[Tar Heel Sk8tr]

Re: Knowing God through Jesus

This is a perfect example of misuse of scripture. You didn't quote the entire thought.

Alright, so would you prefer me to say:

"You are an idiotic hypocrite. You are the scum of satan because you burn your neighbors with the fire of your tongue and you condemn those who disagree with you, blotting them out as if they were demons. You are so filled with hate that it has blinded you to the truth and destroyed your relationship with God."

OR

"I am saddened by your approach to spreading the gospel. The people listening to you have hatred and anger in their hearts because of your words. I believe that God is guiding us every day to treat others with love and compassion. Yes, the way is hard and most are afraid to follow, but we can share that with them in a meaningful way that will help them see the truth."

I am under the impression that your ministry is built around the first option. Does that make me "soft" or "false"? Do you believe in a merciful God? One who loves His children so much that He sent His Son to die for us, so that we could be closer to Him? What if God's love IS the conquering sword in the face of the adversary. His message of hope and truth is not soft, it is bold and unconventional. What if God's idea of being "straight" and "forward" and "bold" is different than yours?

[Tar Heel Sk8tr]

Re: Knowing God through Jesus

John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

Do you mean to say that all of those hateful words I listed from your forums are God's words?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Knowing God through Jesus

Your church, the Landover Baptist Church, is filled with people who are constantly using words like:

So if a few people on the internet create an account and post bad things, it is my fault?

1 "hateful feminazi harlot"
2 "unsaved trash"
3 "kweers"
4 "infidel"
5 "unsaved scum"
6 "wack job"
7 "trolls"

1 Harlot
2 Unrepented sinner
3 Not sure
4 Cuban?
5 Unrepented Sinner and one who appears they will never repent
6 Lunatic - They are all over the web
7 People who come here with the sole purpose of making trouble

Do you believe that I am unsaved trash? What does it mean to be a "True Christian"?

I do not know you yet, though you seem to have a chip on your shoulder and be pretty argumentative. I am a True Christian™, I have proven my devotion to God here, you have not yet. Instead of accusing me, you should be thankful to be here and seek guidance instead of being accusatory and spiteful. You might want to think about it.

[Vavoline Johnson]

Re: Knowing God through Jesus

I've read everything that has been written for the "noobs" of this forum.

I guess the majority of my concern rests in the fact that your approach to spreading the gospel is one of negativity through rebuking the unbelievers, where mine is to love them and show them the truth through Christ's teachings; sharing God with them through the life I live.

Why am I wrong?

Cause you be tryin to be Godly the wrong way, thats why.

[Brother Lazarus]

Re: Knowing God through Jesus

Your church, the Landover Baptist Church, is filled with people who are constantly using words like:

"hateful feminazi harlot"

A feminazi is a woman who ignores her place as defined in the Bible. Try 1 Timothy for starters.

"unsaved trash"

A full explanation of this was given in the Pastors Rules and Announcements. But, we get trolls. Once a poster has shown to not be a troll, the label is removed. But also consider, anyone not Saved is going to Hell. Does that not make the Hellbound, "trash"?

"kweers"

The Bible clearly states that homosexuals are going to Hell. "Kweers" is a rebuke, intended to help someone realize that if they are a homosexual they are Hellbound and need to get Saved. I'm sure you can look up the verses.

"infidel" "unsaved scum" "wack job"

See "unsaved trash".

"trolls"

Hopefully not a definition of you!

Supposedly for the purpose of spreading Christ's gospel.

Indeed, it is for that purpose. Virtually everything we teach can be backed up in Scripture.

Do you believe that I am unsaved trash?

If you have not been Bathed in the Blood of the Lamb, you are unsaved trash. It is impossible to be Saved if you do not believe the Bible in it's entirety.

What does it mean to be a "True Christian"?

It means to be Saved.

Yours in Christ
Brother Lazarus

[Tar Heel Sk8tr]

Re: Knowing God through Jesus

So if a few people on the internet create an account and post bad things, it is my fault?


