[Christianzionist]

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Please explain the Flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, the genocide of the Midianites, the genocide of the Amalekites, the (Catholic) Crusades, and the (Catholic) Inquisition.

Thank you.

Clearly, God stands for the death and destruction of unbelievers such as the OP, who is a member of a cult which has persecuted the True Christians for over 2,000 years now.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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"GOD CLEARLY WANTS US TO REMOVE NON BELIEVERS, EVEN IF BY GENOCIDE? "ARE YOU LISTENING TO WHAT YOU SAY? HOLY SHIT YOU ARE TRULY FRIGHTENING. GOD NEVER STANDS FOR DEATH AND DESTRUCTION.

Please explain the Flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, the genocide of the Midianites, the genocide of the Amalekites, the (Catholic) Crusades, and the (Catholic) Inquisition.

Thank you.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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ARE YOU LISTENING TO WHAT YOU SAY?

As a catholic, do you realize you represent such foolishness as paying off sin, and magical bones? Do you even know your faith?

IT SCARES ME THERE ARE ACTUALLY 41 MILLION OF YOU DUMBASSES IN THE WORLD.

And yet the pope claims a billion dumbasses follow him. You do realize the so-called "dogma" of Mary's "immaculate conception" was determined by popular vote? Not from theology, certainly not from the Holy Bible. A billion people were polled and they all thought, "sure, sounds good," and bam, there it was. A brand-spanking new "truth" that has nothing to do whatsoever with the True God of the Bible. And you call us crazy?

[Jack O'fagan]

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I'm shocked and appalled, partially because I can't figure out if you're a Mormon or a Catholic or what.

I think Jesus just thinks of them all as kindling,

YIC

Jack

[Nobar King]

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I'm shocked and appalled, partially because I can't figure out if you're a Mormon or a Catholic or what.

[Redeemed Papist]

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GOD NEVER STANDS FOR DEATH AND DESTRUCTION. YOU ARE ALL BLIND. TRULY BLIND.

Revelation 19:11-16
11And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

17And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

19And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

[Redeemed Papist]

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If you truly think that genesis was the actual description of how the earth was made, not an interpretation of what someone was shown who doesnt know what science is, you are piffleing stupid, and blind.

So how do you know about Jesus?

How do you explain that Jesus didn't tell anyone that Genesis was wrong?

[ExGay Alex]

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Yes, and then there is the irony of "I know you're all wrong; you should be loving your neighbor" and all the while this gentle, don't-hate-anybody "Christian" is screaming obscenities at US.

[Jack O'fagan]

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Ahem:

It's always the same isn't it Pastor Peters? They come here and have a girly hissy fit and when we ask them to point out where we are using scripture wrongly they just can't do it.

YIC

Jack

[Christianzionist]

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"GOD CLEARLY WANTS US TO REMOVE NON BELIEVERS, EVEN IF BY GENOCIDE? "ARE YOU LISTENING TO WHAT YOU SAY? HOLY SHIT YOU ARE TRULY FRIGHTENING. GOD NEVER STANDS FOR DEATH AND DESTRUCTION. YOU ARE ALL BLIND. TRULY BLIND. REMOVE THINE SCALES FROM THY EYES O' LORD. I LIKE HOW A CHURCH THAT WAS CREATED IN 1600'S KNOWS THE TRUTH.... MAKES SENSE. WE WERE ALREADY LIVING IN AMERICA AND YOUR RELIGION WASNT CREATED YET... JUST WOW. BTW IT WAS FOUNDED IN AMSTERDAM IN 1609. IT WASNT FOUNDED IN AMERICA UNTIL 1638. YOUR ENTIRE DOCTRINE IN THE 18TH CENTRUY WAS TO OPPOSE THE ABOLITION OF SLAVERY.... YOU ARE A JOKE. IT SCARES ME THERE ARE ACTUALLY 41 MILLION OF YOU DUMBASSES IN THE WORLD.

So now slavery is bad?

Where is your bible, open it and show me where the children of Ham are not supposed to be enslaved....

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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HOLY SHIT FOR BEING BIBLE BEATERS YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT WAS WRITTEN.

Ahem:

Dear friend:

Please provide direct quotations, in context, of those parts of the King James Bible that you think we are disobeying. Thank you, and have a blessed day.

[mormonsinthesouth]

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"GOD CLEARLY WANTS US TO REMOVE NON BELIEVERS, EVEN IF BY GENOCIDE? "ARE YOU LISTENING TO WHAT YOU SAY? HOLY SHIT YOU ARE TRULY FRIGHTENING. GOD NEVER STANDS FOR DEATH AND DESTRUCTION. YOU ARE ALL BLIND. TRULY BLIND. REMOVE THINE SCALES FROM THY EYES O' LORD. I LIKE HOW A CHURCH THAT WAS CREATED IN 1600'S KNOWS THE TRUTH.... MAKES SENSE. WE WERE ALREADY LIVING IN AMERICA AND YOUR RELIGION WASNT CREATED YET... JUST WOW. BTW IT WAS FOUNDED IN AMSTERDAM IN 1609. IT WASNT FOUNDED IN AMERICA UNTIL 1638. YOUR ENTIRE DOCTRINE IN THE 18TH CENTRUY WAS TO OPPOSE THE ABOLITION OF SLAVERY.... YOU ARE A JOKE. IT SCARES ME THERE ARE ACTUALLY 41 MILLION OF YOU DUMBASSES IN THE WORLD.

[Christianzionist]

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I AM NOT CHRISTIAN YOU piffleING STUPID IDIOTS.

I think that much is obvious, son. You are obviously a minion of Satan.

What I want to know is, why are you so bitter?

Don't you know that when Jesus touches you, His soothing warm hands make all that tension and jitters go away?

