[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Hello Christians

Eve ate the forbidden fruit of knowledge, but was tempted into it by the snake, who was the Devil in disguise,

Here's your first correction: Where in the Bible does it say that the serpent was Satan?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Hello Christians

Like I said, I am by no means a expert in the meanings and workings of the bible, but this is just what I got from the story of Adam and Eve, please feel free to correct me, this is why I am here after all

You sound like a nice guy! I won't dare correct you. You can ask Adam what he thought about taking theological advice from a woman.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Hello Christians

All women are sinners, and the cause of Men's Fall. Why are they allowed in this forum? They should be at home, humbly and silently serving their Husbands.

Repent, woman.

Do not mouth off to your betters, boy.

That woman is a True Christian(tm), who is certified to be an obedient servant of God.

You are nobody. You do not tell anyone, even other Unsaved Trash, what to do here.

A True Christian(tm) woman is only second to a True Christian(tm) man. You are far, far down the list.

Get over yourself and learn your place.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Hello Christians

I assume that when you said unmarriable, you meant because she had had premaritial sex? Not just because she had been raped?

Yes, exactly. She may as well begin her career as a prostitute, poor thing!

[21stCenturyGuy]

Re: Hello Christians

Would'nt the original cause of the Sin be God, or the Devil?

Eve ate the forbidden fruit of knowledge, but was tempted into it by the snake, who was the Devil in disguise, but as God created everything and everyone, the Devil must have been at SOME point, created by God.

So really Women are just as much victims of sin as Men?

Like I said, I am by no means a expert in the meanings and workings of the bible, but this is just what I got from the story of Adam and Eve, please feel free to correct me, this is why I am here after all

[paulinho]

Re: Hello Christians

I could very well be wrong, like Mary said, if I am wrong, hopefully the good Rev's will set me straight, but according to the bible, are we not all BORN into sin? Not just the women?

We are all born into sin, but women are guilty of the Original Sin. They're not only born into it (as we, victims, are), they are the cause of it.

Please check Genesis before delivering unfounded facts.

[21stCenturyGuy]

Re: Hello Christians

All women are sinners, and the cause of Men's Fall. Why are they allowed in this forum? They should be at home, humbly and silently serving their Husbands.

Repent, woman.

I could very well be wrong, like Mary said, if I am wrong, hopefully the good Rev's will set me straight, but according to the bible, are we not all BORN into sin? Not just the women?

[21stCenturyGuy]

Re: Hello Christians

While I am in the introductions part of this; Might I enquire why in my title, it says "Toothless Drunken Scott"?

I must assume it refers to the Scottish, as I have already said, my name is Jas, not Scott, and I am not Scottish, as shown on my profile, I am English.
Also, I havent touched a drop of alcohol since I was 19, so with all due respect, what did I do to deserve such unprecedented branding? I came, honest about my intentions and open about my situation, offering to speak respectfully and with all due tact; am I not worthy of the same?

My sincerest apologies if I come across insulting, or whining, but as displayed to me in one of the Signitures here, Hypocrites are among those who will be left behind by God. I hope you understand where my confusion is coming from.

[paulinho]

Re: Hello Christians

Why even the examples you provide, trying to shock a humble and gentile True Christian™ woman as myself

All women are sinners, and the cause of Men's Fall. Why are they allowed in this forum? They should be at home, humbly and silently serving their Husbands.

Repent, woman.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Hello Christians

Are you speaking of those damned Catholics here?

Having been saved from the papist cult myself, I can say this was my first thought as well. It sent a shiver down my spine and I had to count all my children to make sure none of them had strayed or been led astray to the parish at the corner.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Hello Christians

Fair point, I would say that to an extent you are right,

If I say anything that is not Biblically accurate I'm sure one of the good pastors here would rebuke me accordingly. As it stands, my only thoughts are formed by the very Word of God and that is how I know right from wrong. So yes, I am right, but not to an extent. I am completely right for I speak with the prompting of the Holy Spirit.

I know that its not right to hit or harm another human, rape a small child, or steal money from someone who can barely afford food. But I would say that it is a persons actions, and heart that dictates whether they are truly a GOOD person, whether or not that gives them the chance, or deservedness to enter the Kingdom of Heaven; thats a argument that is not beneficial to either of us, but the point is, a good person would be welcomed by Jesus, and moulded to be Moral, in his work and care, but a bad person is unwelcomed, even by Christ. So being a good person is the first step.

Sir, with respect, you speak lies.

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (Romans 10:9)

No confession, no belief... no welcome.

What a person does is of no consequence, but who a person is before God makes all the difference. If a person is a True Christian™, they cannot help but to glorify God in all they do. If a person is not, they cannot help but to support the work of the Dark One, the father of lies who will greedily torment the souls of non believers for all of eternity. Why even the examples you provide, trying to shock a humble and gentile True Christian™ woman as myself, have been ordained by God Almighty Himself, thus proving He is good all the time, all the time He is Good.

[21stCenturyGuy]

Re: Hello Christians

Are you speaking of those damned Catholics here?

No, I was talking about basic right from wrong, it is wrong to harm another human, rape another human, or steal from another human, that is the obvious, most basic fundimentals of a civilised person.

[paulinho]

Re: Hello Christians

I know that its not right to hit or harm another human, rape a small child, or steal money from someone who can barely afford food.

Are you speaking of those damned Catholics here?

[21stCenturyGuy]

Re: Hello Christians

You won't need to get a lot of flame here, since you will have the Eternal Flames of Hell to worry about.

And don't call on hate, since you're the one who hates the Only True Word of G** Almighty.

I'll pray for your sinful soul.

I hold no hatred in my heart for any deity, nor any people for their followings. I look only at the good in peoples actions, and the kindness and good morals shown in the parables of lores.

If God decides that being a good person, but a person without him in their heart is worthy of eternal damnation; Well it would be my time to pay the piper as it were. But I like to think that any God who is Omnipresent, would see into a person, and know their heart to be true, regardless of outwardly shows of praise to him.

[21stCenturyGuy]

Re: Hello Christians

No. Morality refers to the principles of right and wrong and without Christ in your heart, you cannot know right from wrong.

Fair point, I would say that to an extent you are right, if say, a Devil was trying to seduce me away from God, if I knew nothing of God I might be powerless and without the knowledge of what was happening; but I do know some 'Earthly' rights from wrongs.

I am trying to think of a way to say this without causing undue backlash or insult to you and the forum at large, so please don't be offended by anything I say;

I know that its not right to hit or harm another human, rape a small child, or steal money from someone who can barely afford food. But I would say that it is a persons actions, and heart that dictates whether they are truly a GOOD person, whether or not that gives them the chance, or deservedness to enter the Kingdom of Heaven; thats a argument that is not beneficial to either of us, but the point is, a good person would be welcomed by Jesus, and moulded to be Moral, in his work and care, but a bad person is unwelcomed, even by Christ. So being a good person is the first step.

And Rev. Rodimer, I never thought of it like that, I suppose the idea of prison, while published to the masses as protecting them, also shows a more vengeful, violent side to us, there are few that would argue to protect the wellbeing of a criminal, let alone a criminal who is in jail, simply because we consider that this is what they deserve.

We may disagree on whether or not a human can be considered someones goods, but I see what you mean, revenge against the rapist would serve no-one, and only work to undermine our society back to the days of barbarians settling differences in fights to the death.

I assume that when you said unmarriable, you meant because she had had premaritial sex? Not just because she had been raped?