[Lisa H]

Re: Hello.

Okay, sure, the "what makes you Atheist" is the only rule. Boo hoo. That's just the unspoken rule. Come on.

So you are admitting there are rules to being an atheist. That in so following these rules you are in fact following religious laws.

1. I wasn't saying the Big Bang was the proof that Atheism is the right religion. Don't put words in my mouth. And sure, okay, it came from a bunch of different people. But maybe those persons were just a group that was sick of the killing and convinced naive people to believe their story by writing a huge book. Think about that. Be open minded for once.

Well, if you have read the Bible you will see it was written over a very long time. Not by some group of people having a cafe latte in a coffee shop.

2. Thank you for reiterating what I said you were implying with your poor logic.

Now you are just being petty because you arguments are faltering against the facts from the Bible.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Hello.

I'm here because you all just seem so ridiculous and ignorant in your beliefs. None of you are open-minded. None. You're all stubborn. None of you so far have even tried to see what I've been saying. I thought I could get a good discussion going on, but none of you can prove my points wrong.

Yes, you have been proven wrong with each post you make. Tell your master satan that we have JESUS on our side and cannot be defeated!

You guys aren't making Christians look good at all.

It is not our goal to "make Christians look good." We are here to uplift Jesus and follow the teachings of the Holy Bibe WORD FOR WORD, as God commands.

I showed my Christian friend this forum. He laughed at it.

Then he is no Christian.

[Can I justify that]

Re: Hello.

Why are you here, just to mock us? This is a Christian forum. Unsaved scum are unwelcome.

I'm here because you all just seem so ridiculous and ignorant in your beliefs. None of you are open-minded. None. You're all stubborn. None of you so far have even tried to see what I've been saying. I thought I could get a good discussion going on, but none of you can prove my points wrong. You guys aren't making Christians look good at all. I showed my Christian friend this forum. He laughed at it.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Hello.

Of course the word of God remains the same. It's a written religion. There's no "new bibles," and, if there was, it would be widely rejected. Science and real life is constantly thriving with new ideas. Science changes all the time because theories aren't always correct. That's why they change. TO MAKE THEM BETTER. Please, actually think. In a world with no God, where else is valid knowledge going to come from?

I know in MY HEART that Atheism is the correct way to be. I've been Christian before. As I've said in my main post. The thread starter. I simply converted because I saw no proof and all of it was just silly. Every bit of it. I really was a serious Christian. I didn't just try it out barely and give up. I got nothing from him. I prayed for little things, and got none. None at all. Atheism makes much more sense, anyhow. Don't assume what I "know in my heart" and what I don't.

Why are you here, just to mock us? This is a Christian forum. Unsaved scum are unwelcome.

[Can I justify that]

Re: Hello.

You miss the entire point. There's what you know and what you show. You get so wrapped up in words in some so-called science book that you miss the forest for the trees. You seem to think that valid knowledge only comes from the scientific method. What science declares as 'truth' changes all the time. The Revealed Word™ of the Lord God does not.

What you need to focus on is what you KNOW IN YOUR HEART. Why is that invalid to you? I'll wager that you have never once in your adult life dropped to your knees in humble supplication to the Lord Jesus Christ, opened your heart to Him, asked Him to enter your heart and life and take command. If you had done that you would immediately see how silly all your words have been. This is the open secret all True Christians™ know - and you can too.

I'll pray you take that leap of faith!

Of course the word of God remains the same. It's a written religion. There's no "new bibles," and, if there was, it would be widely rejected. Science and real life is constantly thriving with new ideas. Science changes all the time because theories aren't always correct. That's why they change. TO MAKE THEM BETTER. Please, actually think. In a world with no God, where else is valid knowledge going to come from?

I know in MY HEART that Atheism is the correct way to be. I've been Christian before. As I've said in my main post. The thread starter. I simply converted because I saw no proof and all of it was just silly. Every bit of it. I really was a serious Christian. I didn't just try it out barely and give up. I got nothing from him. I prayed for little things, and got none. None at all. Atheism makes much more sense, anyhow. Don't assume what I "know in my heart" and what I don't.

[Can I justify that]

Re: Hello.

You are just confusing yourself here. Now you say you do not want to follow your own atheist laws, because in doing so you would be following religious law.

If there is no law for atheism, then way is that to be an atheist you cannot believe in God. To believe in God would then be breaking your atheist law.

Okay, sure, the "what makes you Atheist" is the only rule. Boo hoo. That's just the unspoken rule. Come on.

1. Using your own logic, since everyone does not believe in the big bang, then the big bang is not valid.

Have you ever looked at the chapters in the Bible. It is a collection of different sources. Like an encyclopedia. Again using your logic all encyclopedia's would be wrong because all the information came from the same text.

2. God does not equal science. God is the almighty, the creator of Heaven and earth. Science is not.

1. I wasn't saying the Big Bang was the proof that Atheism is the right religion. Don't put words in my mouth. And sure, okay, it came from a bunch of different people. But maybe those persons were just a group that was sick of the killing and convinced naive people to believe their story by writing a huge book. Think about that. Be open minded for once.

2. Thank you for reiterating what I said you were implying with your poor logic.

[landoverlover]

Re: Hello.

1. Definitions of Religion on the Web: A religion is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a supernatural agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

So yes, by the definition of religion, Atheism is a religion.

