[MitzaLizalor]

Re: any other racists on this forum?

I thought that seemed a bit made up.

Catholics have their own Bible, some verses are more-or-less the same but others are just ludicrous. Take the example of Daniel in the lions' den. As usual the King's underlings wanted to kill off Daniel and hatched a cunning plan. Their idea was a new law under which no request could be made to any god or person other than the King himself, who was supposed to be a god, for a whole month etc., etc., and no prizes for guessing what the punishment was. Daniel continued praying to God. The underlings snuck around spying on him and reported him to the King.

DANIEL 6:14-22 Then the king, when he heard these words, was sore displeased with himself, and set his heart on Daniel to deliver him: and he laboured till the going down of the sun to deliver him ... Then the king commanded, and they brought Daniel, and cast him into the den of lions ... a stone was brought, and laid upon the mouth of the den; and the king sealed it with his own signet, and with the signet of his lords; that the purpose might not be changed concerning Daniel. Then the king went to his palace, and passed the night fasting ... Then the king arose very early in the morning, and went in haste unto the den of lions. And when he came to the den, he cried with a lamentable voice unto Daniel: and the king spake and said to Daniel, O Daniel, servant of the living God, is thy God, whom thou servest continually, able to deliver thee from the lions? Then said Daniel unto the king, O king, live for ever. My God hath sent his angel, and hath shut the lions' mouths..

There are people who say that, in fact, none of this is historical. They call it a hero legend, set in the past but mentioning real places to lend verisimilitude, yet ultimately a work of fiction. So if that's what's people think, what's to stop them making up more stories? Especially if they're living it up in great big palaces and swanning around in ridiculously overdone robes. Then there's the hats. They just can't help themselves! That Napoleon costume you're so fond of, it's nothing compared with these freaks. Even if you chose the one with real gold braid! And write more stories is exactly what they did. Never mind that they don't agree with the original. Here's two:

DANIEL IN THE LION PIT

They threw Daniel into the lion pit, and there he stayed for six days. In the pit were seven lions, which were given two human bodies and two sheep every day; but for this period they were not given anything, to make sure they would eat Daniel. Now the prophet Habakkuk was in Judaea: he had been making a stew, and breaking up bread small to put in a basket. He was on his way to the fields, taking this to the harvesters, when the angel of the Lord spoke to him, 'Take the meal you are carrying to Babylon and give it to Daniel in the lion pit'. 'Lord,' replied Habakkuk 'I have not even seen Babylon, and know nothing about this pit.' The angel of the Lord seized his head and carried him off by the hair to Babylon where, with a great thrust of his spirit, he set Habakkuk down on the edge of the pit. 'Daniel, Daniel,' Habakkuk shouted 'take the meal that God has sent you.' And Daniel said, 'You have kept me in mind, O God; you have not deserted those who love you'. Rising to his feet he ate the meal, while the angel of God lost no time in returning Habakkuk to his own country. On the seventh day the king came to lament over Daniel; on reaching the pit he looked inside, and there was Daniel, quite unperturbed.

What's all this six days? The Bible is quite clear that the king had such a sleepless night he couldn't wait to get straight down to the lions in the morning. And Habakkuk getting swooped around by the hair? Under such circumstances he wouldn't get very far before it was all pulled out by the roots! God does transport people, Philip for example, but not by jerking him up by his head. That's more like the Brothers Grimm. Previously..

DANIEL KILLS THE DRAGON

There was a big dragon in Babylon, and this was worshipped too. The king said to Daniel, 'You are not going to tell me that this is no more than bronze? Look, it is alive; it eats and drinks; you cannot deny that this is a living god; worship it, then.' Daniel replied, 'I worship the Lord my God; he is the living God. With your permission, O king, without using either sword or club I will kill this serpent.' 'You have my permission' said the king. Whereupon Daniel took some pitch, some fat and some hair and boiled them up together, rolled the mixture into balls and fed them to the dragon; the dragon swallowed them and burst. Daniel said, 'Now look at the sort of thing you worship!' The Babylonians were furious when they heard about this and began intriguing against the king. 'The king has turned Jew,' they said 'he has allowed Bel to be overthrown, and the dragon to be killed, and he has put the priests to death.' So they went to the king and said, 'Hand Daniel over to us or else we will kill you, and your family'. They pressed him so hard that the king found himself forced to hand Daniel over to them.

