[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: A Candle in the Darkness

Sorry but no, as genesis says women are to be help meets not property or slaves or servent.

"Helps meet", dear. "Help", or "assistant/servant", and "meet", or "suitable/appropriate".

And that should really tell you who is subservient to whom.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: A Candle in the Darkness

Actually there is a chapter on how God hates men do not treat their wifes well and how "she thy companion": Malachi 2
There is also Genesis 15 which speaks of how through a woman's seed that prophecy of Mary and how her son would destroy the work of the serpent or as said 'crush his head'.

Are you suggesting the Bible verses I provided don't count? That they are less important than the one you suggest? Dear, I suggest you read the Bible as a whole, rather than in the way you want it to read.

This is also a prophecy of the freedom of a woman, the first blessing that women are given from God without going through men first. That this curse came through a woman and that the blessing came through on as well.

Please provide the chapter and verse in which I can read where women are free from their divine role as subservient help meets. Thanks in advance.

[StarDreamerNight]

Re: A Candle in the Darkness

Oh dear, who taught you such things? The Bible clearly teaches that the woman, even among animals, is the property of the male, and property is under the control of the owner.

Sorry but no, as genesis says women are to be help meets not property or slaves or servent. Jesus did not treat women as such, in truth he showed women great respect and it was actually to women and more particularly the very first person to see him in his resurrected from was Mary Magdalene... a true honor would you not agree?
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I'm sorry but I have already proven I am a servant of the one true God, know from the KJV of the Holy Bible. At most you could say I was not 'raised' properly because I did not have a father and my brother is a prodigal.

[Rev. Edward Clement]

Re: A Candle in the Darkness

She seems to be implying she an uppity female...

Yes, it does appear that way. She apparently makes demands, and gives orders to the liberal-false-God that she prays to. We know that it sure ain't Jesus that she prays to.

[Rev. Edward Clement]

Re: A Candle in the Darkness

A man is not my husband until we are married, as such a man can make no such demands until he is married. And yes I know and agree the husband is the head of the hosue but just because he is does not mean the wife has do obey everything he says. I would be unto my husband, give him as he requires as long as he is of the sort I will marry.

Oh dear, who taught you such things? The Bible clearly teaches that the woman, even among animals, is the property of the male, and property is under the control of the owner.

It cannot be different than that my young friend.

Genesis
7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.

Deuteronomy

5:21 Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbour's wife, neither shalt thou covet thy neighbour's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or any thing that is thy neighbour's.

[Brother Jared]

Re: A Candle in the Darkness

You seem to be implying that the Bible is internally contradictory...

She seems to be implying she an uppity female...

[StarDreamerNight]

Re: A Candle in the Darkness

You seem to be implying that the Bible is internally contradictory...

I am implying nothing of the sort, I was just showing scriptures from the Holy Bible that say a that a women is more then what ahs been said. Who says it is contradictory, I don't? The Holy Bible is 100% true and as such you must take all the scriptures as a whole and as such as a whole one cannot say God believes women meant to be slaves.

The sort of man I am looking for can be shown in a song, and I will do the same as they do to me. The song is Martina Mcbride - For The Love Of A Woman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti0JzA5cWvs

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: A Candle in the Darkness

Actually there is a chapter on how God hates men do not treat their wifes well and how "she thy companion": Malachi 2
There is also Genesis 15 which speaks of how through a woman's seed that prophecy of Mary and how her son would destroy the work of the serpent or as said 'crush his head'. This is also a prophecy of the freedom of a woman, the first blessing that women are given from God without going through men first. That this curse came through a woman and that the blessing came through on as well.

You seem to be implying that the Bible is internally contradictory...

[StarDreamerNight]

Re: A Candle in the Darkness

Young lady, according to the Bible, you are to be subject to their husbands in everything. You are not allowed to make such demands.

Ephesians
5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

Also, my young friend, as a True Christian™ I cannot make demands of Jesus as you are making demands of the "requirements" of a husband. The husband, or another male figure, will tell you what is best for you as Jesus tells us what is best for us.

5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

A man is not my husband until we are married, as such a man can make no such demands until he is married. And yes I know and agree the husband is the head of the hosue but just because he is does not mean the wife has do obey everything he says. I would be unto my husband, give him as he requires as long as he is of the sort I will marry.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: A Candle in the Darkness

Actually there is a chapter on how God hates men do not treat their wifes well and how "she thy companion": Malachi 2

Yes, and one of the best things a man can do for his wife is ensure she obeys, as the Bible commands, so that her salvation is ensured. Correct?

There is also Genesis 15 which speaks of how through a woman's seed that prophecy of Mary and how her son would destroy the work of the serpent or as said 'crush his head'.

I think you're interpreting again, dear. There is no "work of the serpent"; it was just a snake*, and God was telling them that humans and snakes would be enemies, so humans would kill snakes.

*The serpent was more of a proto-snake, given that it could talk and apparently had legs until God took them away.

[StarDreamerNight]

Re: A Candle in the Darkness

Why do you assume a True Christian™, such as the good Dr. Niles, would fail to comply to his God-given responsibility to treat his wife as the "weaker vessle" (1 Peter 3:7) God created her to be? (Genesis 3:16) Furthermore, would you actually be capable of complying to your God-given responsibility as a wife, to be submissive to her husband in all things? (Ephesians 5:22-24) It seems to me quite presumptuous of you to deny Dr. Niles before he's even considered the possibility of doing you the favor of making an honest woman out of you. (1st Timothy 2:15)

Actually there is a chapter on how God hates men do not treat their wifes well and how "she thy companion": Malachi 2
There is also Genesis 15 which speaks of how through a woman's seed that prophecy of Mary and how her son would destroy the work of the serpent or as said 'crush his head'. This is also a prophecy of the freedom of a woman, the first blessing that women are given from God without going through men first. That this curse came through a woman and that the blessing came through on as well.

[Rev. Edward Clement]

Re: A Candle in the Darkness

The man I am looking for would need to treat me not as a servent but as his partner, and support my wish to be a writer.

Young lady, according to the Bible, women are to be subject to their husbands in everything. You are not allowed to make such demands.

Ephesians
5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

Also, my young friend, as a True Christian™ I cannot make demands of Jesus as you are making demands of the "requirements" of a husband. The husband, or another male figure, will tell you what is best for you as Jesus tells us what is best for us.

5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

[Brother Jared]

Re: A Candle in the Darkness

Such a childish response. No wonder nobody wants to marry her. What a chore it would be to discipline her into decency.

No wonder! She never had a male figure in her life to slap some sense into her when she has her hizzy fits

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: A Candle in the Darkness

The serpent lied by twisting the truth, as twisting the truth is a form of lying. He said that Eve would not die for eating the fruit, which is both a lie and a truth. It is a lie because Eve and her husband would die... just not on the spot which is what he was suggesting God meant.

Isn't it exactly what God said?

Genesis 2:17

17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: A Candle in the Darkness

Don't be too hard on her. Last time someone used the Truth™ against her, she ran away for several days....

Such a childish response. No wonder nobody wants to marry her. What a chore it would be to discipline her into decency.