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  • MitzaLizalor
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    Re: (Jews...) Now: Peter Kropotkin's introduction thread

    Originally posted by Alejandra Larguez View Post
    You were quoting a misogynistic and disgusting proto-nazi, and yet calling yourself an anarchist.
    While using Nietsche in an argument for an anarchist in the XIX century could be thought of "cool", now you are just making yourself look like a conservative.
    Well, you ARE
    a conservative. Like Fidel Castro, Marx, Bakunin, Evo Morales and most of the left with few exceptions like Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton.
    (You left out) ………Leonid Brezhnev. On the other hand Nikita Khrushchev was addressing Stalinist "party supremacy" which emulated the papal supremacy of other Christ denying realms. He was probably not a conservative but a man in a hat always presents himself as so much more trustworthy.

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  • Dolores de Barriga
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    Re: (Jews...) Now: Peter Kropotkin's introduction thread

    Originally posted by PeterKrackpot View Post
    Actually, Nietzsche wasn’t a proto-Nazis... the Ubermensche is not a super man that Himmler especially or even Hitler understood. The ubermensche as described by Nietzsche is a person that is a keeper of a new morality that looks past Christianity and it’s weaknesses. It seeks accept the reality of existence based the notion of reality being humanist creation. That all morals and all aspects of life are human in nature. That looking to imaginary beings like god you deny your own agency.
    Hello Mr. Krackpot and welcome to this forum! I know that these Baptists here seem rough on the edges, but they can be quite nice if you are nice towards them.

    Based on your posts, you seem to have a habit of casually dropping an inflammatory statement, and when someone puts effort to rebuke your thesis, you just ignore that reply and move on to some other inflammatory statement.


    I wonder, is this something you practice in every day life, or just restricted to your online behavior?

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  • Alejandra Larguez
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    Re: (Jews...) Now: Peter Kropotkin's introduction thread

    Originally posted by PeterKrackpot View Post
    Actually, Nietzsche wasn’t a proto-Nazis... the Ubermensche is not a super man that Himmler especially or even Hitler understood. The ubermensche as described by Nietzsche is a person that is a keeper of a new morality that looks past Christianity and it’s weaknesses. It seeks accept the reality of existence based the notion of reality being humanist creation. That all morals and all aspects of life are human in nature. That looking to imaginary beings like god you deny your own agency.
    "Übermensch", please.


    Yet your Wikipedia definition is just as narrow as it could be.
    The Übermensch first of all erases women from the reality creation; second this denies your communist inclinations by negating the opposite (reality creates thinking in Marxism, Nietsche opposes that.


    There is nothing wrong with not being a Marxist, as marxism is as "macho" as any other men-created ideology. But going from "anarchism" "communism" to "nihilism" is as good a escaping from Turkey to go to Syria. You will be as oppresed as woman, if not even more.


    Why do you hate women so much? We have a say in the latino community for people like you. We call you "machirulo". Have a look, google that, and come back.

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  • PeterCrackhead
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    Re: (Jews...) Now: Peter Kropotkin's introduction thread

    Originally posted by Alejandra Larguez View Post
    You were quoting a misogynistic and disgusting proto-nazi, and yet calling yourself an anarchist.
    While using Nietsche in an argument for an anarchist in the XIX century could be thought of "cool", now you are just making yourself look like a conservative.
    Well, you ARE a conservative. Like Fidel Castro, Marx, Bakunin, Evo Morales and most of the left with few exceptions like Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton.
    Actually, Nietzsche wasn’t a proto-Nazis... the Ubermensche is not a super man that Himmler especially or even Hitler understood. The ubermensche as described by Nietzsche is a person that is a keeper of a new morality that looks past Christianity and it’s weaknesses. It seeks accept the reality of existence based the notion of reality being humanist creation. That all morals and all aspects of life are human in nature. That looking to imaginary beings like god you deny your own agency.

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  • Red Army
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    Re: (Jews...) Now: Peter Kropotkin's introduction thread

    Originally posted by PeterKrackpot View Post
    Nietzsche is more where I am coming from...
    We used to read Nietsche a lot in the early 40's. Molotov and Ribbentrop were "besties" on those days, so the government gave the people a lot of books to read, and after Trotsky's death my father did not have any desire of keeping the opposition to the regime. So he read us a bit of each book every night
    But a few years later they took the books back, told us those books were bad and were burned down.
    There is really no content on those books. Just the divagations of a bourgeois, nothing else.
    You coming from there explains a lot.

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  • Alejandra Larguez
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    Re: (Jews...) Now: Peter Kropotkin's introduction thread

    Originally posted by PeterKrackpot View Post
    Nietzsche wasn’t an anarchist. I was quoting his essence about Christianity...
    You were quoting a misogynistic and disgusting proto-nazi, and yet calling yourself an anarchist.
    While using Nietsche in an argument for an anarchist in the XIX century could be thought of "cool", now you are just making yourself look like a conservative.
    Well, you ARE a conservative. Like Fidel Castro, Marx, Bakunin, Evo Morales and most of the left with few exceptions like Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton.

