[Bible Student]

Re: Evolution

Originally Posted by BelieverInGod
I didn't click on the link because, well I'm sick of seeing the porn that the unsaved trash seem to think we need to see. Anyway, I find it interesting that this conversation came up, as we were driving down the highway and during my silent driving prayers, a thought came to me.

The fact that humans are at the top PROVES that evilution is a lie. Look at us, we don't have sharp teeth or claws, we're built rather awkward and fall down a lot, our children are hopelessly dependent for at least the first 12 years of their lives. We're slow and we're weak and unlike other "prey" creatures, we don't breed 15 times a year with 10-100 children at a time.

Nope, if evolution was real, we would have died out on the plains of Africa after all of the lions and cheetahs discovered how much easier it was to kill one of us rather than an animal with hooves that can break a skull.

Actually if you studied evolution you would find that humans are remarkably adapted. We lost our fur

Tell me about it. My sweetie said something about losing her fur. Do you know how much a mink stole costs these days. Losing one's fur is never a good idea.

which allows us to regulate our body heat an incredible amount(allowing us to travel vast distances), our feet have been designed through evolution to be superb for sprinting and even climbing. Yes you're right, we don't have claws, nor very large canines but we do have something no other animal has which is a large cognitive brain(at our level).

Homo sapiens neanderthalensis also known as the Nephilim, which are mentioned in the Bible had a brain size ranging from about 1200 - 1750 ml which is about 100 ml larger than those of homo sapiens sapiens (that's us). And we know the Great Flood wiped out homo sapiens neanderthalensis. Apparently brain size isn't all those heathen, devil worshiping atheistic scientists make it out to be.

Genesis 6:4 -- There were Giants in the earth in those daies: and also after that, when the sonnes of God came in vnto the daughters of men, & they bare children to them; the same became mightie men, which were of old, men of renowme.

We can make weapons that are much more useful than claws(like spears for hunting), we were always a social animal we stuck together in groups kind of like a wolf-pack making it less likely that we would all die. we can track animals and make shelters out of very simple things. Simply putting a few branches in front of a cave mouth that's large enough will deter any large predators like a cheetah to attack inside because its too much work getting through the sticks and branches to even bother.

Yes our children are hopelessly dependent for a long time, but this is the drawback of evolving large brains. They need time to grow and fully develop. Unlike the human brain, the brain of a chimp grows relatively fast, but this is because it doesn't grow as big as ours so development can move quicker. Although we have found that if you were to take a chimp brain fatally and let it go 2 or 3 more rounds of division, it wouldn't be long till that chimp would be making symphonies and his own ideology(or following ours).

There you go comparing size again. Next you will be bragging about another part that is large.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Evolution

Actually if you studied evolution you would find that humans are remarkably adapted. We lost our fur which allows us to regulate our body heat an incredible amount(allowing us to travel vast distances), our feet have been designed through evolution to be superb for sprinting and even climbing. Yes you're right, we don't have claws, nor very large canines but we do have something no other animal has which is a large cognitive brain(at our level).

Actually fur works quite well as insulation, that's why we kill animals and use their fur. So no, I don't buy the "losing our fur was a good thing". As for sprinting, What's the record around 3.5 minute mile? I can't think of any predator that is that slow. Climbing? Compared to other animals (even the apes) we suck at it. Just ask any emergency doctor. Oh, and where did this magical brain come from? As for adaptability, why aren't rats running the show? I can't think of any animal that is more adaptable than a rat.

We can make weapons that are much more useful than claws(like spears for hunting), we were always a social animal we stuck together in groups kind of like a wolf-pack making it less likely that we would all die. we can track animals and make shelters out of very simple things. Simply putting a few branches in front of a cave mouth that's large enough will deter any large predators like a cheetah to attack inside because its too much work getting through the sticks and branches to even bother.

I'm sorry, but you're not selling it. We would have been eaten into extinction long before we figured out how to make a spear. A few branches? I think you've watched too many movies about cave men. Wolves are faster, stronger and have sharper teeth, acting like them is not going to protect a bunch of monkey men with pointy sticks.

