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  • #31
    Re: Goodie... the welcome wagon is here

    Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
    Since God is eternal, the latter half of your claim seems implausible. Looks like you're mistaken.
    The Thought of Christeanaty Begain at around 0BC/0AD and Was a Cult at the begining and Pagenisem begain at long before that so yeah Your puting down something that was older then itself so in the end Pagenisem wins by age
    Jedi are the guardians of peace in the galaxy.
    Jedi use their powers to defend and to protect.
    Jedi respect all life, in any form.
    Jedi serve others rather then ruling over them, for the good of the galaxy.
    Jedi seek to improve themselves through knowledge and training.

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    • #32
      Re: Goodie... the welcome wagon is here

      Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
      Since God is eternal, the latter half of your claim seems implausible. Looks like you're mistaken.
      However, I was referring to his supposed corporeal incarnation, not his reascension nor his role in the trinity.

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      • #33
        Re: Goodie... the welcome wagon is here

        Originally posted by The Jabba Master View Post
        The Thought of Christeanaty Begain at around 0BC/0AD and Was a Cult at the begining and Pagenisem begain at long before that so yeah Your puting down something that was older then itself so in the end Pagenisem wins by age
        On the other hand, Christianity wins by being the one true path to Salvation and not just a jumble of superstitious nonsense. I'd say that's more important.
        O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



        God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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        • #34
          Re: Goodie... the welcome wagon is here

          Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
          On the other hand, Christianity wins by being the one true path to Salvation and not just a jumble of superstitious nonsense. I'd say that's more important.
          Yes, of course, why didn't I realize that Christianity is far more superior to the countless religions predating it.

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          • #35
            Re: Goodie... the welcome wagon is here

            Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
            On the other hand, Christianity wins by being the one true path to Salvation and not just a jumble of superstitious nonsense. I'd say that's more important.
            I'm going to go with, NO If you look at what there has been you can tell that Christianity has taken Pagan Rituals and put them in there own religion

            Christmas for example is supposed to be about the Birth of Jesus except for the fact that Jesus was Born in the Summer months. The reason it was moved to December was because there was a Pagan Ritual of the Winter Solstice there and sense they wanted to attract people the Church said that it would be best for them to Combine the two so they Added the Germanic Tribes idea of Adding Candles on Evergreens so thus we have the truth of Christmas.
            Jedi are the guardians of peace in the galaxy.
            Jedi use their powers to defend and to protect.
            Jedi respect all life, in any form.
            Jedi serve others rather then ruling over them, for the good of the galaxy.
            Jedi seek to improve themselves through knowledge and training.

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            • #36
              Re: Goodie... the welcome wagon is here

              Originally posted by The Jabba Master View Post
              Christmas for example is supposed to be about the Birth of Jesus except for the fact that Jesus was Born in the Summer months.
              Care to back that up with, um, anything? Any evidence at all?
              O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



              God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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              • #37
                Re: Goodie... the welcome wagon is here

                Originally posted by The Jabba Master View Post
                I'm going to go with, NO If you look at what there has been you can tell that Christianity has taken Pagan Rituals and put them in there own religion

                Christmas for example is supposed to be about the Birth of Jesus except for the fact that Jesus was Born in the Summer months. The reason it was moved to December was because there was a Pagan Ritual of the Winter Solstice there and sense they wanted to attract people the Church said that it would be best for them to Combine the two so they Added the Germanic Tribes idea of Adding Candles on Evergreens so thus we have the truth of Christmas.
                Actually, the Dec. 25 date was chosen because people believed that prophets lives were circular. That a person was conceived on the same day that they died.

                So, as Jesus death (Easter) happens in Passover, spring; they added 9 months to when Passover was in the year (roughly) 32, and they came up with Jesus being born on Dec. 25.

                So there you are.

                Nice to see you are spelling better, how did this happen?

                V
                Judges 9:21 And Jotham ran away, and fled, and went to Beer, and dwelt there, for fear of Abimelech his brother.

