single affected person repents, as Eternal life goes on for ever and it will compensate the losses that represent only some tens of years.



The Truth™ is not comfortable but despite heavy and constant persecution, we feel that is is our duty to repeat it at great personal risk of being bullied and mocked by atheists. We do this for LOVE.

Galatians 4:16
Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

P.S. You claim to be an atheist, but I am very happy to see that it is not so, as you believe in the demons that oppose Jesus. This gives us hope that you'll see the Light that is Jesus (John 1:4) eventually.

Dear Brother Elmer, I appreciate the time and effort you took to post the above. It refreshed my heart and reminds me of this verse:
Matthew 7:13-14King James Version (KJV)

13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.




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Thank you, Brother Elmer