To Thomas Taylor:
I just told you that Lilith I speak of is not an owl. Perhaps the possible reference just proved to be a misconception.
Now then, I do like hunting as I like fishing. It is good to be close to the nature. Freshly caught and gutted fish with salt, cooked in smoke-can tastes wonderful.
Ah Derek,
You have been totally misled by the baseless claims of the Wikidpedophile. Don't believe a word of it. Derek, Lilith IS AN OWL. God in His INFINITE Wisdom has told us so in His Book THE HOLY BIBLE (KJV 1611). Please let me explain it in a Simple Christian manner:
1. Who is Lilith Research - Holy Bible (KJV 1611)
Isaiah 34:14
“The wilde beasts of the desert shall also meete with the wilde beasts of the Iland and the satyre shall cry to his felow, the shrichowle also shall rest there, & finde for her selfe a place of rest.”
2. Translate Shrichowle to Hebrew (Using Holy Bible KJV 1611 Cross References and Sources: Owl
"(1.) Heb. bath-haya'anah, "daughter of greediness" or of" shouting. In the list of unclean birds (Lev. 11:16; Deut. 14:15); also mentioned in Job 30:29; Isa. 13:21; 34:13; 43:20; Jer. 50:39; Micah 1:8. In all these passages the Revised Version "translates "ostrich" (q.v.), which is the correct rendering." "(2.) Heb. yanshuph, rendered "great owl" in Lev. 11:17; Deut. "14:16, and "owl" in Isa. 34:11. This is supposed to be the" "Egyptian eagle-owl (Bubo ascalaphus), which takes the place of" the eagle-owl (Bubo maximus) found in Southern Europe. It is found frequenting the ruins of Egypt and also of the Holy Land. "Its cry is a loud, prolonged, and very powerful hoot. I know" nothing which more vividly brought to my mind the sense of desolation and loneliness than the re-echoing hoot of two or three of these great owls as I stood at midnight among the "ruined temples of Baalbek" (Tristram)." "The LXX. and Vulgate render this word by "ibis", i.e., the Egyptian heron. "(3.) Heb. kos, rendered "little owl" in Lev. 11:17; Deut. 14:16, "and "owl" in Ps. 102:6. The Arabs call this bird "the mother of" "ruins." It is by far the most common of all the owls of" "Palestine. It is the Athene persica, the bird of Minerva, the" symbol of ancient Athens. "(4.) Heb. kippoz, the "great owl" (Isa. 34:15); Revised Version, "arrow-snake; LXX. and Vulgate, "hedgehog," reading in the" "text, kippod, instead of kippoz. There is no reason to doubt the" correctness of the rendering of the Authorized Version. Tristram "says: "The word [i.e., kippoz] is very possibly an imitation of" "the cry of the scops owl (Scops giu), which is very common among" "ruins, caves, and old walls of towns...It is a migrant," "returning to Palestine in spring." "(5.) Heb. lilith, "screech owl" (Isa. 34:14, marg. and R.V., night monster). The Hebrew word is from a root signifying night. Some species of the owl is obviously intended by this "word. It may be the hooting or tawny owl (Syrnium aluco), which" is common in Egypt and in many parts of Palestine. This verse in "Isaiah is "descriptive of utter and perpetual desolation, of a" "land that should be full of ruins, and inhabited by the animals" "that usually make such ruins their abode." (Larry, please use the private, unlisted and secure number I provided you with not the direct line) 3. Outcome
Lilith means Owl. This is clearly true as God has told it to us.
Simple: research, read Bible (KJV 1611), result. - not that hard and I done it all for you with Help from Jesus.
Now just think what you could do if you would only put your trust and Faith in the Gentle Hands of Our Lord Jesus.
Let me know how it feels when you feel the Holy Spirit enter you.
You may have heard of me or perhaps perused some of my wise and intellectually stimulating messages on our friendly forums. If so, please do not feel awestricken by my comments here. I am used to the attention and assure you that at heart my messages are simple and meant for spreading the love of our Savior, Jesus Christ. I have great news for you!
I have prayed for you, pleading the BLOOD OF JESUS over your soul. I have asked GOD to place a hedge of protection around you for the rest of your days, and I have claimed your very being for the Glory of God! Isn't that wonderful? No need to thank me - I do this for all men with the assurance that GOD answers prayer - always.
