[Vengeance Puriel]

Re: Hello from kentucky...

I get my information from the Bible the same as everyone, but apparently, some people tend to interpret it differently.


Sometimes bad things happen to good people. And sometimes we may think it's a punishment because of something we, or someone else did, but that's not always the case.


Someone might think how bad it is that their car wouldn't start and think that God is punishing them, but it could be that God kept the car from starting to keep the person out of a horrible wreck on the Interstate.


I don't know where you got that I was upset when someone mentioned fursuits. I found the picture rather cool. They weren't colors I would have picked for mine though. Too loud.


There are a lot worse things that people could wear besides fursuits. I've seen five-year-old girls that looked like little tramps and their mothers didn't look much better.

This Church and its members follow the KJV 1611 Bible to the letter, cover to cover old and new 100%.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Hello from kentucky...

Hi, I just joined this forum, nice to meet you here, my name is Tom Murray...

Sorry, I only click on ads for expired spermicidal ointments in foreign languages.

[pyceullivan]

Re: Hello from kentucky...

Hi, I just joined this forum, nice to meet you here, my name is Tom Murray https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/

[Vengeance Puriel]

Re: Hello from kentucky...

Oh, I don't know about that.



I don't know how you came to that conclusion.

I do, and we follow it word for word, cover to cover, every dot and Tithel. ( not sure how that’s spelled)

We do exactly as our lord Jesus has commanded. As noted in John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Hello from kentucky...

Sorry to disappoint you, but you haven't changed my mind.


I don't have any idea of what goes on in my coworker's heads. Or anybody's heads.


If a coworker came in wearing a slutty skirt, she might have worn it not realizing how slutty it looked.


Or the skirt might have been a gift she wanted to try out, again, not knowing how slutty it looked.


Or she might not have had anything else to wear because they were in the wash and had to borrow something of her slutty neighbors.

You seem to have overlooked the obvious reason. Try it in a different setting.

If a coworker came in wearing whatever that outfit is called, he might have worn it not realizing what it looked like.


Or it might have been a gift he wanted to try out, again, not knowing how stylish it looked.


Or he might not have had anything else to wear because they were in the wash and had to borrow something of his aristocratic neighbors.

You see, I don't think any of those are very likely. Maybe on a list of a hundred reasons they could turn up somewhere in the eighties. Pretty much, in either case, I'd opt for reason Nº1 and stop thinking about it. Or more probably not think about it the first place.

There's a similar question when considering what Jesus taught. Lists have been compiled to explain why we have the account we do, not only of words attributed to Christ but documenting many examples for us to consider. New Testament authors are certain that earlier examples—from the time of the Judges or relating to Daniel, say—remain valuable.

Reading through what you've posted, there seems to be a Christ figure in your thoughts but rather different from what is recorded in The Bible. It's a bit like that suit, or the dress you mentioned, which looks very smart (or alluring, as the case may be) but the real question to ask is, “Who's wearing them?” Everything you've written is easy to understand and I have a good idea of the Jesus you admire. Perhaps we've had different experiences and have encountered Scripture in different circumstances, and that could explain different understandings of its significance, but the Jesus you present is not the same as Jesus in The Bible. To continue with the example, not only is He wearing different clothes (our experiences) but is a different person. Too many things recorded in The New Testament would never be attributed to your Jesus.

Then the question changes. In your opinion, who is the guy in The Bible?

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: Hello from kentucky...

Oh, I don't know about that.
I don't know how you came to that conclusion.

It's nice that you are here, Shadoe. But you are trying hold your own against world authorities on sin and the Bible. If I could be so bold as to paraphrase your version of Christianity it would be, sin is not that big a deal. A little sin won't hurt a thing. With this Bible thingy, don't take it too seriously. Change what it means to suit yourself.

This is exactly the opposite of a True Christian™. Every sin is a nail in your eternity. Jesus loves Landover Baptist Church and He dislikes those who criticize it and argue with its highly accomplished Bible authorities.

It's the moment of your life when you can save yourself from an eternity in the fire.

[Roland]

Re: Hello from kentucky...

Oh, I don't know about that.

That is OK. Maybe you should talk about things you do know about. Do you have pets?

[handmaiden]

Re: Hello from kentucky...

What is right may be wrong in someone else's eyes, or what's wrong might be right in someone else's point of view.

Here is another Bible verse that illustrates what is wrong with your statement. I actually used it elsewhere in a discussion regarding a different subject. You won't encounter it there, because you have no interest in tackling the many challenges that faith presents to the contemporary Believer; not as long as you can find comfort for your own narrow vision of Christianity.

Proverbs 14:12

There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

That's why I don't really care what some people think about what I've said. I'm not going to change my mind anymore than I can change theirs.

And yet you keep coming back here to argue about what we have to say about the Bible. Why would you care if you are so tolerant about different perspectives? If our way of being "right" is just as good as your way of being "right", shouldn't you be off somewhere enjoying your cuddly blanket existence? The fact that there are people willing to embrace a more rigorous Christianity shouldn't bother you.

[handmaiden]

Re: Hello from kentucky...

Oh, I don't know about that.

Ah, so you "don't know" that we know the Bible. And yet over and over, we brings its words to bear. While you bring the Bible to bear about 15% of the time, and your own words, thoughts and opinions about God and the Bible the remaining 85% of the time.

I don't know how you came to that conclusion.

If you felt victorious in any of your battles, you might have branched out to discuss the other and varied subjects we touch upon throughout this website. But you haven't gathered the motivation or confidence to weigh in on our threads dealing with slavery, genocide, rape, intermarriage, wearing clothes made from different fibers, or really anything that God cares about because He made a clear effort to instruct us through His word.

