[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Explain me why you accept a God who kills millions of innocent people, is a racist, intolerant towards people with a different perspective,

Gandhi?!

doesn't punish the real evil people like breivik

Why do you think Breivik is "really evil", and why do you think that, if God finds him to be evil, he won't be punished?

Do you know what "evil" is? Evil is disobeying God. That's it. "Good" is obeying God. In spite of what your modern, secular humanist "morals" might tell you.

and doesn't really show he's really out there.

What, you've never noticed the universe? Look at the stars some clear night and tell me God's not out there. Where else would they come from?

Why is your God so violent and unmerciful? I know a lot of friendly christians, and they tell me God is merciful and accepts everyone no matter the colour of their skin or gender.

Because those false Christian friends of yours are telling you half-truths.

God is merciful, to those toward whom He wishes to show mercy.

God is pitiless to those who refuse to obey Him. Like you.

So, why are you here, atheist?

[Redeemed Papist]

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Explain me why you accept a God who kills millions of innocent people, is a racist, intolerant towards people with a different perspective, doesn't punish the real evil people like breivik and doesn't really show he's really out there. Why is your God so violent and unmerciful? I know a lot of friendly christians, and they tell me God is merciful and accepts everyone no matter the colour of their skin or gender.

Are you saying there's another God we could choose?

[Jack O'fagan]

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Explain me why you accept a God who kills millions of innocent people, is a racist, intolerant towards people with a different perspective, doesn't punish the real evil people like breivik and doesn't really show he's really out there. Why is your God so violent and unmerciful? I know a lot of friendly christians, and they tell me God is merciful and accepts everyone no matter the colour of their skin or gender.

You know friendly christians who know nothing of God's word. They won't have read the Bible and have just blindly accepted the lies from some guy in a dress. They are false Christians, we follow His word and are True Christians.

1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

YIC

Jack

[redhaven]

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Explain me why you accept a God who kills millions of innocent people, is a racist, intolerant towards people with a different perspective, doesn't punish the real evil people like breivik and doesn't really show he's really out there. Why is your God so violent and unmerciful? I know a lot of friendly christians, and they tell me God is merciful and accepts everyone no matter the colour of their skin or gender.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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No, as I said multiple times, I don't consider the Bible as evidence. There's nothing proving that the Bible is true.

So you're an atheist, then. So why are you here?

I don't know much about Gandhi other than he felt he had to wash his hands after shaking hands with any Muslim. And hated Negroes. And was queer.

He is known as a kindly father figure in India, but Mahatma Gandhi was also a racist bisexual who left his wife for a male Jewish bodybuilder, according to reports of a controversial new biography.

In Great Soul: Mahatma Gandhi And His Struggle With India, former New York Times executive editor Joseph Lelyveld paints a different picture of the Indian independence leader and activist. As the Wall Street Journal is reporting, the book "obligingly gives readers more than enough information to discern that [Gandhi] was a sexual weirdo, a political incompetent and a fanatical faddist -- one who was often downright cruel to those around him."

And Mother Teresa? There's a whole movement devoted to her. She was a depraved monster who thought suffering brought people closer to God, so she collected millions for "houses of healing" where people were laid out to slowly die without medicine or painkillers, on mats on the floor of crowded rooms. But don't believe me, ask that dead atheist you all like so much:

MT was not a friend of the poor. She was a friend of poverty. She said that suffering was a gift from God. She spent her life opposing the only known cure for poverty, which is the empowerment of women and the emancipation of them from a livestock version of compulsory reproduction. And she was a friend to the worst of the rich, taking misappropriated money from the atrocious Duvalier family in Haiti (whose rule she praised in return) and from Charles Keating of the Lincoln Savings and Loan. Where did that money, and all the other donations, go? The primitive hospice in Calcutta was as run down when she died as it always had been—she preferred California clinics when she got sick herself—and her order always refused to publish any audit. But we have her own claim that she opened 500 convents in more than a hundred countries, all bearing the name of her own order. Excuse me, but this is modesty and humility?

The rich world has a poor conscience, and many people liked to alleviate their own unease by sending money to a woman who seemed like an activist for "the poorest of the poor." People do not like to admit that they have been gulled or conned, so a vested interest in the myth was permitted to arise, and a lazy media never bothered to ask any follow-up questions. Many volunteers who went to Calcutta came back abruptly disillusioned by the stern ideology and poverty-loving practice of the "Missionaries of Charity," but they had no audience for their story. George Orwell's admonition in his essay on Gandhi—that saints should always be presumed guilty until proved innocent—was drowned in a Niagara of soft-hearted, soft-headed, and uninquiring propaganda.

One of the curses of India, as of other poor countries, is the quack medicine man, who fleeces the sufferer by promises of miraculous healing. Sunday was a great day for these parasites, who saw their crummy methods endorsed by his holiness and given a more or less free ride in the international press. Forgotten were the elementary rules of logic, that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and that what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. More than that, we witnessed the elevation and consecration of extreme dogmatism, blinkered faith, and the cult of a mediocre human personality. Many more people are poor and sick because of the life of MT: Even more will be poor and sick if her example is followed. She was a fanatic, a fundamentalist, and a fraud, and a church that officially protects those who violate the innocent has given us another clear sign of where it truly stands on moral and ethical questions.

I don't know much about Mandela, but if you're praising him along with these two monsters, he can't be much of a man.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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People like Mohandas Gandhi, Mother Theresa and Nelson Mandela were all very good people. I think those people deserve a lot more than most of us do, for example Mandela. I've seen the movie Invictus which is about him, and there was one quote that really touched me and which was the following: I was thinking about how you spend 30 years in a tiny cell, and come out ready to forgive the people who put you there. - Francois Pienaar about Nelson Mandela. In my opinion those people really do have the heart of a God, they help and forgive people no matter how bad they get treated.

