Hello, Jason is the name

[Jason Smith]

Hello people.
I'm jason, I live in the netherlands.
I just recently made an account, but while looking i saw archievements or something, things you've earned. Don't know the name of them.
And i was wondering why alot of people have ex-masturbator title.
I mean, why would a man be proud that he has masturbated in his life?
I am not trying to pick a fight at the moment, I'm just wondering.

Also, my english is not perfect, I hope you guys can understand me.

[Levi Jones]

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Ex-masturbator is for those of us who have overcome the sin of onanism. How old are you? You have never defiled yourself?
If so, my hat is off to you, sir!

[Croix-]

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The Important part is that they are !!EX!! Masturbaters, and They Are rightfully proud of the fact that they have quit.

I noticed in your post you mentioned religion not one time, you realize these are Christian forums yes?

[Jason Smith]

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I am 40 years old, and have a wife and 4 children.
I have never done it myself, because I think it is disgusting (not trying to offend the people that still do it, if they are around these forums.)

This might get me hated, but I do not follow the bible step by step.
The bible was written by many persons, and at first it were stories told to people verbally. If a single story gets told many times, without it being written down, details are missing, or people add things to the story.

I do believe that there is a God, and that Jesus was his son though.
I also believe that Jesus got crucified to die for the people.

I believe Jesus died to forgive us for our sins, and that u can have some sins, but they can't go to far.

[James Hutchins]

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Welcome friend, glad to see you are taking the time out of your busy life to think about Jesus.
True, many people wrote the words of God down. But only one God dictated them. Think about it.
You can sin and go to Hell. You can (if you are lucky and God believes you) repent and go to Heaven. Pretty simple stuff. God follows the K.I.S.S. rule whenever possible. Seems like you almost get it.
Tell me friend, what is your favorite Bible verse and how does it impact your life?
How many sons have you?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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This might get me hated, but I do not follow the bible step by step.
The bible was written by many persons, and at first it were stories told to people verbally. If a single story gets told many times, without it being written down, details are missing, or people add things to the story.

I do believe that there is a God, and that Jesus was his son though.
I also believe that Jesus got crucified to die for the people.

I believe Jesus died to forgive us for our sins, and that u can have some sins, but they can't go to far.

Given that you believe in God's existence and Christ's temporary sacrifice on the cross, how can you question the divinity of the Holy Bible?

If you accept the fact that God created the Heavens and earth, why do you assume that He would allow His Holy Word to be filled with errors?

God dictated the Bible directly to King James, so that His favorite country (America) could prosper.

[Phoenix]

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This might get me hated, but I do not follow the bible step by step.
The bible was written by many persons, and at first it were stories told to people verbally. If a single story gets told many times, without it being written down, details are missing, or people add things to the story.

Sir,

May I ask, which pages do you tear out of your Holy Bible? Or, perhaps a better question is, which books in particular within the Holy Bible do you think are corrupted, and which verses in particular do you think are open to interpretation?

With respect.

[Jason Smith]

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Ok, i just now closed the tab i was writing in for 30+ minutes, so I will keep it short this time.


I don't doubt special books, I doubt certain facts.

For example in Genesis, God told the people they would die if they ate from the apple in the middle of eden.
The serpent told them they would get knowledge of good and evil.

The two lacked experience and knowledge (they didn't know about good and evil) to deal with this, because what God and the serpent said, are completely opposite. they decided to eat the apple anyway.

How could god punish them for an act they had done before they knew about good and evil?

And why would god want people to not understand the difference between good and evil? Because when u don't have that knowledge, it should be morally the same to save someones life, and kill someone.

Also, God has said that they would die if they ate the apple, which didn't happen.
Why would God lie to the people, and why would the devil tell the truth?

Also, after Adam ate the apple, he was affraid to be seen by God, his Father, naked.
This seems to be implying that it is wrong to be seen naked by your own dad, which is completely false from my point of view.

My favorite verses are john 3:16 and john 11:25 for the following reasons.

I got into christianity back when I was 15. I went to a christian soccer camp with a mate of me. My mate already was a christian, and I just went to have some fun.

