Hello

[Valaquenta]

Hi,

I don't really know what to put as I have been brought up as non religious so that I can 'make up my own mind when I am older' about whether I wish to pursue religion.

I know I'm likely to receive a bit on condemnation for this as this is a religious forum and I suppose some would feel offended that I have come here in order to explore Christianity further through those who know it best, as opposed to going to church. I don't want to commit myself to acting like a Christian until I am able to feel the truth of it. I'm going to hell at the moment anyways, don't want to make it any worse by attempting to 'get into heaven' through falsifying a faith in something I don't fully believe in.

So yeah... Hello

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Hello

Hi,

I don't really know what to put as I have been brought up as non religious so that I can 'make up my own mind when I am older' about whether I wish to pursue religion.

I know I'm likely to receive a bit on condemnation for this as this is a religious forum and I suppose some would feel offended that I have come here in order to explore Christianity further through those who know it best, as opposed to going to church. I don't want to commit myself to acting like a Christian until I am able to feel the truth of it. I'm going to hell at the moment anyways, don't want to make it any worse by attempting to 'get into heaven' through falsifying a faith in something I don't fully believe in.

So yeah... Hello

Well I hate to say this to you, but unless you commit yourself 100% to Jesus, you're just wasting your time and are a Hell bound sinner.

Now if you are SERIOUS about becoming a Christian, then you need to find yourself an Independent Baptist Church who uses the KJV1611 Bible. If you ask that pastor for a Bible, he will give you one for free.


Once you have read the entire Bible and are committed to living according to the rules set out within its pages, then get yourself baptized.

It's just that simple

[James Hutchins]

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Pretty simple, you become a True Chrsitian(tm) and you go to Heaven. Otherwise, you go to Hell.

I sincerely think that baby Jesus is not going to wan to have you feel Him up as He is not a Homer.

Perhaps you need to read the KJV Bible a few times to get a good idea what God expects from you.

[Valaquenta]

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Pretty simple, you become a True Chrsitian™ and you go to Heaven. Otherwise, you go to Hell.

Well yeah I know that already but to become a True Christian™ I'd have to fully commit myself to the religion and I am not there yet, hence coming here to ask for clarification on things I don't understand and advice.

I sincerely think that baby Jesus is not going to wan to have you feel Him up as He is not a Homer.

I'm neither a girl or a pedophile so no worries about me feeling up baby Jesus or the hypothetical situation causing him to become a homo.

Perhaps you need to read the KJV Bible a few times to get a good idea what God expects from you.

Thank you for the advice.

Well I hate to say this to you, but unless you commit yourself 100% to Jesus, you're just wasting your time and are a Hell bound sinner.

Which is why I joined this forum. I don't think just reading the bible a few times is going to instantly convert me, especially if there are things I misinterpret or don't understand in their true light. And I stated before that I know I'm bound for hell unless I'm 100% committed so I might as well do my best to understand as much as I can in order to cement that commitment.

If you'll excuse the language; I'm screwed if I don't, if I pretend or if I fail but fear of hell isn't enough to cause instant belief in me. I want to understand the belief system I would be committing to, the book that would lead my life and the people I would share eternity with as much as I am able.

I may end up discovering that there are things which clash with the way I was raised, or my current beliefs in which case to Hell I'd go anyway. I figure that if I'm bound for Hell at the moment anyway then I can't make it any worse by understanding what makes someone a True Christian™. And I discover that I am unable to commit myself fully I'm no worse off than I was where I started so at least I tried. (And someone is going to say that if I truly tried I would definitely succeed and if I fail that I didn't try at all or something along those lines. But keep in mind that some people aren't cut out to be True Christians™, some people have to fail or everyone would end up in Heaven.)

[BelieverInGod]

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If you'll excuse the language; I'm screwed if I don't, if I pretend or if I fail but fear of hell isn't enough to cause instant belief in me. I want to understand the belief system I would be committing to, the book that would lead my life and the people I would share eternity with as much as I am able.

Bluntly, it's faith. It's the faith that a toddler has when they leap at you from the top of a set of stairs, knowing that you will catch them. It's the faith that a child has in it's mothers love. It is faith so pure that there is absolutely no doubt that God is not there for you each and every step of the way. After all Jesus made us that promise!

Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

So as long as you obey God's laws and have faith, nothing can stand in your way!

[GodIsWinning]

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But keep in mind that some people aren't cut out to be True Christians™, some people have to fail or everyone would end up in Heaven.)

There is no excuse for not seeing the light. Everyone should try but you're probably right that some just don't have a hope. Mexicans, for example, are often too lazy. I'd disagree with you on saying that some people have to fail. If Christians made up the whole world we might just reach perfection.

[Katander]

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If you really are that desperate for an emotional crutch why not explore outside Christianity and the USA...

Here are just a few you can check out:
There’s Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism and of course communism.

There are lots of other superstitions I haven’t mentioned so go have some fun checking them all out.

P.S.
I heard the Spaghetti monster one was a good choice if you like Italian food.

[wait_what]

Re: Hello

Which is why I joined this forum. I don't think just reading the bible a few times is going to instantly convert me, especially if there are things I misinterpret or don't understand in their true light. And I stated before that I know I'm bound for hell unless I'm 100% committed so I might as well do my best to understand as much as I can in order to cement that commitment.

If you'll excuse the language; I'm screwed if I don't, if I pretend or if I fail but fear of hell isn't enough to cause instant belief in me. I want to understand the belief system I would be committing to, the book that would lead my life and the people I would share eternity with as much as I am able.