Well really! That sounds more like Harry Potter than Divine intervention. If the three witches from Shakespeare had concocted some such nonsense, that's about what you'd expect. But Daniel? And where did the dragon come from? Imported by the dozen from obscure African sources who had a secret cache of dinosaurs in a hidden ravine? Ultimately though, once someone's been fed lies long enough @$so-much-per-word to pay for all those robes and idiotic hats, they'll swallow anything. Popes depend on it.

https://archive.org/details/thejerusalembible1966/page/n1467/mode/1up


“DANIEL 14:23-40” N.B. The book of Daniel only has twelve chapters.

(Sometimes this is called BEL AND THE DRAGON 1:23-40 instead.)

[Petey_Peterson]

Re: any other racists on this forum?

It is so strange that people think Christians are racist? This seems to me to be some sort of atheist God-mocker, pretending to be Christian, just to make us REAL Christian look bad.


I cannot believe atheists would go for far out of their way to act this way? It beggars belief. But then they do have such sad empty empty empty pathetically empty lives without the love of sweet Baby Jesus in their hearts.

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Re: any other racists on this forum?

A sagging, obese belly is an empty life. I should know.

Ha ha fat chicks.

I cannot believe atheists would go for far out of their way to act this way? It beggars belief. But then they do have such sad empty empty empty pathetically empty lives without the love of sweet Baby Jesus in their hearts.

Friend, let me clear it up since you and Jen are having a particularly painful time understanding Jesus's policy on racism. Nobody and I mean NOBODY is allowed to talk down to the lesser races - we welcome them in fact - the jigs, the jiggaboos, jigjags, jeminas, jiggadyboos, jibbajabbas, the wogs, wops, slopes, nips, zips, chinks, chingchongs, mulattos, the Micks, the Jocks, sheepshaggers, dotheads, ragheads, nappyheads and even the Mexicans - are ALL WELCOME to receive the Lord's message. If a moderator finds that you or anyone else has been abusing their racial superiority, their posting privileges will be removed for 7 days. So think hard before stepping on THAT landmine.

[handmaiden]

Re: any other racists on this forum?

The Bible makes it very clear that we are all descended from Adam and Eve so we are all related and all sinners because of Eve's blatant disobedience. So the idea of one race being somehow lesser is wrong.

Now, down through the centuries, we see in the Bible that certain persons did some pretty bad things in The Lord's eyes. Those people incurred some additional punishments on their descendants on top of the universal curse of sin and death that Eve brought upon us all.


Just because some people are descended from certain people and have different burdens laid upon them as part of God's judgment it does make them less. It just means that they have a different set of ongoing, generational curses to deal with.


The wise, obedient person accepts this and praises God for His righteousness and mercy.

[ERvengeanceDDR5]

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wops

I am an ex wop from the black hand, but I was saved by lord jesus. Am I OK now? I need to find salvation somehow.

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Re: any other racists on this forum?

I am an ex wop from the black hand, but I was saved by lord jesus. Am I OK now? I need to find salvation somehow.

ALL WELCOME to receive the Lord's message. But you can't lay it all on Him. Have you even read the Bible? Start there and the next step might be to capitalize Jesus' name. You capitalize I well enough.

[ERvengeanceDDR5]

Re: any other racists on this forum?

ALL WELCOME to receive the Lord's message. But you can't lay it all on Him. Have you even read the Bible? Start there and the next step might be to capitalize Jesus' name. You capitalize I well enough.

Well, yes, you are right. I need to improve to show Jesus that I am worthy.

[Roland]

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I am an ex wop from the black hand, but I was saved by lord jesus. Am I OK now? I need to find salvation somehow.

At this moment you are still ´Unsaved´. I have no say in that and also no judgement as I am unsaved myself. To my best understanding you are OK now. If you want to find salvation... I can not help you with that.

