[Father Thomas Martin]

Re: Introducing Fr. Tom

I have yet to see any Mary-worshipper give a satisfactory explanation of this passage:
Luke 11:27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.
28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

OK...The passage isn't denying she is blessed, but rather explaining why she is blessed...Remember when the angel visited her, asking her to be Jesus' mother? She said "Behold the handmaiden of the Lord. Let it be done to me as you have asked."

Wouldn't you say she heard the Word of God and kept it?

[Brother Temperance]

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OK...The passage isn't denying she is blessed, but rather explaining why she is blessed...Remember when the angel visited her, asking her to be Jesus' mother? She said "Behold the handmaiden of the Lord. Let it be done to me as you have asked."

Wouldn't you say she heard the Word of God and kept it?

Yes, but I would also say that I have heard the Word of God and kept it. Will you be erecting blasphemous idols to me in Churches across the world and kneeling down to them any time soon?

[Father Thomas Martin]

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Yes, but I would also say that I have heard the Word of God and kept it. Will you be erecting blasphemous idols to me in Churches across the world and kneeling down to them any time soon?

Let me reiterate it: If you really loved Jesus, you would respect his mom...

Her last quoted words in the Bible are (at the wedding at Cana): "Do whatever he tells you." I'd say she would lead us all to her Son, who you claim to love, but have no respect for his mother...

WE DO NOT WORSHIP MARY. We venerate her, and ask her to pray for us to her Son...

[Brother Temperance]

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Let me reiterate it: If you really loved Jesus, you would respect his mom...

Her last quoted words in the Bible are (at the wedding at Cana): "Do whatever he tells you."

Whoop-de-do. Again, I say you should do whatever Jesus tells you to, so are you going to start venerating me? Can you show me a quote where Jesus tells us to bow down to statues of his mammy?

WE DO NOT WORSHIP MARY. We venerate her, and ask her to pray for us to her Son...

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

Why would you need a mediator to speak to a mediator for you?

[Homertard]

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Yes. That's because you are both tools of the Antichrist.

Fool. I am the servant of Christ, you profaner of Isis.

[Talitha]

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Fool. I am the servant of Christ, you profaner of Isis.

Hey!!

Talk to a Pastor like that and you'll get some severe Infraction points.

[Father Thomas Martin]

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Whoop-de-do. Again, I say you should do whatever Jesus tells you to, so are you going to start venerating me? Can you show me a quote where Jesus tells us to bow down to statues of his mammy?

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

Why would you need a mediator to speak to a mediator for you?

If you would defend Christ and His Church (which is also my Church), and devote your life to his word and our faith, you might have a chance of becoming a saint when you die...But you ain't Catholic, so we can't canonize you.

Jesus is the mediator between God and man...But doesn't He want us to talk to His friends, and ask them to pray to Him for our help? You want us to talk to your friends, don't you think Jesus would want you to talk to His friends in heaven?...Wouldn't He grant their request if they asked Him?...So ask them and they'll ask Him...

[Homertard]

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He insulted me. If he insults me, he'll have to expect a comeback. I'll say sorry, if he agrees to say sorry as well - he started this.

[Brother Temperance]

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If you would defend Christ and His Church (which is also my Church), and devote your life to his word and our faith, you might have a chance of becoming a saint when you die...But you ain't Catholic, so we can't canonize you.

Jesus is the mediator between God and man...But doesn't He want us to talk to His friends, and ask them to pray to Him for our help? You want us to talk to your friends, don't you think Jesus would want you to talk to His friends in heaven?...Wouldn't He grant their request if they asked Him?...So ask them and they'll ask Him...

What part of ONE MEDIATOR do you not understand?

[Talitha]

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He insulted me. If he insults me, he'll have to expect a comeback. I'll say sorry, if he agrees to say sorry as well - he started this.

I give the Infraction points around here.

Pastor is merely trying to Save your Soul. You called him a fool and a profaner.
He will possibly accept your apology.

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

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If you would defend Christ and His Church (which is also my Church), and devote your life to his word and our faith,

How dare you talk to a True Christian in such an insolent tone? You are just begging for a hefty portion of Infraction Points The good Brother Temperance in Christ has spent a great deal of time defending Christ and His Church! More than you've spent buggering boys in the confessionals, I posit!

you might have a chance of becoming a saint when you die...But you ain't Catholic, so we can't canonize you.

Brother Temperance is a True Christian, and therefore is a Saint. We don't need some homer in a dress to smack us with a stick to be saints -- Jesus confers the title on us by default. And who wants to be canonized by a bunch of fairies who will be in Hell forever?

Jesus is the mediator between God and man...

Jesus is God. He isn't some dumb-waiter for prayers

But doesn't He want us to talk to His friends, and ask them to pray to Him for our help?

His Friends are His Chosen people: True Christians. Find me one verse where He tells us to pray to His "friends". Just one! "Verily I say unto you: if you want to talk to me, talk through my mother"

You want us to talk to your friends, don't you think Jesus would want you to talk to His friends in heaven?...Wouldn't He grant their request if they asked Him?...So ask them and they'll ask Him...

Prayer is a sacred form of talking with God. When we pray, we talk with the Alpha and the Omega -- not some "call-girl" in Heaven. To do so would be blasphemous and worthy of God's Wrath!

[Homertard]

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I give the Infraction points around here.

Pastor is merely trying to Save your Soul. You called him a fool and a profaner.
He will possibly accept your apology.

Hardly. He is calling my brother a tool of Satan. And suggesting I am in a pact with the devil.

He started it! It's on the acutal page.

[Brother Temperance]

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Hardly. He is calling my brother a tool of Satan. And suggesting I am in a pact with the devil.

He started it! It's on the acutal page.

No, your brother started it, by rejecting Christ and embracing Satan. You can hardly blame me for that.

[Homertard]

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No one here has rejected Christ.

Oh, that makes it okay then does it?

[Father Thomas Martin]

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How dare you talk to a True Christian in such an insolent tone? You are just begging for a hefty portion of Infraction Points The good Brother Temperance in Christ has spent a great deal of time defending Christ and His Church! More than you've spent buggering boys in the confessionals, I posit!

That would be the Catholic Church which Christ has established on the Rock of Peter, and "the gates of hell shall not prevail against". But you say they have.

Brother Temperance is a True Christian, and therefore is a Saint. We don't need some homer in a dress to smack us with a stick to be saints -- Jesus confers the title on us by default. And who wants to be canonized by a bunch of fairies who will be in Hell forever?

All followers of Christ and his teachings are saints. Remember "Saint" comes from the Latin word sanctus, meaning holy.

Jesus is God. He isn't some dumb-waiter for prayers

By God here I mean the Father. Jesus is God, as is the Holy Spirit, and Jesus is the way to the Father, and the Holy Spirit proceeds from them both.

His Friends are His Chosen people: True Christians. Find me one verse where He tells us to pray to His "friends". Just one! "Verily I say unto you: if you want to talk to me, talk through my mother"

Well, where are the terms "altar call," "personal Lord and Savior," "sola scriptura," or even "Bible" in the Bible?

Prayer is a sacred form of talking with God. When we pray, we talk with the Alpha and the Omega -- not some "call-girl" in Heaven. To do so would be blasphemous and worthy of God's Wrath!

They loved God, and we constantly rely on their intercession for help...So, if we love God, and they love God, that's a pretty darn good connection!