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[panzerxiii]

Hello everyone. I have come across your site through my various web surfing and I would like to say hello. I am a Korean teenager from New York City.

I have never really been far into religion because my parents didn't get me into it as a child, but I have been curious about it. I've been lurking on the site and have come across some various articles that I read.

I have just a few questions, about the site and this community in general.

In many of the articles of the forums user "Cranky Old Man," he states that the focus of the thread "X reasons God hates _____" that everyone participating, living in, or having to do anything with _____ is a sinner and should embrace God and will burn in hell along with "everything else except for what he enjoys or is a part of," in some cases America or American Football. Now I am sure that you know much more about your religion than I do, but honestly speaking, after reading that, I thought to myself, "are these people joking?" I believe that if there is a higher power, they wouldn't only love what a small group of white, American Football loving people from the United States of America.

I am an Eagle Scout as well, which means I have to follow a 12-point Law, including being Reverent. I have spoken to multiple community religious leaders, and I asked one Reverend in my area the following question. "As you may know, in New York, particularly around here, many small churches have been forming, each preaching the same religion. Every time I walk around, a preacher tells me that I should join their church, and if I politely refuse, they tell me to go to hell. How do you feel about that?" The Reverend replied to that, he loved God and he believes that everyone should try to embrace it, but condemning people to an eternal hell and torture for being different is not the Christian way.

I can already see the response coming from one of your valued community members - "He is not a true leader of religion and will burn in hell for that!"

Also, I was reading the list of your so-called "False Religions and Cults" and I saw Buddhism listed under there. My whole family has been Buddhist, and my ancestors have all been Buddhists. I have been to quite a few services, and I can attest to the fact that they do not "worship: an obese naked Chinaman, and Satan." First of all, Buddhism is a way of life, not a religion, and Buddhists (as far as I know) do not worship anything. Also, many other areas of this site have many offensive and intolerant statements, each arguing that it is not true because of the Bible.

I understand the belief that the Bible is the word of God, and I am sure within 390 years you guys probably have interpreted it better than some others, but using the Bible to defunct any argument seems pretty narrow minded to me. To be honest, you people say that atheists "worship monkeys and the religion of science and evolution." How have science and evolution ever been religions? They are based in fact.

I know that the stories in the Bible are based in fact, of course, "based" does not mean fact. Of course a dead person cannot rise from the grave, of course he cannot turn water into wine. But I think tolerance can be a mixture of both a fanatic belief in religion and the open mindedness to think otherwise.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Hi

You're sort of right, the pastor you spoke to is a False Christian. They are the type who will only tell you the "good news" so that they keep their pews and pockets full. As for the preachers on the street corners, well if they are teaching straight from the KJV Bible (ALL OF IT!) then they are telling you the Truth of Christianity.

As for Buddhism, care to explain what this is then?

Because it looks like the idol of a fat chink to me. I've also seen people burn incense in front of such statues, how is that not worshipping it?

[panzerxiii]

Re: Hi

Hmm, just as I suspected, you only read about a 1/16 of my post and ignore the rest. To me, True Christians™ seem to me what you say about atheists - they blindly follow a single entity, in your case, God (Atheists supposedly worship Satan or monkeys or whatever) and cannot see anything else.

Your signature states that "If you are not informed on the subject, then your opinion counts for nothing." Do you even know the basis of Buddhism? It is not worshipping, as you put it, "a fat chink," because first of all, Buddha was Indian in origin.


Not fat.

Also, it is not a worshipping, but a teaching of certain philosophies, much like some aspects of Christianity - walking the middle ground and being reborn - which is like what Jesus Christ was - reborn.

I just have to ask you this though - in the real world, without the façade of the Internet, do you really go up to African-Americans or other peoples of a darker color and call them nigras? Can you come up to my face and declare me a God-hating sinner chink?

To me, it seems like this community as a whole is just manipulating every little bend and curve in what they believe in, in order to get so called "true" Christianity to fit them and how they live, so that they can feel that they have the right to call others non-believers.

[panzerxiii]

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So apparently I received an infraction for "Going yappity yap yap yappity." That truly shows what kind of community this is and how much you value anyone's opinions but yourselves.

I also like how the copy of the Bible you use, the King James version, replaces many of the verses from other Bibles that preach tolerance and understanding, and basically are replaced with things that say that you can be an opinion.

i.e. in the New International Version,
James 2:12-13 NIV: "Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom, because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment.”

in the King James Version:
James 2:12-13: So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.

This whole forums angers me, but I am intelligent enough not to insult or fight you, as you have so done to me. Good luck with your beliefs, and I do not expect and luck in return. I'd rather burn in "hell" for all eternity with my friends than hang out in "heaven" with you assholes.

[panzerxiii]

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Oops, typos. Does God hate people who cannot sleep too? On my second line, instead of the word 'opinion' I meant to type 'false christian.'

And on my last sentence, after the word 'expect,' the word 'and' should be 'any.'

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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What is the lewd gesture he is making with his hands? Dare I even ask?

[Sister Charli]

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Hello PansyXiii.

I note that X111 equals 13. Friday the 13th. The devils day.

M is the 13th letter of the alphabet and short for MaryJane (Marijuana). So as a devil worshipping dope smoking pansy boy korean gook I wonder what on earth you are doing here at Landover.