2. Don't be smart with me, I meant I don't want to follow the rules set by OTHER religions, with Gods. Again, Atheism is a SPECIAL religion. You choose your path. There are no laws for Atheism, I was talking about the Justice System.

You miss the entire point. There's what you know and what you show. You get so wrapped up in words in some so-called science book that you miss the forest for the trees. You seem to think that valid knowledge only comes from the scientific method. What science declares as 'truth' changes all the time. The Revealed Word™ of the Lord God does not.

What you need to focus on is what you KNOW IN YOUR HEART. Why is that invalid to you? I'll wager that you have never once in your adult life dropped to your knees in humble supplication to the Lord Jesus Christ, opened your heart to Him, asked Him to enter your heart and life and take command. If you had done that you would immediately see how silly all your words have been. This is the open secret all True Christians™ know - and you can too.

I'll pray you take that leap of faith!

[Lisa H]

Re: Hello.

1. That's from the BIBLE. You can't use your own belief as your proof. You have to use something in which everyone believes in order for your point to be valid. That's just some text in a book.

Oh, but I guess you're right. It's true because some book says so.

2. It is most certainly not proving how "God created the heaven and the earth," it is proving how it REALLY was formed. You're implying the "Big Bang," which is a theory, is what God is, and that's all he is. If theories like that explain how God created everything, then God = Science and nothing more. Nothing less.

1. Using your own logic, since everyone does not believe in the big bang, then the big bang is not valid.

Have you ever looked at the chapters in the Bible. It is a collection of different sources. Like an encyclopedia. Again using your logic all encyclopedia's would be wrong because all the information came from the same text.

2. God does not equal science. God is the almighty, the creator of Heaven and earth. Science is not.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Hello.

Errr... Just because it's written in the bible that god created all, that means it's true? Humans have all the bad things in them like greed, hatred, etc. The bible was written by a human, right? So who's to say the bible writer was evil, and wanted to gain something by making a fairytale?

So you want to say that God Almighty, creator of the known universe, is an evil bastard?

[Lisa H]

Re: Hello.

1. Definitions of Religion on the Web: A religion is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a supernatural agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

So yes, by the definition of religion, Atheism is a religion.

2. Don't be smart with me, I meant I don't want to follow the rules set by OTHER religions, with Gods. Again, Atheism is a SPECIAL religion. You choose your path. There are no laws for Atheism, I was talking about the Justice System.

You are just confusing yourself here. Now you say you do not want to follow your own atheist laws, because in doing so you would be following religious law.

If there is no law for atheism, then way is that to be an atheist you cannot believe in God. To believe in God would then be breaking your atheist law.

[Moogitar (On Moderation)]

Re: Hello.

Errr... Just because it's written in the bible that god created all, that means it's true? Humans have all the bad things in them like greed, hatred, etc. The bible was written by a human, right? So who's to say the bible writer was evil, and wanted to gain something by making a fairytale?

[Can I justify that]

Re: Hello.

I have proof God created the world.

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth

As for your science theories, all they are doing is trying to prove how the world works. Guess what! It is proving how God has made everything works.

Did you know aliens do exist, they are just people who live illegally in a country. Not some other planet in some galaxy far far far away.

1. That's from the BIBLE. You can't use your own belief as your proof. You have to use something in which everyone believes in order for your point to be valid. That's just some text in a book.

Oh, but I guess you're right. It's true because some book says so.

2. It is most certainly not proving how "God created the heaven and the earth," it is proving how it REALLY was formed. You're implying the "Big Bang," which is a theory, is what God is, and that's all he is. If theories like that explain how God created everything, then God = Science and nothing more. Nothing less.

[Lisa H]

Re: Hello.

You act like there's something wrong with theories. Really, think about it. No God. No one to tell you how you were formed, what species you're defined as, in maybe some animal kingdom with millions of species of animals there may have been, there are many possibilities. Lots of things you don't know about. That's what theories do. If enough evidence is there to explain it, then it's seen as what it is as long as it makes enough sense. God isn't getting us anywhere. Science is. Eventually, with Science, we will be able to migrate to new planets and solar systems, and maybe one day conquer the universe with our species. Otherwise, with the belief of God, we're just going to rot here on Earth and everyone will die. Seems a lot better right?

And no, that's only your opinion on how the world was created. You have no proof.

I have proof God created the world.

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth

As for your science theories, all they are doing is trying to prove how the world works. Guess what! It is proving how God has made everything works.

Did you know aliens do exist, they are just people who live illegally in a country. Not some other planet in some galaxy far far far away.

[Can I justify that]

Re: Hello.

Now lets clear something up.

1. You claimed atheism is a religion.
2. You follow state laws written by atheists.

Therefore you are following religious laws.

1. Definitions of Religion on the Web: A religion is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a supernatural agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

So yes, by the definition of religion, Atheism is a religion.

2. Don't be smart with me, I meant I don't want to follow the rules set by OTHER religions, with Gods. Again, Atheism is a SPECIAL religion. You choose your path. There are no laws for Atheism, I was talking about the Justice System.

[Can I justify that]

Re: Hello.

That's all that needs to be said. It is MERE THEORY not a REAL ANSWER.



YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

God is just a theory, too. The only proof you have is how many people believe in him and the Bible, which could have EASILY been written by someone ages ago.

If you haven't made the connection yet, theories help us understand life. Without science, we would be very primitive. Theory has helped us advance. Why don't you think about that?