1 Harlot
2 Unrepented sinner
3 Not sure
4 Cuban?
5 Unrepented Sinner and one who appears they will never repent
6 Lunatic - They are all over the web
7 People who come here with the sole purpose of making trouble



I do not know you yet, though you seem to have a chip on your shoulder and be pretty argumentative. I am a True Christian™, I have proven my devotion to God here, you have not yet. Instead of accusing me, you should be thankful to be here and seek guidance instead of being accusatory and spiteful. You might want to think about it.

I am not trying to be accusatory and spiteful. Those are words from your fellow "True Christians" not just random people who created accounts. I am observing the fact that people hate your church because of the way you position yourselves to the world. I do not hate you. I do not accuse you. I am saddened and praying for you.

Why do you believe that I am not devoted to God? I am not understanding what it is about your faith that leads you to believe that I am not saved, that I am not a true follower of Christ, that I am not living in the presence of God right now as I type?

Am I going to hell? Why are you so different than me? This still has not been explained.

[Tar Heel Sk8tr]

Re: Knowing God through Jesus

I have been baptized. I have accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior. I believe the bible is the inspired Word of God.

Am I going to hell because I am not a member of LBC and I don't use hate-speech? Is that what all of this is about?

[Brother Lazarus]

Re: Knowing God through Jesus

Alright, so would you prefer me to say:

"You are an idiotic hypocrite. You are the scum of satan because you burn your neighbors with the fire of your tongue and you condemn those who disagree with you, blotting them out as if they were demons. You are so filled with hate that it has blinded you to the truth and destroyed your relationship with God."

OR

"I am saddened by your approach to spreading the gospel. The people listening to you have hatred and anger in their hearts because of your words. I believe that God is guiding us every day to treat others with love and compassion. Yes, the way is hard and most are afraid to follow, but we can share that with them in a meaningful way that will help them see the truth."

I am under the impression that your ministry is built around the first option. Does that make me "soft" or "false"? Do you believe in a merciful God? One who loves His children so much that He sent His Son to die for us, so that we could be closer to Him? What if God's love IS the conquering sword in the face of the adversary. His message of hope and truth is not soft, it is bold and unconventional. What if God's idea of being "straight" and "forward" and "bold" is different than yours?

I would prefer you to quote scripture in context. God's ideas are clearly laid out in the Bible. Do you think God wrote the entire Bible just so you can pick and choose the parts you like? Why would God put anything in the Bible that He does not intend for you to believe?

The Bible is tough love. There are only two choices, Heaven, or Hell. The Bible is VERY clear on what will send you to Hell. It's also quite clear that you MUST accept Jesus to be Saved. Keep in mind, Jesus did NOT do away with the Old Testament. The only things He specifically did away with were the requirements for animal sacrifice. (He made the ultimate sacrifice), the Old Testament dietary rules, the day of worship, and the observance of Hebrew Holy days.

Yours in Christ
Brother Lazarus

[James Hutchins]

Re: Knowing God through Jesus

I am not trying to be accusatory and spiteful. Those are words from your fellow "True Christians" not just random people who created accounts. I am observing the fact that people hate your church because of the way you position yourselves to the world. I do not hate you. I do not accuse you. I am saddened and praying for you.

You certainly appear to be accusatory but, it does not affect me because I am a True Christian and I know it cannot be directed at me. Now do you see, if you heart and mind is pure, those words mean nothing, only the words of God shall steer my life. Do you see the point I have been making? Do not focus on the words but rather focus on the message.

Why do you believe that I am not devoted to God? I am not understanding what it is about your faith that leads you to believe that I am not saved, that I am not a true follower of Christ, that I am not living in the presence of God right now as I type?

Am I going to hell? Why are you so different than me? This still has not been explained.

I have no idea if you are devoted or not. You have made around ten posts so far. If you had made 200, and I knew you, you had accepted a Pastor to provide spiritual guidance, perhaps got involved in the Church, then I would know your true intentions as would the Pastors. But at the moment, you are still a stranger to me and I have been burnt by many strangers on the Internet so I am leery. I am sure you understand.

[Brother Lazarus]

Re: Knowing God through Jesus

I have been baptized. I have accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior. I believe the bible is the inspired Word of God.

Am I going to hell because I am not a member of LBC and I don't use hate-speech? Is that what all of this is about?