I happen to know this Lilith quite well. I first learned of her from watching shows like Frasier and True Blood back in my sinful papist days. I'm not sure why you fancy her since she often treated Dr. Crane badly and while her naked body was fine, it was covered in ketchup or something when she appeared to Bill Compton. I would advise universal precautions at all times.
I do not think you should go hunting with Brother Tommy-tom-tom, as he is MY friend and if anyone takes him somewhere isolated in a tent where we will share stories all night and then get up and make waffles, it shall be me. You are, of course, more than welcome to chat with him here if the topics remain Christ-like and platonic. (You didn't return my 42 calls, Tom)
One thing I would like to point out to you is that just being "aware" of your fate doesn't seal it nor make it right. in 1 John 1:9, one of my favorite quotes from the scriptures, we see that if we confess our sins, God will forgive them. I completely understand the precepts of Satanism, as I explored that way of life when I was a boy of 16 1/2. Picture me, masturbating to pictures of icky things, fighting the conviction of the Holy Spirit to stop, even seeing Jesus' face as I reached climax, and yet spitting on Him as I sought more and more perverted objects to satisfy my lust. You said that things are right if they are right for us - but none of us is an island. None of us goes through life without affecting another person, and my continued self abuse affected my poor mother who had to wash Vaseline and semen out of my sheets, socks, underwear, hair brush (don't ask) and even my copy of the Missal from church (I had it covering up a Juggs magazine).
My brother, Jesus is working on you even now and no amount of your pride or arrogance (and that's what this resistance truly is) will stop Him. I look forward to the day when you realize our love is unstoppable and that the love of God far surpasses our love.
You are welcome here, friend. May Christ's compassion and mercy surround you forever.
I admire your eloquent text as it gives wings to the imagination.
However it seems that you haven't yet internalized the fact that I am well aware of the torment that awaits me.
I am not expecting any parties once I arrive in hell.
Hello Mr. Requiem... pro quem, if I may ask?
I understand how you feel... I, too, fear the eternal punishment for having heretic thoughts about the cruelty of God...
This lack of moral compass you speak of however could not be so plainly described. I have a moral compass of my own. Moral compass that is shaped through freedom of will and choice. And this moral compass has chosen to obey the ten commandments from third to tenth.
I mean, why not go all the way and use the Sabbath as a regular working day? Also, do you keep the Sabbath as the Jews or Sunday as Christians or do you keep it on the safe side and do not perform any work on the weekend at all?
I a humble man, I do not ask for everlasting paradise to myself. I respect God but I do not fear him.
If He chooses to punish me for living my life as I find it enjoyable while attempting to bring good to other people then so be it. I hath paid the price for my life on earth.
I fear nothing, I regret nothing, and nor should you.
The world is as God wishes it to be,
I know, right? His world, His rules. He wants 99% of humanity to burn in Hell forever, in order to keep Heaven from overcrowding.
and Lucifer has proven to be a very real part of it.
Really? How so? Please do not tell me that he's been shining on the west side every evening for the past month or so and that's your proof of his existence!
No-one has always been a Christian. Many here have had particularly unusual thoughts while reading books or freaking out in mosh pits or under goodness knows what other circumstances. And with no moral compass in the unsaved condition those thoughts may have been acted upon. Hell was not created as an amusement park for deceased pagans. Satan is not there as a special treat so he has something to rule over. It is a place of torment. Molten sulphur is featured. Wailing and tooth gnashing gets mentioned in the literature.
Therefore say you felt that hanging out with a demon was your "thing" and that you'd like a demon on pitchfork duties or choosing electro-swing for the muzak system or whatever you imagine goes on. It is the demons themselves who are being tormented. They're not there to mosh off a two-step or do toast by the fire. They will be IN the fire. Any muzak will be the very worst stuff in their opinion and even if YOU'D like it be certain that what's available for you will set off a horror reaction beyond compare. Even now as you think about stuff you like most and stuff you'd rather avoid such as eating hyæna fæces or bathing in ocelot milk a catalogue is building up in your mind.
Without Jesus to wipe the slate clean, upon your demise only the very worst elements will remain. These ultimate horrors (whatever they are) will be manifest hourly as the God you mocked fulfils His promise of torment exquisitely tailored to you just as the demons inside you are the very antithesis of anything you once called delight. As they screech their disgust at everything you've become through dimensions you never knew existed your self loathing will explode, a plague of tiny mirrors reflecting the vilest beast in you, with no escape forever.