[Once was lost]

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I have a little Buddha in my Flower Garden and the cat likes to pee on it.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Hi

I also like how the copy of the Bible you use, the King James version, replaces many of the verses from other Bibles that preach tolerance and understanding, and basically are replaced with things that say that you can be an opinion.

i.e. in the New International Version,
James 2:12-13 NIV: "Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom, because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment.”

in the King James Version:
James 2:12-13: So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.

This whole forums angers me, but I am intelligent enough not to insult or fight you, as you have so done to me. Good luck with your beliefs, and I do not expect and luck in return. I'd rather burn in "hell" for all eternity with my friends than hang out in "heaven" with you assholes.

If the KJV was published in 1611 and the NIV was published in 1978, and according to this one site will be revised in 2011 how exactly does the KJV replace parts of the NIV?

You satanists are always accusing us of things that would only be possible with time travel.

[Samuel Coleridge]

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i.e. in the New International Version,
James 2:12-13 NIV: "Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom, because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment.”

in the King James Version:
James 2:12-13: So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.

As much as it pains me to the core of my soul to admit this, the NIV is not really an accurate translation. It is meant to be more "topical and conversational".

On the other hand, the ESV and NASB are very literal translations from the oldest manuscripts.

James 2:12-13 ESV So speak and so act as those who are to be judged under the law of liberty. For judgment is without mercy to one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment.


I'm afraid the KJV is closer than the NIV in this case.

[Warner S. Davidson]

Re: Hi

So apparently I received an infraction for "Going yappity yap yap yappity." That truly shows what kind of community this is and how much you value anyone's opinions but yourselves.

This whole forums angers me, but I am intelligent enough not to insult or fight you, as you have so done to me. Good luck with your beliefs, and I do not expect and luck in return. I'd rather burn in "hell" for all eternity with my friends than hang out in "heaven" with you assholes.

It seems that you Koreans seem to make a lifestyle out of being angry (and ignorant) when you are proven incorrect

It would appear your leader Kim Jong Il also has an anger problem too -

Obviously this a genetic disposition bred into all Koreans and would automatically preclude you and your anger obsessed people entering Heaven

Your arrogant sinful demeanor will ensure that you all burn in the fires of Hell

[DoubleD]

Re: Hi

Welcome to Landover, I'm new here too.
As plainly stated this is a Southern Baptist forum for
True Christians.
It may seem myopic to you to view the world through Christs eyes in the KJV 1611 but that is the requirement to be saved.
In Jesus.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Hi

Welcome to Landover, I'm new here too.
As plainly stated this is a Southern Baptist forum for
True Christians.
It may seem myopic to you to view the world through Christs eyes in the KJV 1611 but that is the requirement to be saved.
In Jesus.

We're Independent Baptists, not Southern Baptists, get your facts right.

[DoubleD]

Re: Hi

We're Independent Baptists, not Southern Baptists, get your facts right.

I'm sorry, I was looking at the websites "fruits, Matt.7:16" and drew that conclusion.
Could you point to me where it says that on this website?

[Lisa H]

Re: Hi

Hello everyone. I have come across your site through my various web surfing and I would like to say hello. I am a Korean teenager from New York City.

I have never really been far into religion because my parents didn't get me into it as a child, but I have been curious about it. I've been lurking on the site and have come across some various articles that I read.

I have just a few questions, about the site and this community in general.

In many of the articles of the forums user "Cranky Old Man," he states that the focus of the thread "X reasons God hates _____" that everyone participating, living in, or having to do anything with _____ is a sinner and should embrace God and will burn in hell along with "everything else except for what he enjoys or is a part of," in some cases America or American Football. Now I am sure that you know much more about your religion than I do, but honestly speaking, after reading that, I thought to myself, "are these people joking?" I believe that if there is a higher power, they wouldn't only love what a small group of white, American Football loving people from the United States of America.

I am an Eagle Scout as well, which means I have to follow a 12-point Law, including being Reverent. I have spoken to multiple community religious leaders, and I asked one Reverend in my area the following question. "As you may know, in New York, particularly around here, many small churches have been forming, each preaching the same religion. Every time I walk around, a preacher tells me that I should join their church, and if I politely refuse, they tell me to go to hell. How do you feel about that?" The Reverend replied to that, he loved God and he believes that everyone should try to embrace it, but condemning people to an eternal hell and torture for being different is not the Christian way.

I can already see the response coming from one of your valued community members - "He is not a true leader of religion and will burn in hell for that!"

Also, I was reading the list of your so-called "False Religions and Cults" and I saw Buddhism listed under there. My whole family has been Buddhist, and my ancestors have all been Buddhists. I have been to quite a few services, and I can attest to the fact that they do not "worship: an obese naked Chinaman, and Satan." First of all, Buddhism is a way of life, not a religion, and Buddhists (as far as I know) do not worship anything. Also, many other areas of this site have many offensive and intolerant statements, each arguing that it is not true because of the Bible.

I understand the belief that the Bible is the word of God, and I am sure within 390 years you guys probably have interpreted it better than some others, but using the Bible to defunct any argument seems pretty narrow minded to me. To be honest, you people say that atheists "worship monkeys and the religion of science and evolution." How have science and evolution ever been religions? They are based in fact.

I know that the stories in the Bible are based in fact, of course, "based" does not mean fact. Of course a dead person cannot rise from the grave, of course he cannot turn water into wine. But I think tolerance can be a mixture of both a fanatic belief in religion and the open mindedness to think otherwise.

You should throw away these stupid arguments and start believing in the Lord. Get yourself a copy of the King James Bibles and start reading. Your last paragraph is wrong. All these things happened. Fact!