If you had read my earlier posts, I told you what is required of you to be Saved. I did not note that it is required to be a member of this Church.

There is no deliberate hate speech. Sometimes when people get really full of Jesus, they do go overboard. The Pastors do give private rebukes as necessary. But, in essence, everything that is said here can be backed up by scripture.

As for the status of your soul? That is between you and Jesus. I've merely outlined the rules.

Yours in Christ
Brother Lazarus

[Tar Heel Sk8tr]

Re: Knowing God through Jesus

You certainly appear to be accusatory but, it does not affect me because I am a True Christian and I know it cannot be directed at me. Now do you see, if you heart and mind is pure, those words mean nothing, only the words of God shall steer my life. Do you see the point I have been making? Do not focus on the words but rather focus on the message.


I have no idea if you are devoted or not. You have made around ten posts so far. If you had made 200, and I knew you, you had accepted a Pastor to provide spiritual guidance, perhaps got involved in the Church, then I would know your true intentions as would the Pastors. But at the moment, you are still a stranger to me and I have been burnt by many strangers on the Internet so I am leery. I am sure you understand.

Okay, so you'll have to trust me when I say this. I have accepted Jesus Christ and I look to God for guidance through Him. Pastors are generally wonderful people who have sacrificed a great deal of their time to preach the gospel within a community of believers, I love the pastor of my church and I seek his guidance -- but ultimately I understand that perfect guidance comes from God. My true and only intentions in this world are to live faithful to Christ's teachings, live in God's presence continually, and share His gospel with anyone and everyone.

[Tar Heel Sk8tr]

Re: Knowing God through Jesus

If you had read my earlier posts, I told you what is required of you to be Saved. I did not note that it is required to be a member of this Church.

There is no deliberate hate speech. Sometimes when people get really full of Jesus, they do go overboard. The Pastors do give private rebukes as necessary. But, in essence, everything that is said here can be backed up by scripture.

As for the status of your soul? That is between you and Jesus. I've merely outlined the rules.

Yours in Christ
Brother Lazarus

Now we're beginning to reach an understanding. I had been led to believe that LBC believed that only members of their church could be saved. I still disagree with the amount of rebuking and hate speech (deliberate or otherwise) that I've seen and heard from the members of LBC, but I understand you.

[Brother Lazarus]

Re: Knowing God through Jesus

Okay, so you'll have to trust me when I say this. I have accepted Jesus Christ and I look to God for guidance through Him. Pastors are generally wonderful people who have sacrificed a great deal of their time to preach the gospel within a community of believers, I love the pastor of my church and I seek his guidance -- but ultimately I understand that perfect guidance comes from God. My true and only intentions in this world are to live faithful to Christ's teachings, live in God's presence continually, and share His gospel with anyone and everyone.

So where do you go to Church? What are some of your favorite Bible verses? Keep in mind we only use the A.V. 1611 King James Bible.

How do you generally go about sharing His Gospel?

Yours in Christ
Brother Lazarus

[James Hutchins]

Re: Knowing God through Jesus

You did not seem to get the point I was making in my first paragraph. Or in your silence you are in agreement?


Friend, I am merely a True Christian. I am not a Pastor. I'll take at your word, as I do with everyone. But as Brother Lazarus stated, it really is between you and God. But a Pastor helps ensure you are on the right track.

[Brother Lazarus]

Re: Knowing God through Jesus

Now we're beginning to reach an understanding. I had been led to believe that LBC believed that only members of their church could be saved. I still disagree with the amount of rebuking and hate speech (deliberate or otherwise) that I've seen and heard from the members of LBC, but I understand you.

Since you have read the Bible, you know that Jesus gave many loving sermons. He was also, very often, rebuking. Would you have us do otherwise? Would you not have us point out sins that will result in eternal damnation? Would you have us be gentle when a soul is a stake? No, we care so much we are willing to give the tough love necessary to get a sinner's attention.

Is it hate speech to call out a homosexual? The Bible clearly states that this sin will be punished with eternal damnation. We do raise our voices to these people in hopes they will not only hear, but listen. That isn't hate speech, it is love speech.

Yours in Christ
Brother Lazarus