Hi, I recently joined. I am a Christian who was saved at the age of 5 as a result of a sunday school lesson. I am a sinner who has been saved by grace. I believe that Jesus died on the cross for everyone and whoever believes in Him is saved. I want to share the love of Christ with others who are lost in sin. I believe that God loves everyone (liars, cheaters, homosexuals) but he cannot tolerate sin because He is perfect. And that is why He sent Jesus, so that all of us could come to Him and so He could save us from our sin. All we need to do is ask. I know i am not perfect, but I do my best to live the way He wants me to live.
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Well, I suppose if you must start with the premise "God Loves Me No Matter What," then these mental gymnastics must be quite comforting. However, if you start with the Holy Bible and allow It to speak for Itself, you'll find the Truth™.
Anyway, do you have your husband's permission to be here?Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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Dear Sinner,Originally posted by Zaranith View PostI believe that God loves everyone (liars, cheaters, homosexuals)
What is this belief of yours based on? It apparently is not based on the Bible, as God hates some people.
Romans 9:13
As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
Malachi 1:3
And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
Proverbs 12:16-19
These six [things] doth the LORD hate: yea, seven [are] an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness [that] speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
This last quote proves that God not only hates lies but people who lie (a false witness is not some abstract kind of "sin" but a person). Do you think that the Bible has erred here? If you think so, can you provide us with a reliable method how to discern false passages from the ones that you deem correct? Thank you in advance.
Yours in Christ,
Elmer
2 Kings 18:25 - Am I now come up without the LORD against this place to destroy it? The LORD said to me, Go up against this land, and destroy it.

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Dear sinner (as we are all sinners saved by grace),Originally posted by Elmer G. White View PostDear Sinner,
What is this belief of yours based on? It apparently is not based on the Bible, as God hates some people.
Proverbs 12:16-19
These six [things] doth the LORD hate: yea, seven [are] an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness [that] speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
Yours in Christ,
Elmer
My belief is based on the Bible. As the most commonly known Bible verse says: For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life (John 3:16). And as Romans 5:8 says, “God showed His love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” These verses do not specify anybody he does not love because He died for all of us because He loves all of us.
Now looking at the last verse you mentioned in Proverbs (I think you meant Proverbs 6:16-19 and not Proverbs 12) if you read that verse carefully you will motice that verse 16 says that God hates 6 things as listed but there are 7 sins that are an abomonation which include the 6 sins listed plus false profers are an abomination to Him. Which means that a false prophet spreading lies are a abomination to him. It does not say God hates anyone.
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Umm, this is awkward but I am a guy. And my wife will not need my permission to be on a website or go amywhere.Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View PostWell, I suppose if you must start with the premise "God Loves Me No Matter What," then these mental gymnastics must be quite comforting. However, if you start with the Holy Bible and allow It to speak for Itself, you'll find the Truth™.
Anyway, do you have your husband's permission to be here?
Just curious but why did you think I was a woman?
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I refrained from posting as I too was sure your were female. You made effeminate posts and whinned lick a woman. You also clucked. Are you one of those man thong panty queersexuals?Originally posted by Zaranith View PostUmm, this is awkward but I am a guy. And my wife will not need my permission to be on a website or go amywhere.
Just curious but why did you think I was a woman?
Why do you hate your wife? Butterfaced? Excruciating voice? Inability to clean or cook steaks?Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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This is so true, those who believe can gain Salvation. Did you ever read that great Chapter of John a bit further?Originally posted by Zaranith View PostDear sinner (as we are all sinners saved by grace),
My belief is based on the Bible. As the most commonly known Bible verse says: For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life (John 3:16). And as Romans 5:8 says, “God showed His love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” These verses do not specify anybody he does not love because He died for all of us because He loves all of us.
Now looking at the last verse you mentioned in Proverbs (I think you meant Proverbs 6:16-19 and not Proverbs 12) if you read that verse carefully you will motice that verse 16 says that God hates 6 things as listed but there are 7 sins that are an abomonation which include the 6 sins listed plus false profers are an abomination to Him. Which means that a false prophet spreading lies are a abomination to him. It does not say God hates anyone.
John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Just two verses on and Jesus sends the unbelievers into Hell. Praise Him! Everyone is or has been a sinner. We also used to be sinners. Thanks to Jesus, we can no longer sin!
1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Now, did you read the verses about Esau. How can you justify that God does not express hate there. Even in the original Greek it is crystal clear:- καθάπερ γέγραπται Τὸν Ἰακὼβ ἠγάπησα, τὸν δὲ Ἠσαῦ ἐμίσησα. The verb is in aorist active indicative, 1st person singular. A direct quote from God. The dictionary form is μισέω, "hate". Don't try the "love less" ad hoc escape by some badly educated scholars. If you took that initiative, you'd get into all kinds of trouble, for instance, in John 3:20 φαῦλα πράσσων μισεῖ τὸ φῶς. The Evil would then "love the light less" but we know that He hates Jesus. If he loved light "less", he would still love Jesus, which is contradictory.
Yours in Christ,
Elmer
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Why do you have to be so sassy sir? Just because I support godly feminism does not make me less of a man. Are you so insecure of yourself that you have to call other people names?Originally posted by James Hutchins View PostI refrained from posting as I too was sure your were female. You made effeminate posts and whined like a woman. You also clucked. Are you one of those man thong panty queersexuals?
