[Paul Jeffery]

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Look, I do follow the bible, but not word for word.

Then you don't follow the Bible.

The bible contradicts itself many times and therefor it cannot be followed word for word.

Kindly support that assertion with Scripture.

The bible WAS written by humans... humans are not always right.

The Bible was written by humans who were merely scribes writing the inspired word of God himself as He dictated it word for word to them.

I look at the bible as a tool to teach me about what is right and wrong. How I should live my life to be a good christian, and be a positive influence on the world.

No, you don't. You do not follow the Bible.

I believe it is to be taken metaphorically.

Please show where the Bible says which parts are to be "taken metaphorically".

And many of you seem to take it out of context. How many of you have gotten John 3:16 (taken out of all context) thrown at you

Please cite a single example of where a member of God's favorite forum has taken Scripture "out of context".

[joshbr10]

Re: Hi

Look, I do follow the bible, but not word for word. The bible contradicts itself many times and therefor it cannot be followed word for word. The bible WAS written by humans... humans are not always right. I look at the bible as a tool to teach me about what is right and wrong. How I should live my life to be a good christian, and be a positive influence on the world. I believe it is to be taken metaphorically. And many of you seem to take it out of context. How many of you have gotten John 3:16 (taken out of all context) thrown at you

[BelieverInGod]

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Also a quick question, does your religion believe in the ten commandments?

I believe in them. And I must honor my parents wishes, to be a catholic.

Matthew 12:46-50 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Mark 3:31-35 There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him. And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee. And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren? And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

[joshbr10]

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Also a quick question, does your religion believe in the ten commandments?

I believe in them. And I must honor my parents wishes, to be a catholic.

[BelieverInGod]

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I was baptised when I was four years old I can remember it and I believed then to, like I do now. I do follow Jesus, maybe not the same way that your bible says to. But I follow Jesus. You wont be able to convince me that I do not follow him, because I do. I don't even follow my own bible to the exact word, the bible contradicts itself now and then, so I guess it would be impossible anyways.

How can you say you follow Jesus if you don't follow the Bible?

[joshbr10]

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I was baptised when I was four years old I can remember it and I believed then to, like I do now. I do follow Jesus, maybe not the same way that your bible says to. But I follow Jesus. You wont be able to convince me that I do not follow him, because I do. I don't even follow my own bible to the exact word, the bible contradicts itself now and then, so I guess it would be impossible anyways.

[BelieverInGod]

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Ok, have said the hail mary. We pray to her diffenertly than we would pray to Jesus though, I dont really know how to explain it, but we do not pray to her as a God herself. And when we do good deeds, we do it out of the kindness of our hearts also. It definetly is not simply just us trying to get to heaven. In fact I belive that I can already go to heaven (please don't rip on me for saying that, its what I belive) because I am a good person and I do not commit mortal sins. So if I think I can already get into heaven then why would I do charitable acts to try to get into heaven.

We're trying to explain to you that even if you're a 'saint' you're not getting into heaven. It has nothing to do with being a 'good person' it has everything to do with surrendering your life to Jesus and following everything in the KJV1611 Bible.

Romans 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Note: you have to believe before you are baptized, therefore infant baptism doesn't work. That's something the Catholic church invented to make parents feel better about children dying.

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

[joshbr10]

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Ok, have said the hail mary. We pray to her diffenertly than we would pray to Jesus though, I dont really know how to explain it, but we do not pray to her as a God herself. And when we do good deeds, we do it out of the kindness of our hearts also. It definetly is not simply just us trying to get to heaven. In fact I belive that I can already go to heaven (please don't rip on me for saying that, its what I belive) because I am a good person and I do not commit mortal sins. So if I think I can already get into heaven then why would I do charitable acts to try to get into heaven.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Josh, you claim you have never prayed to Mary. So, you have never said a single "Hail Mary", or any of the scores of other Catholic prayers to Mary? Somehow I find this difficult to believe.

You claim you do not believe that crackers and wine become flesh and blood. This is the Catholic doctrine of transubstantiation. You deny it. This makes you a heretic.

Frankly, it sounds like you could be on your way to becoming a Christian, if you could just stop claiming that Catholics -- who are pagans that worship a variety of man-made "saints" instead of Jesus, as clearly commanded in the Bible -- are Christians, you'd move toward God much faster.

Mary is dead. The "saints" are dead. They will all be dead until Judgment. They're not sitting around in Heaven listening to you pray and watching you light candles to them. They're dead until they are resurrected.

See Revelation.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I never said that there are no priests that abuse kids. Although I can say that here in Canada that doesn't really happen often. I just came to talk civilised about religion, but obviously that wont happen because you all cant seem to get off that fact that there have been a few priests that have given the catholic church a bad name. It seems like all of you can only see that bad things that the catholic church has done and none of the good things (the good things far outweigh the bad things).

Leading millions to hell is not a "good thing." Forget the boy-buggery, the papist church teaches false doctrines!

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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Umm ok. They have taught millions and millions of people to be good and kind to other people. Treat others as you yourself would want to be treated. I could go on and on. But i wont because you'll all somehow just bash me for it. Goodbye

They just did all that to save themselves from eternal damnation. Those are selfish acts. When Baptists do good deeds we do it out of the kindness of our hearts, because we are already saved and forgiven through the blood of Christ. You said yourself that cathylickers have to do good works to stay out of Hell. Then you try to act all self-righteous about those good works? I spit you out of my mouth.

[BelieverInGod]

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I never said that there are no priests that abuse kids. Although I can say that here in Canada that doesn't really happen often. I just came to talk civilised about religion, but obviously that wont happen because you all cant seem to get off that fact that there have been a few priests that have given the catholic church a bad name. It seems like all of you can only see that bad things that the catholic church has done and none of the good things (the good things far outweigh the bad things).

Such as damning people to hell? Should I ignore the fact that John Wayne Gacey was a murderer since he was also a "nice neighbour" and did charity work?

Oh and wasn't it Canada where the case first broke? At the Mount Cashel Orphanage in St. John's? Ah, on further research, that was no where near the first one, just the one that triggered the medias attention. Do you realize how much that case has cost the Government of Canada as well as the Government of Newfoundland?

But hey, it's all cool right, because they also clothed and fed the poor kids. It's not like they were treating it like their own personal brothel.

[joshbr10]

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Umm ok. They have taught millions and millions of people to be good and kind to other people. Treat others as you yourself would want to be treated. I could go on and on. But i wont because you'll all somehow just bash me for it. Goodbye

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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I never said that there are no priests that abuse kids. Although I can say that here in Canada that doesn't really happen often. I just came to talk civilised about religion, but obviously that wont happen because you all cant seem to get off that fact that there have been a few priests that have given the catholic church a bad name. It seems like all of you can only see that bad things that the catholic church has done and none of the good things (the good things far outweigh the bad things).

Name one good thing that the cathylicker church has ever done!

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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Brother, I linked to a thread that said it was 64%. Perhaps that was in one parish, perhaps it really is that high, I don't know. I just know that I would not leave my children alone near any priest. Or any catholic for that matter. I mean if they think child molestation is no big deal, why would I trust them around my own?

Amen! If some catlickers found their way out in my neck of the woods lookin' at my boys like they look at boys, I'd have to put a stop to them. They're even worse than the negras and their pie stealing crack gangs. I'd rather be shot to death and have my wallet stolen than let some 50 year old faggot in black robes tithe my anus.