Its a massage for the soul.

Don't you want that? Don't you want salvation? Why are you so blinded by pride?

[mormonsinthesouth]

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The fact that you condemn people to hell, because I am Catholic makes you not Christian lol.... i forgot i was talking to complete idiots i apologize. and people called me black referring to watermelons? I am white lol.... If you people actually believe youll make it to Heaven and you think God will praise you for acting like ignorant morons, you are very stupid enjoy your blind lives you idiots. The stupidity on this forum is beyond belief. Holy shit go back to the 1800's, youd love it there. Bible beating morons. If you truly think that genesis was the actual description of how the earth was made, not an interpretation of what someone was shown who doesnt know what science is, you are fucking stupid, and blind. Just the simple fact that some of you said "He wont be bothering us in Heaven" after i stated im a confirmed catholic, MAKES YOU NOT CHRISTIAN YOU FUCKING STUPID IDIOTS. HOLY SHIT FOR BEING BIBLE BEATERS YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT WAS WRITTEN. GO CONTINUE TO LIVE BLINDLY IN YOUR BIGOTED WORLD. IM SURE YOU KNOW HELL IS VERY REAL, AND WHEN YOU COME TO BE JUDGED, I PRAY YOU ARE NOT SENT THERE FOR YOU IDIOTIC, RACIST, BLIND VIEWS ON EARTH. IT MAKES ME LAUGH THAT YOU THINK WHEN YOU GET TO HEAVEN AND GOD GOES OVER YOUR LIFE IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU ACTUALLY THINK HE WILL PRAISE YOU FOR RACISM AND HATRED. YOU ARE FUCKING STUPID.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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As a fellow Christian (confirmed catholic)

Therefore, not a Christian because you disobey God's Commands in favor of the traditions of men (like celibate priests, infant baptism, and praying to idols and dead people like Mary and the "saints").

Why would you have Mormons in your mouth, anyway? That's disgusting.

I am absolutely appalled by the un-Christian like ethics I have seen strewn all over your website.

We do get many Catholics, Wiccans, atheists, and other mockers of God here. It is because we are Christian that we do not expel them immediately, but instead hope to introduce them to God's Word.

First of all, condeming other religions because they are not Christian is not God's work.

Really?

I just read this little article this morning.

The so-called “Good News Club” is a ministry of Child Evangelism Fellowship. They aren’t shy about their position of promoting evangelical Christianity.

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These “clubs” meet in public schools all over the country–possibly even yours.

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What does the Good News Club teach? One of the stories is that of Saul and the Amalekites, and it comes early–the second week of the curriculum.

It’s not a pretty story, and it is often used by people who don’t intend to do pretty things. In the book of 1 Samuel (15:3), God said to Saul:


"Now go, attack the Amalekites, and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys."


Saul dutifully exterminated the women, the children, the babies and all of the men – but then he spared the king. He also saved some of the tastier looking calves and lambs. God was furious with him for his failure to finish the job.


The story of the Amalekites has been used to justify genocide throughout the ages. According to Pennsylvania State University Professor Philip Jenkins, a contributing editor for the American Conservative, the Puritans used this passage when they wanted to get rid of the Native American tribes. Catholics used it against Protestants, Protestants against Catholics. "In Rwanda in 1994, Hutu preachers invoked King Saul’s memory to justify the total slaughter of their Tutsi neighbors," writes Jenkins in his 2011 book, Laying Down the Sword: Why We Can’t Ignore the Bible’s Violent Verses.


This fall, more than 100,000 American public school children, ranging in age from four to 12, are scheduled to receive instruction in the lessons of Saul and the Amalekites in the comfort of their own public school classrooms. The instruction, which features in the second week of a weekly "Bible study" course, will come from the Good News Club, an after-school program sponsored by a group called the Child Evangelism Fellowship (CEF). The aim of the CEF is to convert young children to a fundamentalist form of the Christian faith and recruit their peers to the club.

‘Come now,’ you say, ‘They’re just teaching a Bible story. Nothing wrong with that. It’s not like they’re teaching Numbers 31, the slaughter of the Midianites for the same reason, where God told Moses to let the men “keep as wives” (that is, rape) all the virgin girls. This is a horrible story, sure, but they’re not teaching children that God wants all nonbelievers slaughtered!’


Sure about that, are you?

In the most recent version of the curriculum, however, the group is quite eager to drive the message home to its elementary school students. The first thing the curriculum makes clear is that if God gives instructions to kill a group of people, you must kill every last one:

You are to go and completely destroy the Amalekites (AM-uh-leck-ites) – people, animals, every living thing. Nothing shall be left.

“That was pretty clear, wasn’t it?” the manual tells the teachers to say to the kids.


Even more important, the Good News Club wants the children to know, the Amalakites were targeted for destruction on account of their religion, or lack of it. The instruction manual reads:

The Amalekites had heard about Israel’s true and living God many years before, but they refused to believe in him. The Amalekites refused to believe in God and God had promised punishment.

What lesson is this teaching children? Two things, actually.


First, complete and unquestioning obedience to authority is a virtue. Specifically, obedience to their god who, of course, can only be “heard” through religious leaders who, naturally, would only say things their god told them . . . so they must be obeyed.


Second, that anyone who doesn’t believe in their god is worthy of death, and that’s what their god wants. Lots of killing.

The author, a so-called "atheist" who hates God, then goes on to compare Christianity with Islamic Jihad, and whine about a variety of Christian leaders calling for the extermination or criminalization of homosexuals, as though it has anything whatsoever to do with God's command to exterminate nonbelievers.


The Good News Clubs are in thousands of public schools, teaching the exact opposite of what you just said. God clearly wants us to eliminate nonbelievers, by genocide if needed.


Why do you deny God's Word?