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Of course we still after being saved, are you saying you have done thing wrong after you got saved. If you are, then you are lying because that is impossible. We have been forgiven from our sins and Jesus intercedes on our behalfOriginally posted by Elmer G. White View PostThis is so true, those who believe can gain Salvation. Did you ever read that great Chapter of John a bit further?
John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Just two verses on and Jesus sends the unbelievers into Hell. Praise Him! Everyone is or has been a sinner. We also used to be sinners. Thanks to Jesus, we can no longer sin!
1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Now, did you read the verses about Esau. How can you justify that God does not express hate there. Even in the original Greek it is crystal clear:- καθάπερ γέγραπται Τὸν Ἰακὼβ ἠγάπησα, τὸν δὲ Ἠσαῦ ἐμίσησα. The verb is in aorist active indicative, 1st person singular. A direct quote from God. The dictionary form is μισέω, "hate". Don't try the "love less" ad hoc escape by some badly educated scholars. If you took that initiative, you'd get into all kinds of trouble, for instance, in John 3:20 φαῦλα πράσσων μισεῖ τὸ φῶς. The Evil would then "love the light less" but we know that He hates Jesus. If he loved light "less", he would still love Jesus, which is contradictory.
Yours in Christ,
Elmer
1 John 1:9-If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sinsand purify us from all unrighteousness.
Romans 8:34-Who is to condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died—more than that, who was raised—uwho is at the right hand of God, vwho indeed is interceding for us
1 John 2:1-My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, ywe have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.
In regards to Esau, if you look at the word hate in the original language it holds a different meaning than in english. It means that Esau was less privileged than Jacob and did not have the protection that God provided Jacob.
Could you also explain the verses you mentioned in Proverbs, because I don't believe that is a valid point.
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No where did I call you a name. You seem to be very obsessed in homosexialisim in particular with lesbianoids.Originally posted by Zaranith View PostWhy do you have to be so sassy sir? Just because I support godly feminism does not make me less of a man. Are you so insecure of yourself that you have to call other people names?
Romans 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient
This is America, Gods Favorite Country(tm), not some naked squishy free for all.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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True feminism has nothing to do with homosexuality and lesbians, it has to do with equality of men and womenOriginally posted by James Hutchins View PostNo where did I call you a name. You seem to be very obsessed in homosexialisim in particular with lesbianoids.
And you did call me names. And I quote, "You made effeminate posts and whinned lick a woman. You also clucked. Are you one of those man thong panty queersexuals?" And at the same time you are trying to put women down saying they wine. I think everyone has wined in there life.
And apparently I got an infraction from you for my posts and here is the reason:
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Reason: Being a Sassy-Mouthed Feminazi Bitch
10-30-2018 03:01 PM by James Hutchins43 / 11-09-2018 03:01 PM
Do Not Listen to Meghan...
Reason: Unsaved Trash speaking nonsense
10-28-2018 05:42 AM by Elmer G. White0 / 11-07-2018 05:42 AM
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I was right. You are suffering from 'FeminineWedgitious'.Originally posted by Zaranith View PostTrue feminism has nothing to do with homosexuality and lesbians, it has to do with equality of men and women
And you did call me names. And I quote, "You made effeminate posts and whinned lick a woman. You also clucked. Are you one of those man thong panty queersexuals?" And at the same time you are trying to put women down saying they wine. I think everyone has wined in there life.
And apparently I got an infraction from you for my posts and here is the reason:
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Reason: Being a Sassy-Mouthed Feminazi Bitch
10-30-2018 03:01 PM by James Hutchins43 / 11-09-2018 03:01 PM
Do Not Listen to Meghan...
Reason: Unsaved Trash speaking nonsense
10-28-2018 05:42 AM by Elmer G. White0 / 11-07-2018 05:42 AM
Get right with God friend. He put you women on His Earth to serve mankind.Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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You whine and fuss like a woman who is ill-trained, conditioned to believe she is no less than a man housed in a woman's body, ready and able to do all things men do, including, if she so wishes, plant her seed in a woman and beget a child. You sound like a grown child throwing a bit of a temper tantrum because Daddy won't give you the undeserved privileges you want. What Daddy failed to do, clearly, was beat you enough as a child.Originally posted by Zaranith View PostUmm, this is awkward but I am a guy. And my wife will not need my permission to be on a website or go amywhere.
Just curious but why did you think I was a woman?Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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Well said, Mrs. Etheldreda. You have a keen insight to the inner workings of the female mystique.Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View PostYou whine and fuss like a woman who is ill-trained, conditioned to believe she is no less than a man housed in a woman's body, ready and able to do all things men do, including, if she so wishes, plant her seed in a woman and beget a child. You sound like a grown child throwing a bit of a temper tantrum because Daddy won't give you the undeserved privileges you want. What Daddy failed to do, clearly, was beat you enough as a child.Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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I feel sorry for all of you. It's sad that you feel the need to belittle other people, but what you said makes not sense. Are men not allowed to have feminist views? Anyways, I will pray for you and pray that God will open your eyes to His truth.Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View PostYou whine and fuss like a woman who is ill-trained, conditioned to believe she is no less than a man housed in a woman's body, ready and able to do all things men do, including, if she so wishes, plant her seed in a woman and beget a child. You sound like a grown child throwing a bit of a temper tantrum because Daddy won't give you the undeserved privileges you want. What Daddy failed to do, clearly, was beat you enough as a child.
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