[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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That's one of the verses I don't believe in. I only believe in the parts that teach us about truth, and love, and beauty, and compassion.

Every verse, being true, teaches us about the truth. Every verse teaches us about God's love and compassion for His elect, which is beautiful.

[Jo Freddie]

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I don't "believe in" the law of gravity, but I still don't fall off the planet.

I don't "believe in" germs, but I still get sick if I eat a moldy kangaroo.

You might not "believe in" some of the Bible, but you'll still burn in the aeternal fires.

The One True Lord teaches us to examine what is writ and pick out what we believe, now I would expect most would pick out the examples (well not so sure about the gravity thing but I have covered that before) you give as things to believe and ManyPaths is correct to reject those things that do not feel right.
Qwertyuiopasd’s Letter to the Evangelists.

2:4 As the Flying Spaghetti Monster said through the Buddha, “Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.”

[Brother Snapper Grogan]

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That's one of the verses I don't believe in.

I don't "believe in" the law of gravity, but I still don't fall off the planet.

I don't "believe in" germs, but I still get sick if I eat a moldy kangaroo.

You might not "believe in" some of the Bible, but you'll still burn in the aeternal fires.

[ManyPaths]

Re: A message.

So you freely admit to picking and choosing what you believe in. At least you're honest about that. But, the Bible warns you from trying to read your own "truths" from its pages.

2nd Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

I like how you listen to the bolded part and completely ignore the sentence after it: They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.

Jesus is saying He will bring non-believers into His fold. They will become believers and then be Saved. He does not say there are many paths. Why does He say one flock and one shepherd? Why does He mention that they will listen to His voice (and not others, like Buddha?) If there were "many paths" like you claim, He would've said "many flocks and many shepherds".

This is a perfect example of why people should not pick and choose from the Bible.

That's one of the verses I don't believe in. I only believe in the parts that teach us about truth, and love, and beauty, and compassion. For example,

12My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.

That is just so deep and spiritual, unlike all the parts of the bible that the real god is not responsible for. I could meditate on that verse for hours.

And as for how you interpret the verse I posted earlier, well, whatever. We all have to discover our own path, our own truth. You have yours and I have mine. But it's all good becasue we'll all eventually be together in heaven, reunited with God/Allah/Brama. But we have to find our own way to heaven/pradise/nirvana. To quote Alan Watts:

"Irrevocable commitment to any religion is not only intellectual suicide; it is positive unfaith because it closes the mind to any new vision of the world. Faith is, above all, open-ness - an act of trust in the unknown."

Once when a Jehovah's Witness tried to tell me that if there was a God of Love, he would certainly provide mankind with a reliable and infallible textbook for guidance and conduct, I replied that no considerate God would destroy the human mind by making it so rigid and unadaptable as to depend on one book for all the answers. That was like, so deep, and I totally surprised myself! LOL!

Again, to quote Alan Watts:
"Just as money is not real, consumable wealth, books are not life. To idolize scriptures is like eating paper currency."

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

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The bible is a bunch of stories that we reflect upon and find our own truth. Our own way. Our own dharma.

So you freely admit to picking and choosing what you believe in. At least you're honest about that. But, the Bible warns you from trying to read your own "truths" from its pages.

2nd Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

Jesus in John 10 14I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me—
15just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep.
16I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.

Now that's a bible verse I can believe in! Jesus is telling us that there are many paths to salvation. We each have to find our own way in our own time. God loves us all.

I like how you listen to the bolded part and completely ignore the sentence after it: They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.

Jesus is saying He will bring non-believers into His fold. They will become believers and then be Saved. He does not say there are many paths. Why does He say one flock and one shepherd? Why does He mention that they will listen to His voice (and not others, like Buddha?) If there were "many paths" like you claim, He would've said "many flocks and many shepherds".

This is a perfect example of why people should not pick and choose from the Bible.

[Sister Charli]

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Though I shall not join your forum,

You have registered, you have a user name, therefore you HAVE joined this forum.

I have come to make peace with my idea.