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  • PeterCrackhead
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    Re: (Jews...) Now: Peter Kropotkin's introduction thread

    Originally posted by Alejandra Larguez View Post
    Nietzche was a misogynistic macho, mi amigo. You will need to advance and catch up with current anarchists. Values of the extreme left of the XIX century are now the values of the right wing.


    It doesn't surprise me at all coming from right wing Poland, though.
    Nietzsche wasn’t an anarchist. I was quoting his essence about Christianity...

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  • Alejandra Larguez
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    Re: (Jews...) Now: Peter Kropotkin's introduction thread

    Originally posted by PeterKrackpot View Post
    Nietzsche is more where I am coming from...
    Nietzche was a misogynistic macho, mi amigo. You will need to advance and catch up with current anarchists. Values of the extreme left of the XIX century are now the values of the right wing.


    It doesn't surprise me at all coming from right wing Poland, though.

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  • MitzaLizalor
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    νους


    it's out there somewhere

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  • PeterCrackhead
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    Re: (Jews...) Now: Peter Kropotkin's introduction thread

    Originally posted by Red Army View Post
    So, in spite of all the real communist bibliography, you think that choosing a religion is a matter of personal weakness. And you are strong, and that is why you do not believe in God.
    What about social structures? What about economic determination?


    Haven't you passed the first two pages of "Die deutsche Ideologie"? Really?





    See? Please, don't be such a troll, and try harder.
    Nietzsche is more where I am coming from...

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  • Red Army
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    Re: (Jews...) Now: Peter Kropotkin's introduction thread

    Originally posted by PeterKrackpot View Post
    I am not weak... I don’t need an imagery friend to be my savior...
    So, in spite of all the real communist bibliography, you think that choosing a religion is a matter of personal weakness. And you are strong, and that is why you do not believe in God.
    What about social structures? What about economic determination?


    Haven't you passed the first two pages of "Die deutsche Ideologie"? Really?


    Originally posted by Karl Marx
    Auch die Nebelbildungen im Gehirn der Menschen sind notwendige Sublimate ihres materiellen, empirisch konstatierbaren und an materielle Voraussetzungen geknüpften Lebensprozesses. Die Moral, Religion, Metaphysik und sonstige Ideologie und die ihnen entsprechenden Bewußtseinsformen behalten hier- mit nicht länger den Schein der Selbständigkeit. Sie haben keine Geschichte, sie haben keine Entwicklung, sondern die ihre materielle Produktion und ihren materiellen Verkehr entwickelnden Menschen ändern mit dieser ihrer Wirklichkeit auch ihr Denken und die Produkte ihres Denkens. Nicht das Bewußtsein bestimmt das Leben, sondern das Leben bestimmt das Bewußtsein. In der ersten Betrachtungsweise geht man von dem Bewußtsein als dem lebendigen Individuum aus, in der zweiten, dem wirklichen Leben entsprechenden, von den wirklichen lebendigen Individuen selbst und betrachtet das Bewußtsein nur als ihr Bewußtsein.

    See? Please, don't be such a troll, and try harder.

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  • PeterCrackhead
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    Re: (Jews...) Now: Peter Kropotkin's introduction thread

    Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
    (which it couldn't be)
    Deuteronomy 4:25-26b When thou shalt beget children, and children's children, and ye shall have remained long in the land, and shall corrupt yourselves, and make a graven image, or the likeness of any thing, and shall do evil in the sight of the LORD thy God, to provoke him to anger: I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day, that ye shall soon utterly perish
    Autofill on this iPad is imaginary....

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  • MitzaLizalor
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    Re: (Jews...) Now: Peter Kropotkin's introduction thread

    Originally posted by PeterKrackpot View Post
    I am not weak... I don’t need an imagery friend to be my savior...
    (which it couldn't be)
    Deuteronomy 4:25-26b When thou shalt beget children, and children's children, and ye shall have remained long in the land, and shall corrupt yourselves, and make a graven image, or the likeness of any thing, and shall do evil in the sight of the LORD thy God, to provoke him to anger: I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day, that ye shall soon utterly perish

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  • Didymus Much
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    Re: (Jews...) Now: Peter Kropotkin's introduction thread

    Originally posted by PeterKrackpot View Post
    I am not weak... I don’t need an imagery friend to be my savior...
    And if this forum was about you, that would matter, and people would give a shit.


    But it's not, so it doesn't, and nobody cares about the ignorant religious musings of some anonymous teenage rando.

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  • PeterCrackhead
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    Re: (Jews...) Now: Peter Kropotkin's introduction thread

    Originally posted by handmaiden View Post
    Yes. We are all weak. It is only God who is strong.


    2 Corinthians 12:9

    And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
    I am not weak... I don’t need an imagery friend to be my savior...

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