The basics of theology

[MindlessFool]

The basics of theology state that it is impossible for the human mind to comprehend an omnipotent being due to any thought or label applied would create a paradox of impurity versus omnipotence.
It is therefor impossible for any non-omnipotent being to apply any label, description or understanding to anything all-powerful due to contradiction that would ensue.
It is therefor equally correct to state that there is anywhere between 0 and infinite "Gods" or omnipotent beings as it is to say there is 1. It is also equally correct to say that any one or more of those Gods is female as it is to say it is male or asexual. It is such that proves that any label or thought applied to any omnipotent being by a creature capable of thought, sentient or otherwise, is nothing more than an opinion or guess.

Friendly Agnostic.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: The basics of theology

Do you have any Scripture to back up these ridiculous claims?

[MindlessFool]

Re: The basics of theology

Do you have any Scripture to back up these ridiculous claims?

The basics of theology render any and all scripture opinion, educated guess at best. It is by definition impossible to comprehend an omnipotent being. To say otherwise is to assume that you yourself are in fact, omnipotent, and as such are capable of any thought and comprehension including that of other omnipotent beings.

To understand your "God" you must be your "God", and I'm making an educated guess that if you were, I wouldn't be breathing right now.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: The basics of theology

The basics of theology render any and all scripture opinion, educated guess at best.

I find it interesting that you seem to think that there is one unified message called "theology" that all teach the same thing.

[MindlessFool]

Re: The basics of theology

Theology is the study of religions in all forms, this includes practices, beliefs, thought, symbols, sacred people and places, scriptures, practices etc.

It is not a beliefs system but a study of belief systems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theology gives a basic run down on the topic.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: The basics of theology

Theology is the study of religions in all forms, this includes practices, beliefs, thought, symbols, sacred people and places, scriptures, practices etc.

It is not a beliefs system but a study of belief systems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theology gives a basic run down on the topic.

Precisely.

That's why you telling us what "theology" teaches makes no sense - there is no central doctrine of theology, and certainly no agreement on the nonsense you are spouting off as fact.

[MindlessFool]

Re: The basics of theology

Precisely.

That's why you telling us what "theology" teaches makes no sense - there is no central doctrine of theology, and certainly no agreement on the nonsense you are spouting off as fact.

As with any science theology is only a series of approximations attempting to grow ever closer to fact. Theology takes a scientific and practiced approach to finding out the truths and lies of a deity and is by far the most accurate way to determine religious truth as it is unbiased by avoiding those with a vested interest in the outcome of the results. My argument is significantly more valid on the grounds that I don't care for the outcome of religious scrutiny, only that the truth be revealed. On the other hand, you, a practicing theist will always strive for results which prove your "God" to be true. Due to this fact any understandings reached by you (or any biased party involved) should be discounted on the grounds that during the investigation phase evidence may have been ignored or included unfairly which impacted on the result.

Now we are just going back to the basics of the human learning process. Shall I explain the wheel next?

[Meek and Humble]

Re: The basics of theology

As with any science theology is only a series of approximations attempting to grow ever closer to fact. Theology takes a scientific and practiced approach to finding out the truths and lies of a deity and is by far the most accurate way to determine religious truth as it is unbiased by avoiding those with a vested interest in the outcome of the results. My argument is significantly more valid on the grounds that I don't care for the outcome of religious scrutiny, only that the truth be revealed. On the other hand, you, a practicing theist will always strive for results which prove your "God" to be true. Due to this fact any understandings reached by you (or any biased party involved) should be discounted on the grounds that during the investigation phase evidence may have been ignored or included unfairly which impacted on the result.

Now we are just going back to the basics of the human learning process. Shall I explain the wheel next?

I fail to see in your definition of theology, or in the link you provided me, where it says that all theologians share the same basic precept that God is completely unknowable even through the Bible.

[MindlessFool]

Re: The basics of theology

First up, sorry about being patronizing at the end of my post, it was uncalled for. I would also trust that as I have ceased being patronizing, any future infractions you give would give me the same dignity.

The link I provided is but a stub of what is Theology. I have studied theology for the past 2 years and can assure you that it takes most people a 4 year university/college course to gain a reasonable understanding of the topic.
In regards to God being unknowable please refer to my first post, I enjoy our discussion greatly but do not wish to repeat myself. It is common knowledge that Wikipedia only provides a brief summary of a great number of topics and I regret to inform you that it is pretty much the limit of amateur theology resources on the internet without doing some sort of correspondence course.

I would also like to ask you to cease filing reports on me for expressing my views, if you disagree with me (which you obviously do) then please don't let my posts affect you, it is as simple as clicking the 'back button', probably located in the top right hand corner of your internet browser. I fear that if I am banned from the site I would miss out on the valuable insights I am gaining from our discussion.

Look forward to hearing from you.

[MindlessFool]

Re: The basics of theology

...it is as simple as clicking the 'back button', probably located in the top right hand corner of your internet browser.
Look forward to hearing from you.

Sorry about that, top left hand corner.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The basics of theology

The basics of theology state that it is impossible for the human mind to comprehend an omnipotent being due to any thought or label applied would create a paradox of impurity versus omnipotence.
It is therefor impossible for any non-omnipotent being to apply any label, description or understanding to anything all-powerful due to contradiction that would ensue.
It is therefor equally correct to state that there is anywhere between 0 and infinite "Gods" or omnipotent beings as it is to say there is 1. It is also equally correct to say that any one or more of those Gods is female as it is to say it is male or asexual. It is such that proves that any label or thought applied to any omnipotent being by a creature capable of thought, sentient or otherwise, is nothing more than an opinion or guess.

Friendly Agnostic.

Denying the existence of God is not unbelief but an exercise in self-deception. You may know things, but you cannot account for anything you know. Arguing against God's existence would be on par with arguing against the existence of air, breathing it all the while. You use the universal, immaterial, unchanging laws of logic, mathematics, science, and absolute morality in order to come to rational decisions, but you cannot account for them. These laws are not the only way God has revealed himself to you, but they are sufficient to show the irrationality of your thinking, and expose your guilt for denying Him.

There is a reason that you deny the existence of God and it has nothing to do with proof. I can show this to you. Do you think that you can continue to deny God because surely somewhere, sometime, a philosopher or scientist will come up with an explanation for universal, immaterial, unchanging laws apart from God?' Did you ever try to come up with an alternate explanation on your own?

Hoping that an alternate explanation for universal, immaterial, unchanging laws can someday be found apart from God, is a blind leap of faith, or wishful thinking. Isn't it interesting that this is exactly what professed unbelievers accuse Christians of?

Please examine the real reason why you are running from God. It is my prayer that God will open your eyes and change your heart so that you may be saved from your sin, embraced by His ferocious love, and that you will tithe robustly to Landover Baptist Church (His favorite).

[Meek and Humble]

Re: The basics of theology

First up, sorry about being patronizing at the end of my post, it was uncalled for. I would also trust that as I have ceased being patronizing, any future infractions you give would give me the same dignity.

I have no fear of being patronized by a person who doesn't even know how to spell the word "allegiAnce"...