[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Mars

Yes.

I had.

You are trying to get the Bible to conform to some crazy plan you have in your head, but that's not the way it works.

(2 Timothy 2:16) "But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness."

I have never said this to anyone, but i feel your zany ideas might be more welcome at a Mormon website, or maybe the Scientologists will have you. Good luck.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Adam Fag]

Re: Mars

Wait: you think "fold" in this case means someone not of this earth?

Yes.

You better read all of John 10, friend, especially from John 10:23 onward.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

I had.

[Adam Fag]

Re: Mars

"This fold" = the Jews. Jesus came and spoke to the Jews.

Outside "this fold" = Gentiles. The apostles carried Christianity to the Gentiles, who were outside "the fold".

"Fool desperately trying to force facts to fit his bizarre beliefs" = Adam Ski.

No. The chance for the Jews was over. PAST TENSE.

John 10:24-27 "the Jews" stuff is PAST TENSE "I told you" John 10:25
but some of it is NOW "ye are not of my sheep" John 10:26

Here the Jews have missed the boat and we've moved on.

So we can see that John 10:16 means the worlds (folds) of the stars.

They give birth. All of them give birth. Not some of them. And as we just saw these are all "folds" - but how can folds give birth?

That's one thing I've come here to find out. What do you think?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Mars

Brother Zech's, I'm surprised that he doesn't think it's instructions on how to make a paper aeroplane.

YIC

Jack

Maybe he thinks Jesus was referring to the origami congregation.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Mars

it means he has sheep that are not of this fold (but does not name which folds there are, as well as the Earth)

Brother Zech's, I'm surprised that he doesn't think it's instructions on how to make a paper aeroplane.

YIC

Jack

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Mars

John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold

it means he has sheep that are not of this fold (but does not name which folds there are, as well as the Earth)

Wait: you think "fold" in this case means someone not of this earth?



You better read all of John 10, friend, especially from John 10:23 onward.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Onfire4theLord]

Re: Mars

Adam Ski the biggest favor you could do for yourself at this point would be to admit you're a sinner and receive the Lord Jesus Christ into your heart.

I realize that you think you can win this conversation. ( which I am sure you see as an argument) The only problem is, your logic is flawed there is no winning only the WORD OF GOD....we have the WORD OF GOD on our side. So while you pass snide comments and try your best to rile feathers we are all looking at a lost soul shaking our heads, knowing that you are going to burn in the eternal flames of hell.

Read the book son, REPENT, for God is not some sissy fairytale that is going to have mercy on your liberal views.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Mars

John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold

it means he has sheep that are not of this fold (but does not name which folds there are, as well as the Earth)

"This fold" = the Jews. Jesus came and spoke to the Jews.

Outside "this fold" = Gentiles. The apostles carried Christianity to the Gentiles, who were outside "the fold".

"Fool desperately trying to force facts to fit his bizarre beliefs" = Adam Ski.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Mars

Romans 8:22 For this to take place there MUST BE WORLDS LIKE OURS all through space. The space God made as you say. I'm not here to say you're wrong.

Why?

Why MUST?

What space?

The whole Creation is described in Genesis. Are you seriously suggesting that God made a Universe with a hundred billion billion stars in it each one with worlds just to have a place to put the Earth and us and lied to us about it?

Please don't tell me you're one of those woo woos who believes in space aliens without a shred of evidence!

[Adam Fag]

Re: Mars

5 And he put down the idolatrous priests, whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense in the high places in the cities of Judah, and in the places round about Jerusalem; them also that burned incense unto Baal, to the sun, and to the moon, and to the planets, and to jall the host of heaven.

We've already explained what a planet is to you.

You can't even read your own thread?

So you googled the word planet in the Bible as a gotcha!

Thanks. I put that quote there to jog your mind in case you had not seen Jack's post (but you had). I hope you don't think I want to say you're wrong. I don't. What's clear to me though is that there's more than just one thing to think.

All the stars give birth. Not some stars. They're formed from gas and dust. The gas forms the stars (and their gas giants) the dust forms dirt and rock and worlds like the Earth or Mars and so on. That's one type of "birth" but we aren't made of gas and rock. We're made from dirt. That's "birth Mk2" the birth of life and that birth takes place on worlds like our Earth.

Romans 8:22 For this to take place there MUST BE WORLDS LIKE OURS all through space. The space God made as you say. I'm not here to say you're wrong.

EARTH WIEWED FROM A GAS GIANT

[Onfire4theLord]

Re: Mars

So what's in that space now?

I see now that you're a bit slow and will take that into consideration from here on.

Brothers don't be too harsh on the heathen he is obviously retarded and as such will likely burn in hell no matter how hard we try to lead him to our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ.

The Devil seems to have an easier job with the really dumb ones. I assume this one is no exception.

[Adam Fag]

Re: Mars

an annular space between the Earth’s outer shell and the solid inner core. That space was maintained by supporting pillars between the shell and the core and was filled with hot salty water under pressure. At the time of the Flood the outer shell cracked down the center of what is today the Atlantic Ocean and the crack continued around the world at the ocean bottoms; there is abundant evidence for this. The Genesis Flood was initiated by this fracture opening to release the water jetting into space

I cannot recommend Dr.Brown’s rather massive tome nor his scholarship.

So what's in that space now?

[Onfire4theLord]

Re: Mars

Neil Armstrong worked for the Jews and concocted the whole "landing on the moon" thing to try and discredit the Bible. We know this for a FACT because we know the Bible is true!

The reason they did away with all that NASA garbage was because they knew they were beat!!!

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Revelation 21:7-9

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Mars

John 1:4 That's what we call light "the light of men" and it can be 2 things at the same time in your book. LIGHT and LIFE.

Romans 8:22 not some of (just the Earth) but all of (all the "folds") gives birth to life

What are you babbling on about?

You twist scripture like a corkscrew to interpret it to mean something it does not when staring you in the face is

1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

and you claim to have discernment?

[Adam Fag]

Re: Mars

Son, as soon as you start sucking up to these "scientists" you will soon find yourself coming to the conclusion that we don't really exist. They'll start telling you that we are made up of these teeny tiny "particles" (that no one can see) that can be in two places at the same time, and sometimes they are not "particles" but waves, and sometimes they are both, and that they have no rest masses, or sometimes they don't exist at all.

Get with Jesus son, at least He is Real and died for the sins you have already committed.

John 1:4 That's what we call light "the light of men" and it can be 2 things at the same time in your book. LIGHT and LIFE.

Romans 8:22 not some of (just the Earth) but all of (all the "folds") gives birth to life