[Brentin]

Re: Vasilis from Grease

My answer is: God made us like him: free. If He affects our lives continuously then we are not free anymore - we do an action and we have to deal with the reaction! - so in my eyes it is like He cancels himself by canceling our freedom.


But this is how - the sin - Vasilis see it...

We was created in the Image of God


Genesis 1:27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them


The only way we can be free is through Jesus Christ

John 14:6

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


1 John 1:9

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

And when we have been cleansed of are sins we are set free from the bondage of sin.

John 8:36

If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed


If God through his Holy Spirit is affecting your life. Pray that the Lord continues to affect your life.

Hebrews 12:6-11

6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.

11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.


But I also encourage you to read diligently his word


Matthew 7:14

Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it

[BrotherLarry]

Re: Vasilis from Grease

What???


http://www.history.com/topics/ancien...ory/trojan-war

I don't think Brother Bryan's post is difficult to understand. He wrote it in very clear American. Grease is the land where the olympiacs were all naked, their generalia swinging as they vaulted with the Polish and drank shots (The shot put is an odd name for a drinking game). It was a carnivale of lust and indecent exposure, with unnatural infection between menfolk. Why would it not follow that condom sales was probably a lucrative endeavor for the druggists of the time?


But all that aside, the important thing now is for you to get on your knees before the LORD GOD and ask for His forgivement of sin, which he freely giveth. Prepare for a joyous life of slavery to Christ, which is freedom like you've never known! Hallelujah!

[Vasilis]

Re: Vasilis from Grease

We also need to put this in perspective here - ancient Grease is where Homerism first got started. It so overtook their culture that they fought a Trojan war over it, where there was a monopoly on the first condoms - no doubt that they were aware even back then that they were needed to prevent the spread of AIDS.

What???

http://www.history.com/topics/ancient-history/trojan-war

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Vasilis from Grease

We have them in the hills near my own home. They have a monastery there where they have frequently been arrested for perversions with the male youth. Most of the staff gets locked up every now and then. Also, friend, far from rejecting popery, they have embraced it and they even have their own pope. They are Romans who take their orders from Moscow. Most of them are likely spies.

We also need to put this in perspective here - ancient Grease is where Homerism first got started. It so overtook their culture that they fought a Trojan war over it, where there was a monopoly on the first condoms - no doubt that they were aware even back then that they were needed to prevent the spread of AIDS.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Vasilis from Grease

AFAIK Mosaic Law is part of the Old Testament, if not mistaken.And I don't like the part (free translation from Greek) "eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth". The reason is that the Christ teaches LOVE and not hate!

Hello Vasilis. I wonder whether you read deuterocanonical books collected as "apocrypha" in some Bibles? These appear quite early in different combinations, for example in the Septuagint, and contain rather dubious principles.

Especially concerning the rôle of idols.

And love. Of course Jesus loves Christians but what about everyone else? There are many who have never heard of Jesus at all (increasingly less but there they are anyway), and others who jeer openly! How is Christ's love manifest for these wretches?

There's a post containing the main points somewhere . . . . . . . . yes, here it is: LINK TO POST

Welcome to the forum, I hope you find fellowship here beneficial.

[Alvin Moss]

Re: Vasilis from Grease

Even though they will burn in a lake of fire for being heathens, I do respect the fact that the Greek Orthodox Church has a healthy hatred of popish nonsense.

Does their clergy also eschew the buggering of little boys, or do they share that perversion with the papists?

We have them in the hills near my own home. They have a monastery there where they have frequently been arrested for perversions with the male youth. Most of the staff gets locked up every now and then. Also, friend, far from rejecting popery, they have embraced it and they even have their own pope. They are Romans who take their orders from Moscow. Most of them are likely spies.

[Brock Landers]

Re: Vasilis from Grease

Even though they will burn in a lake of fire for being heathens, I do respect the fact that the Greek Orthodox Church has a healthy hatred of popish nonsense.

Does their clergy also eschew the buggering of little boys, or do they share that perversion with the papists?

[BrotherLarry]

Re: Vasilis from Grease

Hi Trevor,


in Greece, there are all kind of people.
I don't see a color as I am volunteer in the red cross.


What I see is this:

Well, you are partially right. Gays, atheists, and pirates will most likely end up looking like that, only with a little more char. They WILL burn in Hell. Behold, they shall be as stubble, The fire shall burn them; They shall not deliver themselves From the power of the flame; It shall not be a coal to be warmed by, Nor a fire to sit before! Isaiah 47:14.

No, this won't be a friendly hearth that JESUS prepares for us as he feeds us canteloupe and cheeses. This will be an eternal, never-ending, unstoppable place of torment and punishment. Extremely warm.

But we have assurance that if we repent of our sins, we will be forgiven. (1 John 1:9) We can't cherry pick scripture, friend. We must obey it and respect it since it was ALL given for our benefit. (2 Timothy 3:16)

I will add you to my electronic prayer list. This guarantees that your name will be brought before the Throne of Grace(R) at least twice a week, since I am in the closet every day. If I see a need, I can cause your name to appear more often. We'll determine that later.

