[Gaps]

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I fail to see what you point is....God's law is just that and we follow it via the KJV1611

Exactly my point.

[James Hutchins]

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God gave us a brain so we could intelligently use His wonderful gift of "Free Will". You see, being able to independantly decide on our own what we want to do with our short, insignificant lives is very important. God lets us choose to follow His Word(c), or not. Simple. If we follow His Word(c), we get the chance to possibly spend eternity in Heaven. If we choose to ignore His Word(c), we will absolutely go to Hell. Again, very simple.
Reading part of the Bible and ignoring other parts is like getting dressed and going out. A True Christina puts on sensible underware, pants and a shirt (or an ankle length skirt and long sleeved, high necked blouse), socks and shoes. All out Heathens wear nothing at all and go out. You put on just the shirt.

[Warner S. Davidson]

Re: Hello

Originally Posted by Grapes

Exactly my point.

Ahhh…how original............... …….
The vague, irrelevant one line answer strategy.The refuge and cowardly calling card of the of ignorant and defeated unsaved debater .
As you further stumble and cement your foolish position I suspect that you will then resort to a strategy of diversion in a futile attempt to save face

My backward Danish friend you initiated and engaged in this ludicrous
atheist tomfoolery so please have the fortitude to try and finish what you started


Something for you to ponder:

Proverbs 1:7
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge,
But fools despise wisdom and instruction.

[Lisa H]

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Off course i will be influenced by all kinds of people - even you guys in here. Dont think that im not considering the words i read here, as other places.

I cant read things without interpret the things i read. Papers, Blogs, Reports, Scholar work, the Bible, scripts etc. I will not follow anything blindly until i have given it some thoughts, and that can only be done fairly after reading it to an end. Then i will look at my feelings inside, and follow them. If you read, lets say, an civil law. It may seem unfair, but giving it some thought, it might turn out to be right.

Nice, and by the way, is was not trying to offend you with that comment.





As written above - to Lisa - i cant just follow something - anything at all - before getting to the end, and put things in perspective. Off course i can have an opinion, thats what we do. At least i i many ways.

I do not follow anything, or any bible totally, there will in any matters be parts where i disagree, or hava an other opinion or morale.

But i think you are correct. God wrote the book, so even fools, can understand his words.

I do not have a hard time understanding that you in here simply loves God and his words. And i really respect that! I love him and his words too. We do not nessecarely believe in him the 100% same way, but he is still the same God. We follow and read his words, but not 100% frome the same write down of his words.

In my eyes im no false Christian. In yours i am. In Gods...? well if we end up at the same God, we will have an answer to who going to what floor. Most likely im going down.

Should it be that I in the future, realise that i should follow, God the same way as you. Then i would be fantastic! I would have the answers for anything, in any situation. That would be something. A life without doubt. And without asking questions.


Then theres no need for brain. Why did god created us with a brain?

You do not know anything about Denmark.

YEs, when you follow the KVJ1611 you would offcourse believe your right. If you follow Sharilla, The Coran, Buddha, Jesus, Mother Mary, Atheism or Gandhi, you would believe your right.

See above

I know what you are trying to say, that finding the Lord is a personal experience. We all have found the Lord from many different paths. Some people have been born into True Christian families, while others have come from depths of depravity. It is not until the individual believes, and has faith in the Lord.

We are always on the path to the Lord and must be vigilant to stay on it. There is no shame in having others help us. The pastors are there to helps learn. Just as your parents did when you were growing up. Imagine what it would be like if you stopped learning from your parents when you learnt how to walk.

God has also given answer to you trouble in accpeting help with reading the Bible.

Exodus 18:20 And thou shalt teach them ordinances and laws, and shalt shew them the way wherein they must walk, and the work that they must do.
Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.

[landoverlover]

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Hello people of this Forum.

I respect you, so please respect me too.

Im happy to be here, and all the best for you guys.

A few words on 'respect'.

Respect is an overrated value. Many people are false Christians because they believe they must be polite towards, listen to, and even agree with people who are damned. The whole idea of ecumenical programs is to grant undeserved "respect" to false and even satanic ideas.