Yes our children are hopelessly dependent for a long time, but this is the drawback of evolving large brains. They need time to grow and fully develop. Unlike the human brain, the brain of a chimp grows relatively fast, but this is because it doesn't grow as big as ours so development can move quicker. Although we have found that if you were to take a chimp brain fatally and let it go 2 or 3 more rounds of division, it wouldn't be long till that chimp would be making symphonies and his own ideology(or following ours).

Really? I thought you scientists say that chimps are as smart as we are. That it's just that they lack the vocalization skills. Isn't that why you're all running around in the bush trying to teach them sign language?

Anyway, as far as chimps go. People think they're the cute little animals they see in the movies. Even though they're the same size as us (approximately) they're strong enough to rip us from limb to limb. But yeah, humans climbed to the top in an ape eat ape world.


The ludicrousness of such a claim proves that God gave us our "giant brains" created some animals to be our assistants, and others to be our food, nothing else makes sense.

[Degenerate Godmocker]

Re: Evolution

What? Are you suddenly suffering from a psychotic break of some sort? What the hell does that sentence even mean?

And you think WE'RE insane?

Seriously, whatever meds you're off, go back on them. Quickly.

Brains go through cell division in the womb, the difference between chimp and human brains is that our brains divide 2 maybe 3 more times than that of the chimp brain. So if you were to extend chimp brain division to divide 2 or 3 extra times it would come out of the womb basically as a human baby with fur. And grow up with the ability to think like a human, write symphonies like a human, do math like a human, and so on.

[Brother Enoch]

Re: Evolution

Although we have found that if you were to take a chimp brain fatally and let it go 2 or 3 more rounds of division, it wouldn't be long till that chimp would be making symphonies and his own ideology(or following ours).

What? Are you suddenly suffering from a psychotic break of some sort? What the hell does that sentence even mean?

And you think WE'RE insane?

Seriously, whatever meds you're off, go back on them. Quickly.

[Degenerate Godmocker]

Re: Evolution

Look pal, if God orders it, it ain't murder.

All morality eminates from the Holy Bible. God taught us to hate queers, witches and all non-Christians. God is the one who temporarily killed His only begotten son for my sins, not Chuck Darwin.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Evolution

I never brought up the point of the Big Bang or Creation. It's just that you believe in a book that advocates such awful immoral things and yet you try and say that you have morality. The Bible is an awful place to get morals from. You should be locked up because without God you would be murdering and raping others.

Look pal, if God orders it, it ain't murder.

All morality eminates from the Holy Bible. God taught us to hate queers, witches and all non-Christians. God is the one who temporarily killed His only begotten son for my sins, not Chuck Darwin.

[Degenerate Godmocker]

Re: Evolution

I didn't click on the link because, well I'm sick of seeing the porn that the unsaved trash seem to think we need to see. Anyway, I find it interesting that this conversation came up, as we were driving down the highway and during my silent driving prayers, a thought came to me.

The fact that humans are at the top PROVES that evilution is a lie. Look at us, we don't have sharp teeth or claws, we're built rather awkward and fall down a lot, our children are hopelessly dependent for at least the first 12 years of their lives. We're slow and we're weak and unlike other "prey" creatures, we don't breed 15 times a year with 10-100 children at a time.

Nope, if evolution was real, we would have died out on the plains of Africa after all of the lions and cheetahs discovered how much easier it was to kill one of us rather than an animal with hooves that can break a skull.

Actually if you studied evolution you would find that humans are remarkably adapted. We lost our fur which allows us to regulate our body heat an incredible amount(allowing us to travel vast distances), our feet have been designed through evolution to be superb for sprinting and even climbing. Yes you're right, we don't have claws, nor very large canines but we do have something no other animal has which is a large cognitive brain(at our level).

We can make weapons that are much more useful than claws(like spears for hunting), we were always a social animal we stuck together in groups kind of like a wolf-pack making it less likely that we would all die. we can track animals and make shelters out of very simple things. Simply putting a few branches in front of a cave mouth that's large enough will deter any large predators like a cheetah to attack inside because its too much work getting through the sticks and branches to even bother.

