[Imam Rashik]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

My introduction doesn't insult you. If you scroll down, I think you'll find that I am correct in assuming none of your semi-uneducated kind know what Astrophysics are.

You see, because I don't want you referancing the Bible, and the only evidence that the Earth was made by God is in the Bible. Therefore telling me to look around doesn't support anything. Try to prove God made the Earth WITHOUT referencing the Bible...

This goes for the same as above. Anything to do with God making the Earth is a moot point, seeings as the only proof of him doing so is written in a very out-dated religious text. Let's see some secular evidence.

Lastly, I have better manners then you, friend. At least I haven't resorted to uncivilized insults yet, unlike yourself...Not a good way to win a debate.

I have already shown you Allah(pbuh) (the one you call God) is evidenced in The Holy Quran. Like a fool you have ignored what I shown you.

More proof

SURA 1. AL-FATIHA (THE OPENING)
1. In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
2. All praise is due to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds.
3. The Beneficent, the Merciful.
4. Master of the Day of Judgment.
5. Thee do we serve and Thee do we beseech for help.
6. Keep us on the right path.
7. The path of those upon whom Thou hast bestowed favors. Not [the path] of those upon whom Thy wrath is brought down, nor of those who go astray.

[Jedediah]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

How can we possibly hate you when we want nothing more than for you to fill your heart with Jesus so that you can join us in Heaven for all eternity? We are filled with True Christian Love™ for you, and we want to help you find Salvation®.

The ones who hate you are those who would encourage you in your sin and lure you to place further distance between yourself and your Creator. You should be rebuking these wicked influences in your life rather than those who want you join them for eternity, singing praises.

James 4:4
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

I too used to wallow in the homosexual deathstyle, but then I asked Jesus to enter me and fill me with the Holy Spirit. I chose Jesus, and so can you. I also used to study secular science. But then after an all-night conversation with Jesus, He revealed to me that I should commit myself to reproving the false doctrines of secular "science" and learn Bible-based True Science™.

I Timothy 6:20-21
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

Going through three months of intense sexual reorientation therapy (followed by years of follow-up treatment/counseling/prayer) and pursuing my PhD/ThD in Young Earth Geology/Apologetics have shaped into the Tool of Jesus© that I am today. Armed with the Word of God, I use my vast knowledge and experience to enact the Will of God.

Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

God has obviously brought you here for a reason, and I hope that it is in His Plan that you may find Salvation® with the fellowship, guidance and tutelage of Landover Baptist Church.

Would you like to apologize for your hurtful words now and start off on a better foot? Perhaps you can start by confessing in detail your sin and wantonness and telling us how you are ready to set it all aside and seek the Face of the LORD.

My family and I will pray for you.

[verbicide]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

The problem with this is that none here really care what you are willing to accept as evidence or not. You atheists are all alike, really. You seek to dictate terms under which God can and can't be defined. You think the Bible is what makes us believe in God and continuously seek to undermine it and our faith. It's stupid logic like yours that will ultimately send you Hell forever. You have absolutely no idea what Christian Faith is all about.

I don't believe in God because of the Bible. It was the grace of God that opened my heart and planted the initial seed of Faith. The Bible is what teaches me and guides my growth as a Christian.

You're the first God lover on here who's actually spoken calmly and with reason. In another life, you might have made a wonderful scientist. However, I am inclined to dissagree with blind faith, especially since I am told god hates me for being gay, though I can feel that if there were a god, I would be doing the right thing. How can you people presume that what is written in the bible is the only word of god? If you say to me that you feel god is inside you, in your heart, then can I not also say that he is with me?
Although any of you would disagree. Because I am homosexual, apparently your god discriminates against me. Well, I'll be dammned If I am ever to blindly follow such an intolerant, American God as the one you all presume to be truthful.

As I've said, the words of God, as written in the bible sound a lot more like Satan's hateful messages then the scriptures of an all powerful being.

[Lisa H]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

Since you do not trust a man's word, here is one from a woman. God is real.

Interesting how you never replied to me for this comment.

[James Hutchins]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

............Although any of you would disagree. Because I am homosexual, apparently your god discriminates against me. Well, I'll be dammned If I am ever to blindly follow such an intolerant, American God as the one you all presume to be truthful............

Ah, the real reason for all the hate. Because you are a Homer, you know God will not accept you, so you lash out.

By the way, we do not blindly follow God. Also, there is only one God, not just one for America.

Do you obeys all the laws of your country? Or do you break any of them because you are above them?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

I'm homosexual, Athiest, and have a PHD in Astrophysics (although I know you have no idea what that is.)

Thanks for assuming we're all idiots. Is your degree focused on theoretical or observational astrophysics? What is your area of expertise?

By the way, let us know when you learn how to spell "atheist".

Oh, and "atheist" is not a proper noun, thus not capitalized, any more than "theist" is. You also used it as an adjective by your sentence structure . . . and there's no such thing as a "proper adjective" that requires capitalization. But I suppose you knew that, being our intellectual superior and all.

So, nice to meet you all, however much I know I will get flamed.

Opening with insults, and somehow you expect to be "flamed"? How could it be?

Don't worry, my God-mocking, sodomite friend. God will take care of the flaming.

ANSWER ALL MY QUESTIONS WITHOUT REFERENCING THE BIBLE AT ALL. This will be a challenge for you, I know.

Not even a "please", you barge into a Christian church's private discussion forum, uninvited and unwelcome, and make demands as though you have authority here.

Why is it you atheists have no manners whatsoever? Were you raised in a trailer, perhaps? Or was it more a barn? By wolves, maybe?