Is that a choice any sane person would make? But you're not sane, are you. And that is why you need Jesus. Only He can set you free and then like every Christian your dreams will be pure at last.
PHILIPPIANS 4:8 Whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. context..kjv
I admire your eloquent text as it gives wings to the imagination.
However it seems that you haven't yet internalized the fact that I am well aware of the torment that awaits me.
I am not expecting any parties once I arrive in hell.
This lack of moral compass you speak of however could not be so plainly described. I have a moral compass of my own. Moral compass that is shaped through freedom of will and choice. And this moral compass has chosen to obey the ten commandments from third to tenth.
I a humble man, I do not ask for everlasting paradise to myself. I respect God but I do not fear him.
If He chooses to punish me for living my life as I find it enjoyable while attempting to bring good to other people then so be it. I hath paid the price for my life on earth.
I fear nothing, I regret nothing, and nor should you.
The world is as God wishes it to be, and Lucifer has proven to be a very real part of it.
To Thomas Taylor:
I just told you that Lilith I speak of is not an owl. Perhaps the possible reference just proved to be a misconception.
Now then, I do like hunting as I like fishing. It is good to be close to the nature. Freshly caught and gutted fish with salt, cooked in smoke-can tastes wonderful.
..............I respect Lilith as her personification in the form she reveals herself to me...............................
Ok Deke,
I just told you what a Lilith is. It is an owl. A dumb animal. God in his infinite wisdom gave us dominion over them. Dumb animals don't reveal themselves to you. You have to hunt them. Thankfully we are allowed to hunt as it is allowed under secular law. I love getting that deer in my sights and then proceeding to basically cut it in half with my light 50.
Do you hunt? Maybe we could go hunting together sometime. I have Hi Vis jackets so that we will be able to see you properly while we hunt.
Genesis 27:30
“And it came to pass, as soon as Isaac had made an end of blessing Jacob, and Jacob was yet scarce gone out from the presence of Isaac his father, that Esau his brother came in from his hunting.”
No-one has always been a Christian. Many here have had particularly unusual thoughts while reading books or freaking out in mosh pits or under goodness knows what other circumstances. And with no moral compass in the unsaved condition those thoughts may have been acted upon. Hell was not created as an amusement park for deceased pagans. Satan is not there as a special treat so he has something to rule over. It is a place of torment. Molten sulphur is featured. Wailing and tooth gnashing gets mentioned in the literature.
Therefore say you felt that hanging out with a demon was your "thing" and that you'd like a demon on pitchfork duties or choosing electro-swing for the muzak system or whatever you imagine goes on. It is the demons themselves who are being tormented. They're not there to mosh off a two-step or do toast by the fire. They will be IN the fire. Any muzak will be the very worst stuff in their opinion and even if YOU'D like it be certain that what's available for you will set off a horror reaction beyond compare. Even now as you think about stuff you like most and stuff you'd rather avoid such as eating hyæna fæces or bathing in ocelot milk a catalogue is building up in your mind.
Without Jesus to wipe the slate clean, upon your demise only the very worst elements will remain. These ultimate horrors (whatever they are) will be manifest hourly as the God you mocked fulfils His promise of torment exquisitely tailored to you just as the demons inside you are the very antithesis of anything you once called delight. As they screech their disgust at everything you've become through dimensions you never knew existed your self loathing will explode, a plague of tiny mirrors reflecting the vilest beast in you, with no escape forever.
Is that a choice any sane person would make? But you're not sane, are you. And that is why you need Jesus. Only He can set you free and then like every Christian your dreams will be pure at last.
PHILIPPIANS 4:8 Whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. context..kjv
Mrs Draak, how it is to be a demon worshipper in muslim europistan?Does the sharia allow you to be of different religion?
I assume that you are a public mooselimb and a closet satanist. Is that the case?
Do you consider cool to have a made up religion? Because in my vision that is one of the most stupid things to do. Even worst than voting Hillary or read the New York Times.
Thanks very much. I appreciate your hope that I will soon be with Jesus. Maybe you will join me, who knows what may transpire?
Enough now. So apart from being a Satanist you are also an animist? "Lilith" is taken as Hebrew for Owl so by that association I will therefore accept that you worship dogs and cats as well. Do you perform sacrifices of animals and virgins? We, as Christians, do not offer up sacrifices anymore as it is against secular law. I hope you don't worship monkeys. I have an aversion to them, and they also steal anything that is not nailed down. Especially pie. Tell me, does your wife bake a tasty pie?
