introducing myself

[anonebuam]

greetings Christians! i was told to introduce myself.

i am an ex-christian who went a journey from proving god via the 1st mover proof, to understanding the logical falsities in such a proof of god. at which point i became an agnostic. later on, after learning far more about the world around us, and understanding the null hypothesis, i became a true atheist. now i am a student of reality, rationalism, and empiricism, and a subscriber to Emanuel Kant.

that is me, my "church" and a little bit about my history, how i came to where i am, spiritually.

[Talitha]

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greetings Christians! i was told to introduce myself.

i am an ex-christian who went a journey from proving god via the 1st mover proof, to understanding the logical falsities in such a proof of god. at which point i became an agnostic. later on, after learning far more about the world around us, and understanding the null hypothesis, i became a true atheist. now i am a student of reality, rationalism, and empiricism, and a subscriber to Emanuel Kant.

that is me, my "church" and a little bit about my history, how i came to where i am, spiritually.

You turned your back on Baby Jesus?

That's terrible.
I shall Pray for you.

[Meek and Humble]

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Umm, Kant believes in God...

[MudkipsHunter]

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greetings Christians! i was told to introduce myself.

i am an ex-christian who went a journey from proving god via the 1st mover proof, to understanding the logical falsities in such a proof of god. at which point i became an agnostic. later on, after learning far more about the world around us, and understanding the null hypothesis, i became a true atheist. now i am a student of reality, rationalism, and empiricism, and a subscriber to Emanuel Kant.

that is me, my "church" and a little bit about my history, how i came to where i am, spiritually.

Oh, I'm actually shocked and appalled, sir. You should never turn back to Jesus and Almighty God! I pray for your soul, maybe Lord have mercy upon you.

[anonebuam]

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Umm, Kant believes in God...

yes he did, however just becuase i enjoy his combination of rationalism and empiricism doesn't mean i share his religious beliefs.

[Ciffian]

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I admire you're choise =D

Just make sure you'lle find the right balance. Science and all believes co-exists.

Love and Peace,

Ciffian

[anonebuam]

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I admire you're choise =D

Just make sure you'lle find the right balance. Science and all believes co-exists.

Love and Peace,

Ciffian

the issue is that i am a naturalist. there has never been documented proof or even evidence of the super natural.

ergo, a belief in it without said evidence is nonsensical.

thats not a scientific argument, as science can say NOTHING about the super natural. so yes, science can agree with some beliefs, such as the existence of god, but it also knocks down some beliefs, such as creationism and the great flood.

[Ciffian]

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the issue is that i am a naturalist. there has never been documented proof or even evidence of the super natural.

ergo, a belief in it without said evidence is nonsensical.

thats not a scientific argument, as science can say NOTHING about the super natural. so yes, science can agree with some beliefs, such as the existence of god, but it also knocks down some beliefs, such as creationism and the great flood.

That may not be nessesary. I understand your point of view ( it think ). I view it the same way, but when you investigate the things like the great flood, it is very plausible it did happen. I've once read that there was scientific proof that there was a great flood thousands of years ago. I believe this might corospond with the bible. Mayby not completely, but it is a start anyway. And about creationism. Lets just say that if the Big Bang ever happened ( I think it is very plausible ) then can It be, just mayby that God guided this bigbang to create the universe we know today?

Love and Peace,

Ciffian

[James Hutchins]

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Goodness me, we have a college student in our midst! Another ignorant child who read a book full of catch phrases he uses to hit on empty headed girls and casually mention in coffee shops to feel superior.

Wow, he is so kewl!


Son, God allows you to do what ever you want. It is simply called free will. If you were truly smart, you would not have to lean on the words of heathens, would be able to see God and would allow Him to embrace you. Sadly, you lame attempts at being a pseudo intellectual will end up biting you in the buttocks. Laugh now like a little child. You will wake up one day to reality and realize you've spit at Jesus one too many times. :haha"

[anonebuam]

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That may not be nessesary. I understand your point of view ( it think ). I view it the same way, but when you investigate the things like the great flood, it is very plausible it did happen. I've once read that there was scientific proof that there was a great flood thousands of years ago. I believe this might corospond with the bible. Mayby not completely, but it is a start anyway. And about creationism. Lets just say that if the Big Bang ever happened ( I think it is very plausible ) then can It be, just mayby that God guided this bigbang to create the universe we know today?

Love and Peace,

Ciffian

if you investigate them, it is quite obvious that there is no scientific evidence for the great flood. im sorry.

Goodness me, we have a college student in our midst! Another ignorant child who read a book full of catch phrases he uses to hit on empty headed girls and casually mention in coffee shops to feel superior.

Wow, he is so kewl!


Son, God allows you to do what ever you want. It is simply called free will. If you were truly smart, you would not have to lean on the words of heathens, would be able to see God and would allow Him to embrace you. Sadly, you lame attempts at being a pseudo intellectual will end up biting you in the buttocks. Laugh now like a little child. You will wake up one day to reality and realize you've spit at Jesus one too many times. :haha"

your threats are hollow and serve to only undermine your goals.

[Ciffian]

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Funny what kind of respond I get. It is full of negative comment. Please, you, I and all people who believe know that the primary force of God is LOVE. You are not very helpfull on that part.

And yes, I might be just a student and yes I might be wrong in the end. But then agian, we will never know for sure ^^.

=You will wake up one day to reality and realize you've spit at Jesus one too many times. :haha"

And totally respect your point of view in any way possible, but please do not say I spit in the face of Jesus. Why do I do that? I follow his word, so why am I then spitting? Doesn't make sence, does it? =D

Love and Peace,

Ciffian

[James Hutchins]

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Funny what kind of respond I get. It is full of negative comment. Please, you, I and all people who believe know that the primary force of God is LOVE. You are not very helpfull on that part.

And yes, I might be just a student and yes I might be wrong in the end. But then agian, we will never know for sure ^^.



And totally respect your point of view in any way possible, but please do not say I spit in the face of Jesus. Why do I do that? I follow his word, so why am I then spitting? Doesn't make sence, does it? =D

Love and Peace,

Ciffian

Mr. Claven, You come here and spout off about 'Jerzus' and 'evolution', call yourself a 'rational thinker' as well as speel like a child.

All these acts are insults to our Lord. Spitting in His face.

[Ciffian]

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if you investigate them, it is quite obvious that there is no scientific evidence for the great flood. im sorry.

Well there is countless of "theories" pointing towards a great flood happened a long time ago. For example the great sphinx in Egypt. It has been proven that its outer shell has been contimated by water. This could point towards a great flood. I misspoken myself to say there is actually evidence, because that might be impossible. There will always be specullations about this subject.

Thanks anyway =D

Mr. Claven, You come here and spout off about 'Jerzus' and 'evolution', call yourself a 'rational thinker' as well as speel like a child.

All these acts are insults to our Lord. Spitting in His face.

Why am I a sinner by saying that it is possible for evolution to exist. I am NOT denying the bible and I am sure not denying the way of Jesus or God. Explain to me please why I sin by saying these kind of things. And yes, I am a rational thinker. But that doesn't mean I don't believe in God.

Anyway I wish you both the best of Love!!

Peace and Love,

Ciffian