The "leaders" of the camp told me about john 3:16 and I started to think about it.
The leaders there convinced me that god DID exist.

I like John 11:25 because on my grandpas funeral, this verse was on the wall.
Ever since then, this verse had made a great impact on me.

I got 2 sons and 2 daughters.

They are named Kaleb, Keith, Isabel and Eva (which is dutch for eve. my wife didn't want to have 4 children with names from the bible.)

[Phoenix]

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For example in Genesis, God told the people they would die if they ate from the apple in the middle of eden.
The serpent told them they would get knowledge of good and evil.

The two lacked experience and knowledge (they didn't know about good and evil) to deal with this, because what God and the serpent said, are completely opposite. they decided to eat the apple anyway.

How could god punish them for an act they had done before they knew about good and evil?

Sir,

God tested Adam and Eve. He gave them free will out of true love. True love always requires choice. Without the freedom to choose, they would have been lifeless puppets. God wanted Adam and Eve to choose to love and trust Him. The only way to give this choice would have been to command against something that was forbidden,

And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
~ Genesis 2:16-17

And why would god want people to not understand the difference between good and evil? Because when u don't have that knowledge, it should be morally the same to save someones life, and kill someone.

God planted all manner of wonderful things in Eden,

And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
~ Genesis 2:9

Life was bountiful and good, and one could dwell in goodness by choice and freedom without ever knowing evil. The good had to be balanced with something else, in order for it to be chosen freely. The only thing that is opposite to good, is evil. God did not keep the tree of knowledge in the garden to entice Adam and Eve, but only so they had a choice to trust Him or not, and choose good instead of bad. God's plan for Adam and Eve was to enjoy each other and their fellowship with Him, without the influence of evil. God did not want Adam and Eve to experience evil or even know about it, unless they chose to.

Also, God has said that they would die if they ate the apple, which didn't happen.
Why would God lie to the people, and why would the devil tell the truth?

Satan rebelled against God before the world was formed. Satan seeks only to rise up against God, by any means he can. He convinced Eve that God was keeping something from her, in order to corrupt her and make her rebel too. It is one of his oldest and reliable tricks, to lure those to sin, by convincing them they are missing something good, when they are not.

Also, after Adam ate the apple, he was affraid to be seen by God, his Father, naked.

And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.
~ Genesis 3:7-8

With the knowledge of evil came the knowledge of sin. Adam and Eve gained knowledge of the difference between good and evil through direct experience, instead of through loving instruction by God. The knowledge of evil and sin brought fear and shame to Adam and Eve.

So, the knowledge of good and evil was not a good thing, since it ruined their innocent relationship with God. This, Satan desires above all else, to ruin anything good in the world.

This seems to be implying that it is wrong to be seen naked by your own dad, which is completely false from my point of view.

Sir, nobody here is interested in your point of view, if it conflicts with God. You can keep it.

Respectfully.

[Jason Smith]

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If it WOULD be wrong to be seen naked by your dad, why would God, the Father, have created us naked instead of with clothes?

My vision seems to be the same as god his vision. Or am I wrong here?

[Phoenix]

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If it WOULD be wrong to be seen naked by your dad, why would God, the Father, have created us naked instead of with clothes? My vision seems to be the same as god his vision. Or am I wrong here?

Sir,

You are very wrong. You liken God to corruptable man. The shame of sin is with the man and woman, not with God. You liken God to a human father. Are you a catholic transgressor?

Read this,

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
~ Romans 1:18-32

[Jason Smith]

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Thank you!
It is getting more clear everytime you give me some information.
Thanks alot!

I will read the holy bible again soon, because I cannot remember those things anymore.

[James Hutchins]

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See Jason, youAdam and Eve had two beings speaking to them, a serpent, and God (the Creator). Unless you are saying Adam and Eve were retards, why do you think they ate the apple? If your dad was there with you right this instant and told you not to jump off a cliff and some swarthy snake came up and told you to jump, which would you do?
Bottom line is (as so many of you young people are), they went agains the advice of an elder, wiser person. And now, we all have to pay the price for it. Makes you want to think twice before doing or saying anything follish now, doesn't it?