[Brother Gonzalez]

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Mr,

I read you saying "I need to find salvation". The key here is the "I".


You really need to drop the "I".


It is not about you. It is about God and Jesus. What THEY need. They gave you life, so you owe them. Owe them BIG TIME.


1 Peter 5:7 - Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.



Do you want salvation? Forget about you. Start reading the Bible from beginning to end and then once again. Do everything it tells you to do. Don't forget the parts when it says you should tithe. It is VERY important.


There is no work you can do to change your fate: only your faith will save you.

[handmaiden]

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Well, yes, you are right. I need to improve to show Jesus that I am worthy.

But you aren't worthy. That's the whole point. Every human ever born has been a putrid mass of sin.

Genesis 6:12

And God looked upon the earth, and behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

Mark 7:21

For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders.

Isaiah 64:6

But we are all as an unclean thing, and all are righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.


Your only option for avoiding the horrible punishment that you deserve for being born human is to accept Jesus's pure blood offering on you behalf. Once you are covered in blood you will be clean. Then, as a cleansed soul, you need to follow the Bible in every particular and never sin again. It's so easy!


Only an all-knowing, perfect Deity could devise such a plan.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: any other racists on this forum?

Napoleon is a good example here.

Napoleon² was not irreligious in the ordinary sense of the word. He would not admit that there had ever existed a genuine atheist; he condemned Deism as the result of rash speculation. A Christian and a Catholic, he recognized in religion alone the right to govern human societies . . . Personally indifferent to religious practices, he respected them too much to permit the slightest ridicule of those who followed them.

The above suggests a lapsed catholic, albeit one who endorsed Rome as the acme of social hierarchies, and who may have returned to its dogma when isolated by the English in later years. He is not contemned because he is French but because he preferred physics over God.

“Many stellar names in physics and the rest were participants in the great [revolution], while several of those remembered as statesmen and grandees spent a good part of their time at the laboratory bench,” he⁴ writes. “Together they built a new world.”

Napoleon was a huge part of that new world.

It is not impossible for a Frenchman to be a Christian but clearly Napoleon is not one of them. Propositions denying God are nothing new.

Twenty-five hundred years ago there were ideas challenging God, ideas about chemistry or particle physics, ideas very difficult to dislodge as it turned out. Eventually though, God prevailed and for a millennium things were run by Christian leaders – even if there were heretics (and there were) or frequent incursions by savage heathens, investigations of the world using physics were prevented. One day that all changed. Ancient writings were rediscovered and once again God came under attack, picking up as it happens almost exactly where the assault left off. It was that challenge that Napoleon endorsed. How he saw religious practice is immaterial just as his being French is immaterial. Napoleon challenged God.

The Bible makes it very clear that we are all descended from Adam and Eve so we are all related and all sinners because of Eve's blatant disobedience. So the idea of one race being somehow lesser is wrong.

So many ludicrous attempts being made in the world today to challenge not only God but education, agriculture, geography, even the cars we drive and the very air we breathe – all descended from that first challenge to following God's way. How we should respond to this latest assault, seeking as it must to turn back the clock by any means possible, has nothing to do with personal characteristics but has everything to do with God.



1. https://praguecircle.wordpress.com/2...ich-winneburg/

2. https://revolution.chnm.org/d/505/

3. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...nce-180964485/

4. ibid. paragraph 2

5. https://www.landoverbaptist.net/show...87#post1293887

[Dennis Lukes]

Re: any other racists on this forum?

But you aren't worthy. That's the whole point. Every human ever born has been a putrid mass of sin.

As a father who had to listen to my wife complain about changing the diapers of our five children, it warms my heart to know that there are NO babies in Heaven but hundreds of millions in Hell.

[handmaiden]

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At least I agree with you on something. Children suck! The number of kids that come into my work throwing books everywhere and their clueless parents asking me to check for a title on stock and I tell them to check Amoxon, it makes me want to crawl into a hole, do yeah. Kids, they can go to Hell. Babies too, because annoying babies become annoying kids, right?

Children need not be annoying if they are properly disciplined. It is the parents who fail to do so who are annoying.