I got a better suggestion. Way not make peace with God rather than with an idea?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Uh, whatever. I never said I took the bible literally. I take a lot from it, but much of what is in there are not the words of a loving, benevolent god.

The bible is a bunch of stories that we reflect upon and find our own truth. Our own way. Our own dharma.

And can you post any Scripture to back that up? Because MY Bible says something diferent. MY Bible says that God insists on us obeying each and every word in His Holy Word.

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Matthew 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

[Lisa H]

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Uh, whatever. I never said I took the bible literally. I take a lot from it, but much of what is in there are not the words of a loving, benevolent god.

The bible is a bunch of stories that we reflect upon and find our own truth. Our own way. Our own dharma.

Now that's a bible verse I can believe in! Jesus is telling us that there are many paths to salvation. We each have to find our own way in our own time. God loves us all.

How dare you mock the Bible with your pagan ways. It is the Word of the Lord. Don't taint the Word of the Lord with your pagan beliefs.

Jeremiah 7:9 Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not;

[ManyPaths]

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Uh, whatever. I never said I took the bible literally. I take a lot from it, but much of what is in there are not the words of a loving, benevolent god.

The bible is a bunch of stories that we reflect upon and find our own truth. Our own way. Our own dharma.

14I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me—
15just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep.
16I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.

Now that's a bible verse I can believe in! Jesus is telling us that there are many paths to salvation. We each have to find our own way in our own time. God loves us all.

[Brother Alex]

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Ya, it's kind of sad to see how these people have misinterpreted the beauty and truth of Jesus' teachings. I found this forum when I was trying to better understand the Baptists that surround me where I live, and it's been a real eye-opener.

Misinterpreted? Ok, let's take a look at some scripture shall we?

Psalm 55:15 as written in the KJV1611 Holy Bible: Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.

Psalm 55:15, True Christian™ 'misinterpretation' (according to your unsaved opinions): Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.

Psalm 55:15, your interpretation: Jesus loves everyone.

Here's some more...

Matthew 25:41 as written in the Holy Bible: Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Matthew 25:41, True Christian™ 'misinterpretation' (according to your unsaved opinions): Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Matthew 25:41, your interpretation: Jesus loves everyone.

And more...

John 3:36 as written in the Holy Bible: He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

John 3:36, True Christian™ 'misinterpretation' (according to your unsaved opinions): He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

John 3:36, your interpretation: Jesus loves everyone.

...and so on and so on. Now, who's misinterpretation was it again?

[ManyPaths]

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Also realize, hate can be expressed even though you do not realize you are expressing it. Be tolerant to all cultures, and all people; that is our gods message.

Ya, it's kind of sad to see how these people have misinterpreted the beauty and truth of Jesus' teachings. I found this forum when I was trying to better understand the Baptists that surround me where I live, and it's been a real eye-opener.

4Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
5It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
7It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.
9For we know in part and we prophesy in part,
10but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears.
11When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me.
12Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Dear slope;

Hong ching chong wakai leek leek ching chong bay.





I speak their lingo and I told her to accept Jesus or her family would lose face forever. That line works every time.

[Brother Snapper Grogan]

Re: A message.

May god bless your souls for openly sharing your beliefs

He does. That's because we're obedient to His perfectly clear and specific commandments.

Anyone else had better dress for warm weather.

[John Creeser]

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First: [satanic link deleted]

You may want to add some troll spray to your forum; they tend to be nasty.

Second: I first came to troll this forum myself, certainly that was a bad idea. Though I shall not join your forum, I have come to make peace with my idea. I know there is a god, and certainly I am not atheist; those who come to hate are idiots, and you should feel sorry for them. And because of that, I know it was fairly stupid to even think of trolling someone for their beliefs. We, as humans, are all entitled to our opinions and happiness. Unfortunately, not all people feel that way; or they do, and don't realize it. Most times, hate is used to cover up the pain that lies inside.

May god bless your souls for openly sharing your beliefs; as said before, we all are entitled to them.

Is GOD not worthy of a capital G?

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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Be tolerant to all cultures, and all people; that is our gods message.

Our God has a somewhat different message.