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  • Faith_Machine
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    Re: Mars

    Actually, we do know exactly how life came to be on Earth. Read Genesis.

    You'll notice that Genesis contains a thorough, scientific explanation of how and why life came to be on Earth, but it mentions nothing about life on other planets. If such life exists, it's not our concern, because God would have mentioned it if it was important.

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  • Adam Fag
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    Originally posted by Faith_Machine View Post
    The whole alien hypothesis hinges on the fanciful notion that life evolved on another planet similar to our own, and then aliens traveled here.
    Well sort of. I doubt that science has found out all we need to know to say what life is or where it came from. But there it is. Is it just on our world?

    Originally posted by Faith_Machine View Post
    There you go again with your talk of pods. Can you point to even one space mission, from NASA, the USSR, the Chinese Space Agency, or anywhere else, that has employed "pods" as a means of landing?
    That was a good post there's at least one sane person on board. So not just 2 or 3 space jaunts to choose from. There's stacks of 'em, just as you said!

    By now we've sent probes to the edge of our home, the whole world of the Sun and its strong wind which may soon be used to "blow" us on our way to our next star. What will we find there?

    OK, fine. Let's pretend that's not absurd for just a minute.

    Explain to me, please, exactly how life that evolved on another planet, completely separated from ours, could possibly wind up producing a species of intelligent life that was "the same as us"?

    (If you tell me you don't believe in evolution, by the way, I will shout "GLORY" and reconsider my belief that you are beyond saving.)
    As I said, we don't know how life came to be on the Earth. We know it is here and from your point of view I feel that God, who has more life than we do, would speak life to all the stars he made not just our Sol.

    If you like genes then he would have the same genes sprout in the dust of all blown up type 2 stars which he then "used" to "make" the type 1 stars (such as Sol) and all their worlds (such as Earth).

    Did genes come first, in the dust Genesis 2:7 of old stars or did the Earth come first, then genes? I don't know which it was but it would be the same for "them" as for "us" and "we" may well be "they" in the hands of your God.
    To breed
    we'd need
    to be the same,
    that's for sure!
    Gen 6:4

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  • Adam Fag
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    Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
    Ezekiel 1:28As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.

    In your immense scripture twisting did you miss this nugget of wisdom?
    Well the fact that he said it looked like God does not mean it was God. But that's not the point. It's the bits where he says the things he saw were NOT GOD

    Ezekiel 1:14,16,19-20,22,24 He wants to tell us what he saw but seems not quite to have the words. He knows that and does the best he can. What he writes is plain but does use words like "like this" or "that" just as we would if we'd seen that, then. Now we do have the words. We might say "roared like a jet" or "it was a jet". I don't know. What do you think he meant? I know that where he has "the Lord" he means "God" but what of the rest? He goes out of his way to make clear that he doen NOT mean "God" as Paul did, now and then.

    I Corinthians 7:6,12,25



    Ezekiel 3:16-17
    16And it came to pass at the end of seven days, that the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 17Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.
    Ezekiel, a learned and great man was in no doubt as to what He was speaking of. Yet you know better, of course.
    I know less. I have not seen what he saw and doubt that I will but might, one day. He knew his "God" was not a beast, nor was "God" a man. I know that too. So do you. What we read, then, is clear. So on the bits that do not talk of "God's voice" or how he "shines" what do you have to say? What were those things? It is plain to see they're not God or else we'd read "and the Lord said" or "the voice of the Lord came to me" or some such and we do read that but not here. I know what the bits about "God" mean. What does the rest of it mean?

    That's why I post, to see what you all think.

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  • Faith_Machine
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    Originally posted by Adam Ski View Post
    No. My thought is, could they be the same as us?
    The whole alien hypothesis hinges on the fanciful notion that life evolved on another planet similar to our own, and then aliens traveled here.

    OK, fine. Let's pretend that's not absurd for just a minute.

    Explain to me, please, exactly how life that evolved on another planet, completely separated from ours, could possibly wind up producing a species of intelligent life that was "the same as us"?

    (If you tell me you don't believe in evolution, by the way, I will shout "GLORY" and reconsider my belief that you are beyond saving.)

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  • Redeemed Papist
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    Originally posted by Adam Ski View Post
    Hi Red
    Yes. He wrote down just what he saw. No more, no less and he was not mad. So what did he see?