In the meantime, won't you trust in JESUS and allow Him to remove the scales from your eyes? (Acts 9:18)

COME, LORD JESUS!
BrotherLarry

[I Man Rastafari]

Re: Vasilis from Grease

Hi Trevor,


in Greece, there are all kind of people.
I don't see a color as I am volunteer in the red cross.


What I see is this:

I have never seen anyone who looks like that in Jamaica or even in Babylon which is a wicked place. In Haiti they believe in the voodoo and they have drawings of people like that but I have never believed they exist because I am Rastafari. Do Greeks truly look like this? I do not think I would ever want to go around Greece if the Greeks look like this.

[Elmer G. White]

Re: Vasilis from Grease

Hi Trevor,

in Greece, there are all kind of people.
I don't see a color as I am volunteer in the red cross.

What I see is this:

Oh dear! Mr. Vasilis, the innermost essence of our being is not our material skeleton but our soul.

Genesis 2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

The skeleton is but one part of the exterior and I think that you'll agree that it is what is within that determines us. In this case, the Hamite race that is challenged as it comes to their pigmentation, chose voluntarily to become a servant race as they violated the chastity of their human father, Noah!

Genesis 9:22-25
And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without. And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness. And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him. And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

You may see the skeleton with your well-meaning but ultimately useless X-ray vision. Jesus, however, does not look at the skeleton, He sees the soul, and yours is in peril!

Matthew 16:26
For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Vasilis from Grease

What I see is this:

That's the difference between you and Jesus. Until one has been Born Again, all He sees is filthy menstrual rags:


But we are all as an unclean thing,
and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags
Isaiah 64:6

[Vasilis]

Re: Vasilis from Grease

they wear masks in Greece too, where citizens are not allows to be armed...



And I don't believe music is the problem!

But it might be the rap music, don't you think? We have a few anarchists here, too. They enjoy joining with unsaved Negroes to cause mayhem, but we keep them thinned out. We are Americans as well as Christians, so we are well armed. When anarchists show themselves, we shoot them. That is why you see them wearing masks- they don't want us to recognize them later.

[Dolores de Barriga]

Re: Vasilis from Grease

My answer is: God made us like him: free. If He affects our lives continuously then we are not free anymore - we do an action and we have to deal with the reaction! - so in my eyes it is like He cancels himself by canceling our freedom.

Following your logic, it's pointless to pray to God during events such as wars and genocides because if He intervened to help those who pray to Him, He would have to encroach on the liberty of the evildoers. Also, He cannot intervene to help people who pray to Him during natural events such like earthquakes or famines or even terminal illnesses because if He did then the victims of these events wouldn't be free anymore.

Congratulations - you just were able to cancel the necessity of existence of religions in the first place, because with one simple sentence you've stated that God is useless.



I'm pretty sure that's a blasphemy.

[Vasilis]

Re: Vasilis from Grease

Hi Trevor,


in Greece, there are all kind of people.
I don't see a color as I am volunteer in the red cross.


What I see is this:

Greetings Vasislis. I am also a foreigner and not a Baptist. You do not have to be a Baptist to enjoy fellowship with these white people but I would advise you to avoid talking about your own beliefs. I have found these people to be among the kindest in Babylon but they are easily angered and being white people they can be dangerous. Luckily you are far away in Greece and they probably can not find you if they become irate.

I am Trevor McGregor from Tivoli Gardens in the city of Kingston which is in Jamaica which is my home. I have come here to Babylon to be educated but I am on sabbatical from my studies to work in the campaign of Hillary Clinton who will soon be the President of America. I myself will be an important dignitary and work in the State Department while attending Georgetown University. Can you tell us more about the country of Greece? Are there Black men there?

Jah Guide!
Trevor

[Vasilis]

Re: Vasilis from Grease

Hello, Mr. Vasilis. I must say that for a while I was like you, thinking that with Jesus God somehow changed His character, and transformed from a hateful, vengeful being into a loving one.

Then I've read the New Testament, and quite frankly, Jesus is as hateful, vengeful, and quite frankly xenophobic just as the God of the Old Testament.

Now, when you look outside of the Holy Bible and at the history of Christianity, pretty much since year 313 A.D., it's a history of hateful, vengeful, and xenophobic behavior towards everyone who is defined as "not us" - be it people of other religion, other skin color, or simply those who follow a different interpretation of Christianity.

Which makes me think, does God enjoy all of the genocide, slavery and other ways of oppressing people, which has been done in His name for the past 1700 years?

If He does, then He is cruel and not worthy of our worship. If He doesn't, then why would he allow it? Maybe he's not omnipotent? Or maybe there is no God to begin with?...

I have these thoughts and then I'm scared that I'll go to Hell, but these are legitimate questions, right?...

My answer is: God made us like him: free. If He affects our lives continuously then we are not free anymore - we do an action and we have to deal with the reaction! - so in my eyes it is like He cancels himself by canceling our freedom.


But this is how - the sin - Vasilis see it...