We at Landover are not going to smile at you and nod our heads up and down and say stuff like "That's really interesting" while you or anyone else spew about how great the Pope is, or how we are all equal brothers and sisters because the mooslims, Christians and Jews have the same god, or say stuff like "We'll just have to agree to disagree." No sir. We will tell you flat out if you are wrong. We're trying to save your soul and will cut to the chase to accomplish that. Too often "respect" is used to avoid telling the truth out of fear of appearing impolite.

As you have discovered, we are people who don't care what people who are going to hell think. Respect is earned.

[Gaps]

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God gave us a brain so we could intelligently use His wonderful gift of "Free Will".

I agree James! But if my free will tell me to understand and believe as i do, then ok, i might go to hell. I do not ignore Gods words, but i do not live my life according to them, the exact same way as.

I do by the way wear orderly clothes

Ahhh…how original............... …….
The vague, irrelevant one line answer strategy.The refuge and cowardly calling card of the of ignorant and defeated unsaved debater .
As you further stumble and cement your foolish position I suspect that you will then resort to a strategy of diversion in a futile attempt to save face

THats not a strategy my dear friend. Sometimes theres absolutely nothing more to say - as in this case. And please be aware of one thing - im not a defeated debater - as there should not be a winner or a looser in a debate! Thats why its called a debate.

Dont you worry about my face, its fine, no matter what.

My backward Danish friend you initiated and engaged in this ludicrous
atheist tomfoolery so please have the fortitude to try and finish what you started

Finish what? Please explain.

I know what you are trying to say, that finding the Lord is a personal experience. We all have found the Lord from many different paths.

Thank you Lisa, thats exactly my point.

God has also given answer to you trouble in accpeting help with reading the Bible.

And i will ask for help, when needed. Do not worry.

A few words on 'respect'.

Respect is an overrated value. Many people are false Christians because they believe they must be polite towards, listen to, and even agree with people who are damned. The whole idea of ecumenical programs is to grant undeserved "respect" to false and even satanic ideas.

Dont worry, i will not treat you with respect in the future, as im a false Christian in your eyes.

We at Landover are not going to smile at you and nod our heads up and down and say stuff like "That's really interesting" while you or anyone else spew about how great the Pope is, or how we are all equal brothers and sisters because the mooslims, Christians and Jews have the same god, or say stuff like "We'll just have to agree to disagree." No sir. We will tell you flat out if you are wrong. We're trying to save your soul and will cut to the chase to accomplish that. Too often "respect" is used to avoid telling the truth out of fear of appearing impolite.

I have no problem with that, but i will will treat you the same way my friend. And i will not stop telling the truth or making a point when you wrong.

As you have discovered, we are people who don't care what people who are going to hell think. Respect is earned.

Just like i dont care what you think. And you are so right. Respect is earned.

[James Hutchins]

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I agree James! But if my free will tell me to understand and believe as i do, then ok, i might go to hell. I do not ignore Gods words, but i do not live my life according to them, the exact same way as.
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Not that I like your response, I respect it. I always worry that peple think being partially Christian is adequate. I appreciate you try to be a good person during your short life. I am sorry I'll never have the chance to meet you in Heaven though.
I do wonder though, why you think you know how to live better than your Creator does? Why do you think you are smarter than God?

[Gaps]

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Not that I like your response, I respect it. I always worry that peple think being partially Christian is adequate. I appreciate you try to be a good person during your short life. I am sorry I'll never have the chance to meet you in Heaven though.
I do wonder though, why you think you know how to live better than your Creator does? Why do you think you are smarter than God?

I can see that my typing was a bit quick, the sentences should have been like this:"...but i do not live my life according to them, the exact same way as you do". But i guess you got that

Well the bible that was a part of my growing up, is not the King James. And I do know that you say thats the only one, and the correct. But im not so sure. The way i grow up with the Bible and Gods words, was not at all so litteraly as you read the King James Bible. I do not take it word by word, but story for story, morale for morale. I dont know if it makes sense, it does in my native language, but im not sure in english

I do not think im smarter than God. I have read another version of Gods words, than Kings James. But im also a free mind, and do take reflection serious. That is also why i dare to ask questions.

