[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Blessings from Europe

Please show me scripture which states people suffering from gender dysphoria (transsexuals) cannot enter heaven.
There is none such, because they refer to either crossdressing or homosexuality while scientific research clearly indicates that the brains of male-to female transsexuals are indeed female. A female brain and soul in a male body.

Scientific research also "proves" such monstrous lies as evolution and global warming. Meanwhile, the Bible proves that God created humanity as male and female, with no intermediate forms:

Genesis 1:27: So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Genesis 2:21-23: And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This [is] now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

Mark 10:6: But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

Are you saying that Almighty God botched it? As for whether a shemale will inherit the kingdom of God, explain how "effeminate" in the following passage doesn't apply:

1 Cor. 6:9-10: Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

[Venus Castina]

Re: Blessings from Europe

A science worshiping transexual, my goodness! Friend, you need to face facts. You are currently a disgusting homosexual who has chosen to spit directly into the face of God by not curing yourself of the disease you have chosen to infect yourself with.

Claiming to be a woman trapped in the body of a man is the oldest lie a queer ever told! Please, do us all a favor and simply admit that you are a sodomite.

How hypocritical
Right without science you would die. The computer you use, the house you live in, the clothes you wear, the food you eat, the Bible you read. It is all made possible by science. You too worship science.

There is a difference between gender identity and sexual preference sweetheart. That said, God made me this way. You really think I choose to be this way? No I am born this way.

Scientific research also "proves" such monstrous lies as evolution and global warming. Meanwhile, the Bible proves that God created humanity as male and female, with no intermediate forms:

Are you saying that Almighty God botched it? As for whether a shemale will inherit the kingdom of God, explain how "effeminate" in the following passage doesn't apply:

1 Cor. 6:9-10: Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

The same scripture also say you cannot be Jesus follower if you do not give away all your property. That said, where is transsexuality mentioned in that scripture? There is also a difference between "shemale" (shiver) and "transsexual".

Luke 14:33

So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

Have you done this?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Blessings from Europe

Oh my, what a hostility here. I was under the impression the lessons of Christ means love.

Don't you worry, I am not a "shemale". The word alone makes me shiver involuntary.
Does it really matter waht country I come from? Like an ancient phylosopher once said: "I am not a citizen of this city, nor of this country. I am a citizen of this world". If you really wish to know, I am Dutch, but live everywhere my work takes me.
I go to church at the local evangelic society but because of my many travels I am not bound to 1 place, 1 church. Some people say church is the only place to honour God. I say it is here and now. "For it is far better to have one thankful glance towards the heavens than to utter a thousand dishonest prairs."

I quote from the State translation from 1618:
"En gevraagd zijnde van de farizeeën, wanneer het Koninkrijk Gods komen zou, heeft Hij hun geantwoord en gezegd: Het Koninkrijk Gods komt niet met uiterlijk gelaat. En men zal niet zeggen: Ziet hier, of ziet daar, want, ziet, het Koninkrijk Gods is binnen ulieden."

Luke 18, 20-21

This is an AMERICAN Christian forum. Speak AMERICAN, because it is God's favorite language.

[Professor Bessemer]

Re: Blessings from Europe

How hypocritical
Right without science you would die. The computer you use, the house you live in, the clothes you wear, the food you eat, the Bible you read. It is all made possible by science. You too worship science.

I have no use for science, I am a Scientheist. Any so called scientific advancement is simply God inspiring a simple man with His holy insights. I suppose you think Thomas Edison invented the light bulb with inspiration from the Lord. Preposterous! Perhaps you've heard this somewhere before?

And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Genesis 1:3

There is a difference between gender identity and sexual preference sweetheart. That said, God made me this way. You really think I choose to be this way? No I am born this way.

Ah, this old straw man! You transexual queers are the most sinister of all! You claim not to be a sodomite? Tell me friend, do you have sexual relations with men? Have you received any erect penises into your colon or mouth? Were you born with a penis? If so, you are gay, pure and simple.

I should know friend, I have probably taken in more semen both anally and orally than you could ever imagine! During one twenty four hour period in 1984, I had sexual congress with 126 visiting sodomite sailors in a bathhouse in Sausalito, California. It was covered in a local gay free newspaper at the time. The headline read "Bessemer Bangs Boatload, Begs for More!"

But I am now cured of my disease, and am 100% heterosexual! There is hope for you as well, should you care to have eternal life at Jesus' right hand! Come, join us here at Landover and reject you homosexual lifestyle! Praise!

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Blessings from Europe

The same scripture also say you cannot be Jesus follower if you do not give away all your property. That said, where is transsexuality mentioned in that scripture? There is also a difference between "shemale" (shiver) and "transsexual".

Luke 14:33

So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

Have you done this?

I can't help noticing that you haven't even attempted to explain away the Scripture that I've cited against your lifestyle choice, so instead you snip most of them and then change the subject. As for whether transsexuality is specifically mentioned in Scripture, what of it? Once the Bible sets forth a general principle, it doesn't have to go into every conceivable detail. You might as well say that stealing a Mercedes is okay because while the Bible says, "Thou shalt not steal," it doesn't specifically say, "Thou shalt not steal a Mercedes."

As for your citation of Luke 14:33, I have a fun new idea: Let's read it in context.

Luke 14:28-33: For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have [sufficient] to finish [it]? Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish [it], all that behold [it] begin to mock him, Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish. Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand? Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace. So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

That changes the meaning from your spin, now, doesn't it?

[Oliver Brendan Hayve]

Re: Blessings from Europe

Hi, Venus:

I don't think you'll get very far trying to talk any sense into the heads of the Landover Baptists. Their world view is organized around the Bible, the whole Bible, and nothing but the Bible. You may be used to dealing with cultural-Christian bliss ninnies who pick and choose which parts of the Bible to follow and then reinterpret even those to suit them, but the people who run this discussion board are nothing like that.

[Bible Student]

Re: Blessings from Europe

Let us look at the original Bible, from which the KJV is derived:


SPIRITVM NOLITE EXTINGVERE
PROPHETIAS NOLITE SPERNERE
OMNIA AVTEM PROBATE: QVOD BONVM EST TENETE.

You don't know much about the Bible, do you? The Old Testament was written in Hebrew and the New Testament was written in Greek. Your Latin text is nothing near original. It comes from a 17th century copy, of a copy, of a copy, of a copy of what we have of Jerome's Latin Vulgate. It isn't even the original Latin Vulgate, which would not have that punctuation nor breaks between words.

For those who don't recognize the verses they are from:

I Thessalonians 5:19-21 -- Quench not the Spirit. Despise not prophesyings. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

[Bible Student]

Re: Blessings from Europe

Originally Posted by Venus Castina
Let us look at the original Bible, from which the KJV is derived:


SPIRITVM NOLITE EXTINGVERE
PROPHETIAS NOLITE SPERNERE
OMNIA AVTEM PROBATE: QVOD BONVM EST TENETE.

Mein Gott, Senor-Senora, do you think you are the only person who speaks other languages here? De te fabula narratur!



YiC,

Z. Smyth

And Marx wrote that Latin quote in a German book for good measure.