Did you bother to read any part of this forum before posting the same questions that have been answered here ad nauseam on a daily basis for years?

Perhaps an admin can retitle this thread to a far more accurate, "You people are going to pity me, yet find me tiresome, classless, and boring."

[Nobar King]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

Alas, just the degree. It's difficult to find work in such a specific field, though I will soon be publishing a paper on the possibilities of Negative Speed which I hope will reel in a few job-offers.

What's the problem, they don't hire fag astrophysicists? Or maybe you just don't meet their level of sophistication?

I hope any potential employer of yours has enough common sense to go online and read this testimony of yours before they commit to hire someone who is so intolerant.

[Palmer C. Eldrich]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

the possibilities of Negative Speed which I hope will reel in a few job-offers.

Are you pushing drugs, or something? Will negative speed help me dance better?

[verbicide]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

Are you for real? You did insult me. You made assumptions that I am uneducated, big mistake. I have a double masters from Princeton. Not that that matters.
I made nary a single mention of the Bible. You tell me how my answer was wrong. What proof do you have that I am incorrect? Saying 'No' does not cut it friend.
I made no insults. Your first post is pompous and boorish. And this is not a debate. You asked some questions, I answered them. Done.
I suggest you re-read the tile of this thread. Argumentative from the get go.

A Double Masters? If it's in the field of anything to do with the bible, I am unimpressed. Studying ONE book doesn't make you educated.

Proof that god did not make the Earth and the universe? Alright, I'll name them in point form for if I am to describe each one, this post will be to long to read, though perhaps long enough to publish as a novel (Of which there have been MANY)

-Dinosaurs and fossils
-Carbon dating
-Appendixes (which are no longer needed because we have EVOLVED, rendering them unnessicary)
-Mutations (A series of which is what we call EVOLUTION)
-Background radiation
-Stars and Galaxies
-Stellar drift

To name a FEW. I can provide you with links if needed.

Yes this is a debate
Yes pompus and boorish are insults
and YES you made mention of the bible by stating god made the world. What I am saying is that there is no PROOF of this OTHER THEN THE BIBLE'S WORDS.

Would you like to try and provide some?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

-Dinosaurs and fossils
-Carbon dating
-Appendixes (which are no longer needed because we have EVOLVED, rendering them unnessicary)
-Mutations (A series of which is what we call EVOLUTION)
-Background radiation
-Stars and Galaxies
-Stellar drift

None of these prove God did not create the universe.

How do any of them prove God did not create the universe?

[James Dewitt]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

A degree in astrophysics and a buck will get you a cup of coffee. I am a Christian, home schooled, and own my own little company. Makes one wonder just who God smiles upon.

Why do all atheists require that we prove God exists? Seems to me that they should prove that He does not. Isn't the burden of proof on the accuser?

[Lisa H]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

...

So when are you going to answer me. Are you just another woman hating gay?

[verbicide]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

Thanks for assuming we're all idiots. Is your degree focused on theoretical or observational astrophysics? What is your area of expertise?

By the way, let us know when you learn how to spell "atheist".

Oh, and "atheist" is not a proper noun, thus not capitalized, any more than "theist" is. You also used it as an adjective by your sentence structure . . . and there's no such thing as a "proper adjective" that requires capitalization. But I suppose you knew that, being our intellectual superior and all.


Opening with insults, and somehow you expect to be "flamed"? How could it be?

Don't worry, my God-mocking, sodomite friend. God will take care of the flaming.


Not even a "please", you barge into a Christian church's private discussion forum, uninvited and unwelcome, and make demands as though you have authority here.

Why is it you atheists have no manners whatsoever? Were you raised in a trailer, perhaps? Or was it more a barn? By wolves, maybe?

Did you bother to read any part of this forum before posting the same questions that have been answered here ad nauseam on a daily basis for years?

Perhaps an admin can retitle this thread to a far more accurate, "You people are going to pity me, yet find me tiresome, classless, and boring."

Excuse my use of poor grammar.

I am a theoretical Physicist, who's real world applications happen to be in Space.

I am not a sodomite, actually I'm technically a virgin. (I'm female)

I see no insults in my initial post, however, you've done nothing but insult me, over and over...

If my questions have been answered before, do you mind linking me to them? Or maybe even if you could answer them yourself?

PS. I AM welcome. In fact it even says so at the top of this page..

[verbicide]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

So when are you going to answer me. Are you just another woman hating gay?

I AM a woman.
When I say there is no man who's words I trust, what I mean to say is that there is no member of mankind who's words I trust, which includes women.
Not only this, but the reason you believe in god is because of the bible, which was written by four MEN.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

Excuse my use of poor grammar.

I am a theoretical Physicist, who's real world applications happen to be in Space.

"Whose." "Who's" is a contraction of "who is". "Space" and "physicist" are not proper nouns.

Is German your first language?

Did they bother to teach you English in this PhD program of yours?

I am not a sodomite, actually I'm technically a virgin. (I'm female)

I see no insults in my initial post, however, you've done nothing but insult me, over and over...

You assumed we were all too stupid to know what astrophysics is. That is an insult.

If my questions have been answered before, do you mind linking me to them? Or maybe even if you could answer them yourself?

Or maybe you could try using the handy-dandy SEARCH function. Did your professors have to spoon-feed you as much as you expect us to?

PS. I AM welcome. In fact it even says so at the top of this page..

It says, "Unsaved Unwelcome".

You are unsaved. Therefore, you are unwelcome.