I may end up discovering that there are things which clash with the way I was raised, or my current beliefs in which case to Hell I'd go anyway. I figure that if I'm bound for Hell at the moment anyway then I can't make it any worse by understanding what makes someone a True Christian™. And I discover that I am unable to commit myself fully I'm no worse off than I was where I started so at least I tried. (And someone is going to say that if I truly tried I would definitely succeed and if I fail that I didn't try at all or something along those lines. But keep in mind that some people aren't cut out to be True Christians™, some people have to fail or everyone would end up in Heaven.)

First off, read the Bible and take it literally. Why would He want to hide anything from us?

Second, you WILL find beliefs that clash with the way you were raised. You were raised to be a slothful godmocking heathen. You want to change that. Know that these things take work, pain, and sacrifice. It will not be easy, but it will be worth it.

Think friend, if science tripled your life expectancy, you might see 240 years old. That is still a blink of an eye on a fly compared to eternity.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Hello

If you really are that desperate for an emotional crutch why not explore outside Christianity and the USA...

Here are just a few you can check out:
There’s Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism and of course communism.

There are lots of other superstitions I haven’t mentioned so go have some fun checking them all out.

P.S.
I heard the Spaghetti monster one was a good choice if you like Italian food.

Might as well eat drink and be merry, for when you die you all end up in the same place

that may have been too close to scripture for comfort.

[Valaquenta]

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I'm not sure if it is because I haven't been brought up in a religious household to believe that everyone who doesn't believe as I do is in-errantly worthless in comparison, and I am aware that in your personal opinion stating that someone is a "slothful godmocking heathen" purely because they don't believe the way you do is, to you, a statement of fact and not intended as an insult.
Regardless of this it seems like my venture into this forum was a bad idea, and that only people who are fully committed to God are welcome here.

I wasn't looking for an emotional crutch. I was interested in learning more about Christianity as I had felt a pull towards it. I feel insulted that you assumed that was my reason.

I am going to ask the moderators to delete my account. I will take your advice about reading the KJV 1611 bible and shall look forward to returning when I have earned my place amongst you.

[Zechariah Smyth]

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I'm not sure if it is because I haven't been brought up in a religious household to believe that everyone who doesn't believe as I do is in-errantly worthless in comparison, and I am aware that in your personal opinion stating that someone is a "slothful godmocking heathen" purely because they don't believe the way you do is, to you, a statement of fact and not intended as an insult.
Regardless of this it seems like my venture into this forum was a bad idea, and that only people who are fully committed to God are welcome here.

I wasn't looking for an emotional crutch. I was interested in learning more about Christianity as I had felt a pull towards it. I feel insulted that you assumed that was my reason.

I am going to ask the moderators to delete my account. I will take your advice about reading the KJV 1611 bible and shall look forward to returning when I have earned my place amongst you.

Make sure and come back here after you have read the Bible...I am sure you will have many comments and questions.

My advice to you is to have a notebook handy where you can jot down the most moving and exhilarating parts.

As for yahoos telling you to study boodism and towelism and mooslimism and semolinaism and etc. etc., read this:

(Colossians 2:8) "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Corina]

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hi!
Corinthians 13:8

"Love is patience, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always preserves. Love never fails..."

[Zechariah Smyth]

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hi!
Corinthians 13:8

"Love is patience, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always preserves. Love never fails..."

And almost immediately a cherry-picking fluffy bunny sprouts from the wretched abyss and not only gets everything wrong (it's 1 Corinthians, and it starts at 13:4 and ENDS at 13:7), but to top it off they use a PERversion of the Bible that will ensure they baste in brimstone for Eternity.

Enjoy Hell, you painted harlot of the night.



Look here for the purity and beauty and lyricism of the KJV:

(1 Corinthians 13:4-7) "Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things."

Or, you can trust some whore who traipses in here thinking they can Google their way to Salvation.

Your call.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[BelieverInGod]

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I'm not sure if it is because I haven't been brought up in a religious household to believe that everyone who doesn't believe as I do is in-errantly worthless in comparison, and I am aware that in your personal opinion stating that someone is a "slothful godmocking heathen" purely because they don't believe the way you do is, to you, a statement of fact and not intended as an insult.
Regardless of this it seems like my venture into this forum was a bad idea, and that only people who are fully committed to God are welcome here.

I was raised as a fuzzy bunny "God loves everyone" false christian. When the ministers start wiping the sweat from their brow whenever you approach them with a "what about this part" Bible question, you know you're in the wrong church.

As for people only fully committed to God being welcome here. Well, yet that is pretty much our feeling on the matter, because God tells us to keep separate from the unbeliever. We welcome people who come here hoping to learn in Earnest, but you seem afraid of letting go of the sickular world and immersing yourself in the love of Jesus.

John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

I wasn't looking for an emotional crutch. I was interested in learning more about Christianity as I had felt a pull towards it. I feel insulted that you assumed that was my reason.

That was one of the God-mockers who hang around here. They have an empty hole in their soul and think that turning anyone away from Jesus will get them a better seat in Hell.

I am going to ask the moderators to delete my account. I will take your advice about reading the KJV 1611 bible and shall look forward to returning when I have earned my place amongst you.

Well, we don't delete accounts, but you're welcome back with earnest questions. Please don't let one God-mocker turn you away. Read the KJV Bible in earnest and find out what it REALLY says, then you can decide for yourself.