Gandhi is a dead demon worshiper who used to beat his wife with a stick.

Mother Theresa is a dead hunchbacked Albainan whore who used to beat her novices with a stick, and was often arrested by the Calcutta police for getting into street brawls.


Mandela is an avowed communist and a convicted terrorist.

None of them are Saved(c). Not one of them has accepted Jesus. Two out of the three of them are in hell right now being tortured by demons. The third is going to board the train to hell any day now, when Jesus kills him and sends him down to nigra hell, where I presume there is no watermelon, fried chicken of White women to rape.

Being nice won't get you into Heaven, pal. Read my sermon on the subject HERE.

[Roberta]

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Why isn't God more like Gandhi?

You think God would want to be a pifflin' dot?

[redhaven]

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I've received a private message from Redeemed Papist, saying that calling pastors and priests ''father'' is only done by catholics. I'm really sorry about that. I wasn't aware of that.

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If God would really exist then He would be a real meanie, because I can tell from what I know from the Bible. It happened quite often that when God punished the bad people, he'd also punish a lot of good (who had nothing to do with) people. If God really is merciful, then why does He want people not believing in Him to burn for all eternity?

The Bible claims that God had flooded the entire earth, just because some people were bad, therefore all the other people who didn't do anything wrong, had to die too. Only Moses and some animals survived.

When the Jews we're being suppressed by the Egyptians, God punished the Egyptians with the 10 plagues, which would also hit innocent (Egyptian) people.

You're claiming that it doesn't matter if you're either Hitler or Nelson Mandela, you'll go to hell, just because you don't believe in God.
Why isn't God more like Gandhi? Why is it so important for God to believe in Him?

How many of you true christians are believing in God, just to save themselves, so they can go to heaven?

You know, if a human would flood the entire planet, then we would call that person a mass murderer. God is exactly that, intolerant against dissenters, kills/punishes good people without any reason and doesn't punish the real evil people like Breivik. If I'd need to believe in such a God, only so I can go to heaven, well, then I'd rather go to hell and burn for my own righteous concious.

[Catherine Moore]

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Well, I'm actually from the UK and a female, so I wouldn't understand politics and all that stuff at all.

From what I gather though 2 Thessalonians 3:10 is the answer. Why should decent hard working Americans be forced to pay for scrounging nigras just because the latter have been too lazy to buy medical insurance. What business is it of the goverment how Americans spend their money (so long as taxes are paid). Why should a minority (rich, white, Christians) have to pay to support everyone else - imagine if blacks were being forced to pay to support whites! There would be uproar.

I stress though that I'm just repeating parrot fashion the opinions of those smarter than me here, I'm not really able to engage in a debate. Not that thats a bad thing - this isn't a debate forum. Its for praising God.

[redhaven]

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I also wonder, why are all true christians here republicans? What's wrong with democrats? What do you think of obamacare, and why is it wrong in your eyes?

[Catherine Moore]

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Well, the Bible (the King James Version of 1611 minus the deuterocanonical books, at lest) is the Word of God. God proves that its true, He says so right there in the Bible.

But what you're not understanding is that without the Bible we would know nothing about God. To put it in terms you might understand, you've essentially said "prove to me Darwinian Evolution is true without mentioning anything from Darwin's work". It's a nonsensical thing. Not impossible, simply a random collection of words that just so happen to be a grammatical sentence. Fearless green ideas and suchlike.

[redhaven]

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Redhaven dear thats a bit of a silly question.

There's nothing about God, Hell, anything like that ANYWHERE but the Bible. Sure, there are threads on here, books out in bookshops that mention it but they are all secondary sources, without the Bible none of those would exist.

So asking for "solid evidence" of soemthing relating to God without referencing the Bible is just, well, stupid.

It's like saying "Give me solid evidence your name is Catherine Moore without referencing your birth certificate" (not sure if this analogy applies outside the UK.

I can't. Every other form of ID I have has just "copied" the name from my birth certificate. Equally every fact we know about God is known from the Bible so cutting that out of the conversation means there is no conversation.

Do you understand?

No, as I said multiple times, I don't consider the Bible as evidence. There's nothing proving that the Bible is true.

[Catherine Moore]

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Redhaven dear thats a bit of a silly question.

There's nothing about God, Hell, anything like that ANYWHERE but the Bible. Sure, there are threads on here, books out in bookshops that mention it but they are all secondary sources, without the Bible none of those would exist.

So asking for "solid evidence" of soemthing relating to God without referencing the Bible is just, well, stupid.

It's like saying "Give me solid evidence your name is Catherine Moore without referencing your birth certificate" (not sure if this analogy applies outside the UK.

I can't. Every other form of ID I have has just "copied" the name from my birth certificate. Equally every fact we know about God is known from the Bible so cutting that out of the conversation means there is no conversation.

Do you understand?

[redhaven]

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Jack O'fagan, I see that you have a scientist icon. What do you consider a scientist? Can you prove me with solid evidence (without mentioning the Bible) that people who don't believe in God, do go to hell no matter how helpful they've been to humanity?

[Levi Jones]

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Father, are you saying that even if a person saves dozens of lives, even of baptists, they'd still go to hell just like Adolf Hitler, Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden? Do you believe that hell is the only place after death were you will go no matter your ethnicity and religion?

If that person didn't believe that Jesus is the son of God, then yes they would go to hell.

Please see John 3:16-18

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.