So, tell us all how are you finding your journey to Christ so far? I thoroughly hope you are having a good time.
God has brought you here for a reason.
Come dine with us:
Mark 2:15
“And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him.”
YIC
TT
Take me not for an animist, for I do not worship animals. I respect Lilith as her personification in the form she reveals herself to me. Sacrificing lifeforms would bring no good or joy to me either so I do not participate in such events. Also we share the common aversion towards monkeys, albeit amusing, they are not the most trustworthy creatures.
However I do find delight in depicting dragons in artworks.
And indeed the pies my lady bakes are delicious, especially the apple pies.
I've enjoyed the company in this forum so far, although my studies are keeping me from succumbing to it wholeheartedly.
It delights me greatly to hear this, I wish you well.Blah, blah.........
It seems to be a reference to her indeed,.........yap, yap, yap,yappity yap, yap............
Dear Delek,
Thanks very much. I appreciate your hope that I will soon be with Jesus. Maybe you will join me, who knows what may transpire?
Enough now. So apart from being a Satanist you are also an animist? "Lilith" is taken as Hebrew for Owl so by that association I will therefore accept that you worship dogs and cats as well. Do you perform sacrifices of animals and virgins? We, as Christians, do not offer up sacrifices anymore as it is against secular law. I hope you don't worship monkeys. I have an aversion to them, and they also steal anything that is not nailed down. Especially pie. Tell me, does your wife bake a tasty pie?
So, tell us all how are you finding your journey to Christ so far? I thoroughly hope you are having a good time.
God has brought you here for a reason.
Come dine with us:
Mark 2:15
“And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him.”
...Now on to other matters. I have looked all over for any reference to this Lilith person in the Holy Bible (KJV 1611) and find no mention but for an obscure reference in Isaiah 34 which refers to a "shrichowle" - would this be the Lilith you spoke of?
It seems to be a reference to her indeed, a good find Thomas, and although our faiths some in common, I would like to emphasize that what I believe in is not all written in scriptures that would've preserved to see this day or even included in the bible(just to avoid misunderstandings in the the future). Some of it is formed by thoughts that arise as I read the holy text and old scriptures related to it, for I am guided by the very nature of human. We are not robots who are meant to obey a code that is given like an input to a computer.
Derek is fine, sure. ..........blah, blah, blah, ............... I merely mentioned her once in the beginning of conversation and even I found that rare of me to even mention her.
I am here out of curiosity and in seek of new insights, not to pour any hatred or ill words upon you. Let us keep this civil, mm'kay?
My dearest Merek,
You must be mistaken, I bear no hatred or ill will toward anyone, least of all you. I live my life by the word of God as laid out in Perfect Clarity in the Holy Bible (KJV 1611). By following God's will, to the letter, without question or thought, I know that one day soon I will go Home to Jesus.
Now on to other matters. I have looked all over for any reference to this Lilith person in the Holy Bible (KJV 1611) and find no mention but for an obscure reference in Isaiah 34 which refers to a "shrichowle" - would this be the Lilith you spoke of?
I hope you don't mind me calling you Derek. Draak is so, how would you put it? Tawdry and unoriginal (a bit like those black metal and gothic metal groups you probably listen to).
Tell me, when did you become so engorged with hatred and bile towards God fearing Christians going about their business?
One more question, who is this Lilith person you keep rabbiting on about?
Yours wonderingly,
Thomas
Derek is fine, sure. You are entitled to find Draak tawdry and just as a side note, I do listen to metal music, but that is merely a sliver of the types of musics I listen to. My taste is wide and it also includes christian hymns you probably approve more of.
You must have read me wrong, my dear friend. I am not a hateful person or have bile towards Christians. In fact, my dearest neighbor was a devoted Christian and it was she who read bible to me when I was a young kid. You do make it seem like you have some hatred and despise towards me however and I can understand why would that be.
Lilith is the Mother of Night and allegedly the first wife of Adam who refused to submit to him. I fancy the figure for what she represents and how she came to be known as the Mother of Demons also. Although your choice of words do bemuse me as you said that I 'keep rabbiting on about' her even though I merely mentioned her once in the beginning of conversation and even I found that rare of me to even mention her.
I am here out of curiosity and in seek of new insights, not to pour any hatred or ill words upon you. Let us keep this civil, mm'kay?
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