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                • #38
                  Re: Goodie... the welcome wagon is here

                  Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
                  Care to back that up with, um, anything? Any evidence at all?
                  Do resurch off of Your "True Christan" Websights there is enough evadence that says so
                  Jedi are the guardians of peace in the galaxy.
                  Jedi use their powers to defend and to protect.
                  Jedi respect all life, in any form.
                  Jedi serve others rather then ruling over them, for the good of the galaxy.
                  Jedi seek to improve themselves through knowledge and training.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Goodie... the welcome wagon is here

                    Originally posted by The Jabba Master View Post
                    Do resurch off of Your "True Christan" Websights there is enough evadence that says so
                    How about we use the secular website of Wiki...

                    Birthdate of Jesus

                    You will see most of the compelling evidence if for December 25.
                    Judges 9:21 And Jotham ran away, and fled, and went to Beer, and dwelt there, for fear of Abimelech his brother.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Goodie... the welcome wagon is here

                      Originally posted by Brother V View Post
                      How about we use the secular website of Wiki...

                      Birthdate of Jesus

                      You will see most of the compelling evidence if for December 25.
                      Determining the exact day of Jesus' birth is even more problematic than the year. Some say that the birth could not have happened in the deep winter, because the Bible says that shepherds spent the night outdoors with their flocks when Jesus was born (Luke 2:8).
                      Thats from the Same Artical and December 25 is Deep Winter
                      Jedi are the guardians of peace in the galaxy.
                      Jedi use their powers to defend and to protect.
                      Jedi respect all life, in any form.
                      Jedi serve others rather then ruling over them, for the good of the galaxy.
                      Jedi seek to improve themselves through knowledge and training.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Goodie... the welcome wagon is here

                        Originally posted by The Jabba Master View Post
                        Thats from the Same Artical and December 25 is Deep Winter
                        Did you even read the next line?

                        Mediterranean climates such as Judea's have mild winters reaching their coolest in late February. Thus December nights can be quite balmy and warm enough to graze sheep. Moreover, December/January would have been an ideal time to graze sheep to take advantage of the winter rains.
                        Judges 9:21 And Jotham ran away, and fled, and went to Beer, and dwelt there, for fear of Abimelech his brother.

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                        • #42
                          Re: Goodie... the welcome wagon is here

                          Originally posted by Brother V View Post
                          Did you even read the next line?
                          Winter is at its Toughfest at around Desember 21st (Winter Solstice) Thus It would most likely be past that (Im thinking In January) but even still Its most likely that it is in Summer
                          Jedi are the guardians of peace in the galaxy.
                          Jedi use their powers to defend and to protect.
                          Jedi respect all life, in any form.
                          Jedi serve others rather then ruling over them, for the good of the galaxy.
                          Jedi seek to improve themselves through knowledge and training.

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                          • #43
                            Re: Goodie... the welcome wagon is here

                            Originally posted by The Jabba Master View Post
                            Winter is at its Toughfest at around Desember 21st (Winter Solstice) Thus It would most likely be past that (Im thinking In January) but even still Its most likely that it is in Summer
                            Are you bothering to even think about what you are writing? Are you thinking about checking any facts?

                            Jerusalem, which is just north of Bethlehem, has average December temperatures ranging from 57 to 42.

                            That is not too cold for anything.

                            V
                            Judges 9:21 And Jotham ran away, and fled, and went to Beer, and dwelt there, for fear of Abimelech his brother.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Goodie... the welcome wagon is here

                              Originally posted by The Jabba Master View Post
                              Winter is at its Toughfest at around Desember 21st (Winter Solstice) Thus It would most likely be past that (Im thinking In January) but even still Its most likely that it is in Summer
                              Come to Iowa in December and January and tell me which one is the toughest month. It doesn't matter when the shortest day of the year is or what holidays witches create around that day, it's when it's coldest, and the coldest month is not December.
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