    Or do you think he was mad?
    Ezekiel 1:28As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.

    In your immense scripture twisting did you miss this nugget of wisdom?
    Ezekiel 3:16-17
    16And it came to pass at the end of seven days, that the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 17Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.
    Ezekiel, a learned and great man was in no doubt as to what He was speaking of. Yet you know better, of course.

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  • Adam Fag
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    Originally posted by Red
    I love the way you patronisingly assume that a great man like Ezekiel was incapable of recording exactly what he saw.
    Hi Red
    Yes. He wrote down just what he saw. No more, no less and he was not mad. So what did he see?

    Or do you think he was mad?

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  • Redeemed Papist
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    Originally posted by Adam Ski View Post
    What do you think?
    Please do not invite women to think.
    1 Corinthians 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

    What does her husband think?

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  • Adam Fag
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    Originally posted by Lady Effect View Post
    Amen, Brother!
    Another proof that we shouldn't be open-minded, only when the open Bible is in our hands, otherwise Satan jumps in our heart and turns it into some kind of jelly!

    This thread is freaky stuff! Nice photos, btw., have you guys ever heard of Photoshop? So, posting here "proving photos" is unnecessary.

    1 Corinthians 12:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues.
    Thanks for your post I just take words as they are, my heart does not jump and I am sure those men of old were sound.

    So what did they see? Yes, I post my thoughts. Could it be so? And I'll learn here too. That's good.

    What do you think?

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  • Redeemed Papist
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    I love the way you patronisingly assume that a great man like Ezekiel was incapable of recording exactly what he saw.

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  • Adam Fag
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    Originally posted by Faith_Machine View Post
    OK. So you're saying that thousands of years ago, Ezekiel encountered a flying machine created by a completely non-human intelligence
    No. My thought is, could they be the same as us?

    just happened to engage in the very human practice of adorning their space ships with WWII style airplane nose art.
    Yes, or badge such as Air Force 1 (note badge at front) Air Force 1 (note badge at front) Air Force 1 (nose, check it out)

    That's quite a coincidence, don't you think?
    No.

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  • Lady Effect
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    Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
    *shakes head*

    Some people are so desperate to believe things they will twist reality itself to make it gel with their internal picture of the world.

    Thank the Lord for the Bible.
    Amen, Brother!
    Another proof that we shouldn't be open-minded, only when the open Bible is in our hands, otherwise Satan jumps in our heart and turns it into some kind of jelly!

    This thread is freaky stuff! Nice photos, btw., have you guys ever heard of Photoshop? So, posting here "proving photos" is unnecessary.

    1 Corinthians 12:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues.

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  • Redeemed Papist
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    *shakes head*

    Some people are so desperate to believe things they will twist reality itself to make it gel with their internal picture of the world.

    Thank the Lord for the Bible.

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  • Faith_Machine
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    Originally posted by Adam Ski View Post
    No but that's what it would look like.
    Really? A flying machine with four faces would look exactly like a photo of some "astronauts" riding inside the vomit comet in order to convince you they were floating in space?

    That's an odd assertion, my friend.

    Have you heard of "nose art"?

    more more more

    these may be film stars or beasts (sharks' mouths are well known), some badge or seal such as this one

    OK. So you're saying that thousands of years ago, Ezekiel encountered a flying machine created by a completely non-human intelligence, and those utterly alien creatures just happened to engage in the very human practice of adorning their space ships with WWII style airplane nose art.

    That's quite a coincidence, don't you think?

    Oh, wait, I get it: We got the idea for nose art from our alien progenitors!

    Brilliant, carry on.

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  • Adam Fag
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    Originally posted by Billy Bob Jenkins View Post
    If space is such a bountiful resource as you atheists insist, what are you afraid of wasting it for?
    I read that in the "noobs" bit

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  • Adam Fag
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    Originally posted by Faith_Machine View Post
    Now you're just playing games. A flying thing with four people inside it (who obviously have faces, what with them being people and all) is not the same thing as a four-faced flying thing with wings.
    No but that's what it would look like.

    Have you heard of "nose art"?

    more more more

    these may be film stars or beasts (sharks' mouths are well known), some badge or seal such as this one

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