But when im done reading your Bible, then who knows... i might change my mind, and then there will after all be a chance to meet in heaven.

[Deaner]

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This may be slightly off topic Mr. Grapes, but your username doesn't have anything to do with the size of your testicles does it?

[landoverlover]

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I can see that my typing was a bit quick, the sentences should have been like this:"...but i do not live my life according to them, the exact same way as you do". But i guess you got that

Well the bible that was a part of my growing up, is not the King James. And I do know that you say thats the only one, and the correct. But im not so sure. The way i grow up with the Bible and Gods words, was not at all so litteraly as you read the King James Bible. I do not take it word by word, but story for story, morale for morale. I dont know if it makes sense, it does in my native language, but im not sure in english

I do not think im smarter than God. I have read another version of Gods words, than Kings James. But im also a free mind, and do take reflection serious. That is also why i dare to ask questions.

But when im done reading your Bible, then who knows... i might change my mind, and then there will after all be a chance to meet in heaven.

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First, I suggest you abandon blaming your misspent youth as an excuse for not using the KJV. You're an adult now, choose the correct version and stick with it.

Second, yes, you have a "free mind." Which gets you exactly nothing unless you use it for God's purposes. And those are laid out in "our" (which you should state as "THE") Bible - the King James 1611 version. Your "free mind" is only a test to see if you follow God's will. It is not a license to be a beatnik and lay around all day eating ring-dings and watching Jerry Springer.

The whole planet, and our short lives, have but one purpose: To be a proving ground for separating the heaven from the hell-bound.

[Gaps]

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This may be slightly off topic Mr. Grapes, but your username doesn't have anything to do with the size of your testicles does it?

No, the username, "Rednecks = Stupidity" was not allowed so i took my username after something you do not use often. What might that be...

First, I suggest you abandon blaming your misspent youth as an excuse for not using the KJV. You're an adult now, choose the correct version and stick with it.

Well i am reading more than just one book... so when im done with your version, I will let you know.[/QUOTE]

Second, yes, you have a "free mind." Which gets you exactly nothing unless you use it for God's purposes. And those are laid out in "our" (which you should state as "THE") Bible - the King James 1611 version. Your "free mind" is only a test to see if you follow God's will. It is not a license to be a beatnik and lay around all day eating ring-dings and watching Jerry Springer.

I guess you can only see it like that. You do not have to think. I read your words - it makes sense.

And Jerry Springer... thats something you Americans brought to the world. Please do not infect me with that foolish TV show

[James Hutchins]

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I can see that my typing was a bit quick, the sentences should have been like this:"...but i do not live my life according to them, the exact same way as you do". But i guess you got that

Well the bible that was a part of my growing up, is not the King James. And I do know that you say thats the only one, and the correct. But im not so sure. The way i grow up with the Bible and Gods words, was not at all so litteraly as you read the King James Bible. I do not take it word by word, but story for story, morale for morale. I dont know if it makes sense, it does in my native language, but im not sure in english

I do not think im smarter than God. I have read another version of Gods words, than Kings James. But im also a free mind, and do take reflection serious. That is also why i dare to ask questions.

But when im done reading your Bible, then who knows... i might change my mind, and then there will after all be a chance to meet in heaven.

Tell me, what is it about the Bible you dislike so much? Why the aversion to following His word to the letter? I find it makes things very simple.

[Gaps]

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Tell me, what is it about the Bible you dislike so much? Why the aversion to following His word to the letter? I find it makes things very simple.

I do not dislike the Bible at all. The bible is a treasure of valuable lessons! I just find it hard to belive in something that old to the letter.

[James Hutchins]

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I do not dislike the Bible at all. The bible is a treasure of valuable lessons! I just find it hard to belive in something that old to the letter.

Ah, I see, if it is not new and Iphone compatible app, it is no good? Do you feel the same way about your grandparents?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I do not dislike the Bible at all. The bible is a treasure of valuable lessons! I just find it hard to belive in something that old to the letter.

That's your problem. God commands and it is up to us to obey or spit in His loving face. Turn or burn, as the saying goes. Lazy people get rewarded by an eternity in hell.

Matthew 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.