Greetings

[Patriarch Jon]

I was raised as and eastern, Byzantine Christian and spent much of my early years learning from the bible translated from the old Greek bibles. Over the years I lost my way and although never losing my belief in a Creator I spent much of my adult years drifting along a secular path.

Over the past few years I've been insprired to learn the origin of the Christian faith and have learned much about what has happened since the first few centuries, much of it not good, nor the work as Christ intended.

I've developed a great distrust for the RCC having started the split that has fragmented Chrsitianity into the fragemnts we find today. With each subsequent fraction we have dimisnished the church of christ.

...I don't profess to follow the path that much of you bear testament to, but I do seek to rediscover the words of Christ. My mission in life is to try to open peaceful and respectful dialog as part of my path of rediscovery, not of multiple false faiths, but of the old church that Christ founded, but which has been corrupted through ignorance and misdeeds.

Bear with me as I question, my intent is to explore, to be inspired and to inspire others. Not all of us that question are motivated by ill intent, some of us have received inspiration to rediscover what was lost.

So when I ask why KJV, it is not intended to deny the words that are theri, but to ask whether there is even more that can be found and learned that once was lost. Why not look deeper into the teavhings of Peter and Paul, the faith of John, the honest questioning of Thomas, the servitude of the Mary's and all that we can learn from the early disciples ?

[Brother Lazarus]

Re: Greetings

I was raised as and eastern, Byzantine Christian and spent much of my early years learning from the bible translated from the old Greek bibles. Over the years I lost my way and although never losing my belief in a Creator I spent much of my adult years drifting along a secular path.

Over the past few years I've been insprired to learn the origin of the Christian faith and have learned much about what has happened since the first few centuries, much of it not good, nor the work as Christ intended.

I've developed a great distrust for the RCC having started the split that has fragmented Chrsitianity into the fragemnts we find today. With each subsequent fraction we have dimisnished the church of christ.

...I don't profess to follow the path that much of you bear testament to, but I do seek to rediscover the words of Christ. My mission in life is to try to open peaceful and respectful dialog as part of my path of rediscovery, not of multiple false faiths, but of the old church that Christ founded, but which has been corrupted through ignorance and misdeeds.

Bear with me as I question, my intent is to explore, to be inspired and to inspire others. Not all of us that question are motivated by ill intent, some of us have received inspiration to rediscover what was lost.

So when I ask why KJV, it is not intended to deny the words that are theri, but to ask whether there is even more that can be found and learned that once was lost. Why not look deeper into the teavhings of Peter and Paul, the faith of John, the honest questioning of Thomas, the servitude of the Mary's and all that we can learn from the early disciples ?

Welcome to God's favorite forum where proper spelling, grammar, punctuation, and sentence structure are always appreciated.

Your introductions give me the impression that your are some sort of mystic seeker or something. Your "search" can end quickly with the purchase of an AV 1611 Bible. Everything in there is all you need to know.

Have you tithed yet?

Yours in Christ
Brother Lazarus

[Patriarch Jon]

Re: Greetings

Not a mystic seeker at all, that was when I was younger. I seek to find all I can learn from Christianity.

I have a KJV1611 bible, and that is one of the points I wish to respectfully discuss in my search. I believe the bible taught by the eastern churches, taken directly from the old Greek, that I read in my youth is closer to the truth than even the KJV1611, and certainly more accurate than the RCC versions.

I am here to discuss and learn. Whether there are others who will engage in that discussion is not yet clear.

[Brother Lazarus]

Re: Greetings

Not a mystic seeker at all, that was when I was younger. I seek to find all I can learn from Christianity.

I have a KJV1611 bible, and that is one of the points I wish to respectfully discuss in my search. I believe the bible taught by the eastern churches, taken directly from the old Greek, that I read in my youth is closer to the truth than even the KJV1611, and certainly more accurate than the RCC versions.

I am here to discuss and learn. Whether there are others who will engage in that discussion is not yet clear.

A quick intro on origins of the AV 1611.

The two most widely used translations of Hebrew to Greek of the Old Testament or Tanakh are the Masoretric Text and the Septuagint. The Septuagint translation from Hebrew to Greek was done by Greeks in the period of 356 - 323 BC. The Masoretic Text is a translation of the Tanakh from Hebrew to Greek by Hebrews (the Masoretes) in the period between the 7th and 11th century AD.

The Masoretes were know for the exactness of their translations. The Old Testament of the AV 1611 King James Version is translated from the Masoretic Texts which is certainly a superior translation to the Septuagint. If fact, the Septuagint mysteriously has four extra books. These "extras" are known as the Apocrypha and appear as an addendum in many King James 1611 editions.

Most Catholic translations use the inferior Septuagint.

The New Testament in the AV 1611 is translated from the Textus Receptus, the collection of Greek manuscripts which were generally accepted Christian canon.

Landover Baptist considers the AV 1611 to be the only correct English translation, authorized by God Himself.

Hope that helps.

Yours in Christ
Brother Lazarus