[OneFailure]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

No, yours is. Look at Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

Infants are incapable of belief. They don't even know what the words of the Bible mean; how could they fathom the concept of being obligated to some misunderstood preacher in Iron Age Israel who got hung on a stick until He died, let alone the reasons?

Once you accept that everyone is damned from the get-go, you'll start to understand True Christianity™, which is the only way that the Bible makes sense as a whole. You have to view salvation as much like a Presidential pardon, in that you have to admit that you are guilty in order to take advantage of the "get out of Hell free" card. If you're not guilty of anything, why did Christ die for you?

Babies are incapable of sinning

[OneFailure]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

Please forgive me for choosing to trust the Bible rather than you on this issue. You can call it whatever you want, a heresy, a marshmallow, a yellow submarine, I really don't care, because I prefer to trust Jesus rather than you on this issue.

Your not trusting the bible your trusting stuff that twist scripture

[OneFailure]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

The one who'll be sorry will be you when Satan is reaming your hinie upon his piping hot tallywhack in HELL. Satan's got a big stiffy for those who misrepresent the Bible and claim fallacies truth. Repent now!

Infant damnation is a fallacy

[DolliMoans]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

Your not trusting the bible your trusting stuff that twist scripture

The kind ladies (and men) have posted exact quotes, dear! Explain what they are twisting here exactly, I'd love to learn.

[OneFailure]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

Are you now claiming that annihilations meted out to infants (or progeny of any age) are borne to punish the fathers? That suggests you believe evil.—.I assume you'd describe this as evil.—.is perpetrated by God. Where in The Bible would such an idea be supported? Perhaps you missed my earlier post:

When I suggested telling your friends where you got your information about God and the need for Redemption through Jesus Christ, it was because some of them might have read The Bible. As far as I'm aware there is no other source for the historical events described by God in The New Testament and if there's another source I don't know about I'd like you to tell me.

You see if there's a friend out there who has. read The Bible and is curious about whether you have anything to support your refutation and you can't show them anything they will think you're an idiot. I don't want them to think that so would like to read your source material; it would be inappropriate to comment further until then, on this point.

Are you saying that you want links?

[OneFailure]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

The kind ladies (and men) have posted exact quotes, dear! Explain what they are twisting here exactly, I'd love to learn.

Well for one their are all defending a calvanist belief. I could send you a link on about why calvanists are heathens but I know nobody here will believe that

Also I just posted a bunch points on why the belief isnt supported.


I would explain tonight but I dont have time maybe tomorrow I will explain it

[Dennis Lukes]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

calvanists are heathens

We already know that, pal. And we are Christians, not Calvinists. We don't follow John Calvin any more than we follow Jan Hus, Jim Jones, or Joseph Smith. We follow Jesus (Philippians 2:11).

I would explain tonight but I dont have time maybe tomorrow I will explain it

We'll all be waiting with bated breath.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

Babies are incapable of sinning

If they have no sin, they have no use for Jesus, cannot be saved by Him (see Mark 16:16), and go to Hell anyway (according to the Bible).

You want babies to go to Heaven because they're all cute and cuddly and harmless. That's nice, but IT'S NOT BIBLICAL, and thus has no place in True Christianity™.

While we're at it, NO dogs go to True Christian™ heaven (they're beasts, no souls to save). Just pre-empting there.

True Christians™ know that God (as portrayed in the Bible any Bible it's all the same Jealous) doesn't care about any sweet, cute, cuddly, fuzzy, feelgood, happy, smily, cheerful, hippy dippy crap. He wants people to fear Him, obey Him, and love Him. In that order, too. It's true: do a Bible term search for them, and you'll find that "fear God" is the most common demand, followed by "obey", and loving is last (and usually shown by fearing/obeying).

Deuteronomy 6:13 "Thou shalt fear the Lord thy God, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name."

1 Peter 2:17 "Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king."

Revelation 14:7 "Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters."

Think you're ready to be a True Christian™? Step 1 is admitting that you have no evidence that God created the universe with your interests in mind. Do that, truly, in your heart of hearts, and we can talk like adults.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

When I suggested telling your friends where you got your information about God and the need for Redemption through Jesus Christ, it was because some of them might have read The Bible. As far as I'm aware there is no other source for the historical events described by God in The New Testament and if there's another source I don't know about I'd like you to tell me.

You see if there's a friend out there who has. read The Bible and is curious about whether you have anything to support your refutation and you can't show them anything they will think you're an idiot. I don't want them to think that so would like to read your source material; it would be inappropriate to comment further until then, on this point.

Are you saying that you want links?

Wow!! At the 380th post. Yes. But not to someone else's claims or ideas.

[OneFailure]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

Well Disney finally did it. They released the trailer for Frozen 2. Get ready for the renewed annoying obsession over Let It Go where its played over the airwaves everywhere and annoying kids will be singing it on the internet and public cafes and daycare centers

My opinion:


As much as I despise Disney for their satanic agenda I will be seeing Frozen 2 I saw the first one so it wont really do any harm to me. I have the DVD of the first one anyway because it did win an academy award so.... :/


I know what your all going to say and I agree with all your talking points I despise Disney's corruptness and have nothing but contempt for them but...at the same time...why not just see the frozen sequel it will be a good excuse to eat popcorn anyway so...


After that I'll laugh and move on with my day I'll probably end up buying the DVD while shivering at the thought of giving Disney my money but whatever....


Have a nice day

[OneFailure]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

Wow!! At the 380th post. Yes. But not to someone else's claims or ideas.

This is the 380th post :/ I think we've been on this debate far to long then

[Dennis Lukes]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

This is the 380th post :/ I think we've been on this debate far to long then

Yes, it really has taken quite a shocking amount of time to pound the love of Christ into your thick skull. Do I take it you're conceding defeat?

[OneFailure]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

Yes, it really has taken quite a shocking amount of time to pound the love of Christ into your thick skull. Do I take it you're conceding defeat?

No I'm not conceding defeat I'm giving up because it's to hard to for you guys to come across reason. If you guys want to defend a belief upheld by a cult that twists scripture go right ahead.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

No I'm not conceding defeat I'm giving up because it's to hard to for you guys to come across reason. If you guys want to defend a belief upheld by a cult that twists scripture go right ahead.

While I troll through this entire thread looking for any Scripture you may have chosen to see as exclusively supporting your claim, how about addressing this:

If they [babies] have no sin, they have no use for Jesus, cannot be saved by Him (see Mark 16:16), and go to Hell anyway (according to the Bible)...

[OneFailure]

Re: Scripture denier here. La la la, I can't hear you!

While I troll through this entire thread looking for any Scripture you may have chosen to see as exclusively supporting your claim, how about addressing this:

I give up! I've posted so many messages on this I'm done