All you keep discussing is about judging and whether we should be accepting people's peculiar costuming choices. It's all you, you, you, what you think the Bible says and how it touches on your immediate interests in your unremarkable life.

If you have been read the Bible for so long, why don't you engage in an examination of some of its other stories of faith in action? Why not declare yourself on other issues the Bible discusses and use the Bible to back up those assertions?

I'm beginning to think that you don't even care about who God wants us to kill on His behalf or how Godly men should conduct themselves when they capture a young woman in battle. Doesn't it bother you to see God being replaced in our schools? Is anything more important to you than judging us on whether we are judging correctly?

[Basilissa]

Re: Hello from kentucky...

John 7:24 KJVS [24] Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. The Bible says when we judge ourselves and our neighbors our judgment must be in righteousness. Not what I heard from someone else about that person or what I think, but rather moral truth.

Moral truth is basically what is right and what is wrong,

Indeed. And the Bible tells us what is right and what is wrong, so we can judge others based on whether they live accordingly to the Commandments of God or not.

What is right may be wrong in someone else's eyes, or what's wrong might be right in someone else's point of view.

And to avoid that confusion, we Christians look to the Bible to see what is wrong from God's point of view. This is the fundamental difference between morality and ethics.

Ethics stem from social contract: the rules of appropriate behavior that are agreed upon by a group of people, therefore changing from culture to culture (while going naked on the streets is seen as inappropriate in our culture, it is totally appropriate among the Mekranoti of the Amazon) or even generation to generation (e.g. jokes that were considered fine a generation ago today are insensitive, inappropriate, racist, sexist, etc, etc).

Thus, ethics are multiple, unstable, and unreliable. In contrast, morality is single, unchanging and trustworthy (duh, it comes from God!). It is based on God's Teachings written in the Holy Bible. Morality does not change from one generation to another, nor varies between cultures: every person of every time and every culture is measured by the same stick. The Holy Bible contains all of the moral rules that as Christians we need to obey.


P.S.: Please stop with the incessant copy-pasta, because it messes up reply formatting.

[Shadoe_Hare]

Re: Hello from kentucky...

and we KNOW the Bible.

Oh, I don't know about that.

attempting to win a battle that you have already lost multiple times, wielding your ineffective weapon of, "I said so."

I don't know how you came to that conclusion.

[Shadoe_Hare]

Re: Hello from kentucky...

Let's see.. since your arrival at Landover, you've moved from "no judging" to "sometimes it's ok if it's by the Bible".


Your mind is already changing, because you're reading actual Scripture, instead of somebody trying to convince you of what it "really means". This is good.

My mind hasn't changed, and I've been reading the Bible since elementary school.


I'm not sure where you got "no judging to sometimes it's okay."


James 4:12


There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the One who is able to save and to destroy; but who are you who judge your neighbor?





We can judge yes, but only righteously, meaning not appearances but from what's morally right from wrong.


Jesus said if we judge with aggression, then we can expect to be judged with aggression. We are supposed to judge others carefully and lovingly; we just need to make sure we’re also carefully judging ourselves. Even though we remove the plank in our eye, Jesus still says we must remove the speck in our brother’s.

[Shadoe_Hare]

Re: Hello from kentucky...

I can help change your mind.


Think of it like this. When your coworker comes into work wearing a slutty skirt that you know is just trying to put moves on the customers, are you wrong in judgement to call her a whore? You are not judging on her appearance per say, you are making an intuitive and moral judgement on her intent. And that is that inner feeling that tells you, "I know what she is up to."

Sorry to disappoint you, but you haven't changed my mind.


I don't have any idea of what goes on in my coworker's heads. Or anybody's heads.


If a coworker came in wearing a slutty skirt, she might have worn it not realizing how slutty it looked.


Or the skirt might have been a gift she wanted to try out, again, not knowing how slutty it looked.


Or she might not have had anything else to wear because they were in the wash and had to borrow something of her slutty neighbors.

[handmaiden]

Re: Hello from kentucky...

John 7:24 KJVS [24]


Moral truth is basically what is right and what is wrong, and how we live in our relationship with not only God but other people, especially compassion and justice for the poor.

What is right may be wrong in someone else's eyes, or what's wrong might be right in someone else's point of view.

That's why I don't really care what some people think about what I've said. I'm not going to change my mind anymore than I can change theirs.

One of these statements is very definitive, and the other is not. "Moral truth is basically what is right and what is wrong." and also, "Your mileage may vary and everybody gets to cobble together their own ideas on what is right or wrong."

And we don't care what you happen to think about us, either. We have the Bible, we've read the Bible, and we KNOW the Bible.

You "basically" know what feels good and right to you, and you cherry-pick the Bible to support your views on Hippy Jesus who wants you to be happy. Your lack of dedication and True Discernment® on the nature of God and what it means to follow Him perplexes me a bit, but I am impressed by your stubborn determination in returning here again and again, attempting to win a battle that you have already lost multiple times, wielding your ineffective weapon of, "I said so."


God's Fiery Sword of Truth will always trump the wishful ramblings of a lukewarm believer. If it did not, then He wouldn't be much of a deity, would He?

[Didymus Much]

Re: Hello from kentucky...

...I'm not going to change my mind anymore than I can change theirs...

Let's see.. since your arrival at Landover, you've moved from "no judging" to "sometimes it's ok if it's by the Bible".


Your mind is already changing, because you're reading actual Scripture, instead of somebody trying to convince you of what it "really means". This is good.