Yes our children are hopelessly dependent for a long time, but this is the drawback of evolving large brains. They need time to grow and fully develop. Unlike the human brain, the brain of a chimp grows relatively fast, but this is because it doesn't grow as big as ours so development can move quicker. Although we have found that if you were to take a chimp brain fatally and let it go 2 or 3 more rounds of division, it wouldn't be long till that chimp would be making symphonies and his own ideology(or following ours).

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Evolution

I didn't click on the link because, well I'm sick of seeing the porn that the unsaved trash seem to think we need to see. Anyway, I find it interesting that this conversation came up, as we were driving down the highway and during my silent driving prayers, a thought came to me.

The fact that humans are at the top PROVES that evilution is a lie. Look at us, we don't have sharp teeth or claws, we're built rather awkward and fall down a lot, our children are hopelessly dependent for at least the first 12 years of their lives. We're slow and we're weak and unlike other "prey" creatures, we don't breed 15 times a year with 10-100 children at a time.

Nope, if evolution was real, we would have died out on the plains of Africa after all of the lions and cheetahs discovered how much easier it was to kill one of us rather than an animal with hooves that can break a skull.

[Degenerate Godmocker]

Re: Evolution

Nonsense. I have no urge to do any of those things. I'm not an atheist.

Interesting because I've gone through a few debates in real life where the other person(usually a christian/muslim) literally told me that "I don't see how you can not believe in God, if I didn't believe in God there would be no point in living and I'd just murder people all I fucking wanted to". Yet I've never met an atheist or agnostic or a simple deist say that.

I see. We should be in an asylum because we believe God created the universe, but you are completely sane because you believe a whole bunch of nothing decided to become something for no reason at all about 13 billion years ago?

I never brought up the point of the Big Bang or Creation. It's just that you believe in a book that advocates such awful immoral things and yet you try and say that you have morality. The Bible is an awful place to get morals from. You should be locked up because without God you would be murdering and raping others.

*backs away from the crazy person*[/QUOTE]

[Brother Enoch]

Re: Evolution

The point is that you guys don't have any moral compass.
The only thing keeping you from raping, murdering, and performing incest is thinking you're going to hell or something. It's quite pathetic that god is the only thing keeping you from doing that.

Nonsense. I have no urge to do any of those things. I'm not an atheist.

You are all honestly insane and you should be locked away in an asylum for the rest of your lives.

I see. We should be in an asylum because we believe God created the universe, but you are completely sane because you believe a whole bunch of nothing decided to become something for no reason at all about 13 billion years ago?

*backs away from the crazy person*

[Degenerate Godmocker]

Re: Evolution

So no point then? Alrighty then. Thanks for stopping by.

The point is that you guys don't have any moral compass.
The only thing keeping you from raping, murdering, and performing incest is thinking you're going to hell or something. It's quite pathetic that god is the only thing keeping you from doing that.

You are all honestly insane and you should be locked away in an asylum for the rest of your lives.

[Brother Enoch]

Re: Evolution

LOL AND YOU THINK YOU HAVE A MORAL COMPASS HAHA.
This forum is so hilarious.

So no point then? Alrighty then. Thanks for stopping by.

[Degenerate Godmocker]

Re: Evolution

What's you're point?

LOL AND YOU THINK YOU HAVE A MORAL COMPASS HAHA.
This forum is so hilarious.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Evolution

morality doesn't exist without god eh?
actually the bible itself talks about how salvation is by grace and good works is not enough for salvation. so those not saved, can still do good works. There are a wide number of non religious charities and aid organizations. If you're looking for morality, i'd steer clear from the bible.

the Bible advocates rape, genocide, incest, slavery, etc etc etc. The list goes on.

Of course atheists CAN do good works. They just have no reason to. They believe in evilution and worship their monkey ancestors. Atheism is a form of paganism. It is a cult of human sacrifice, because it embraces survival of the fittest. In Christianity, we don't need human sacrifice because we accept the temporary human sacrifice of Jesus.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Evolution

the Bible advocates rape, genocide, incest, slavery, etc etc etc. The list goes on.

What's you're point?