[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Please Help Me Be Saved...

Confirmation is really mostly like sunday school. We never do very much.

Also, sorry, but you're wrong. The Bible didn't say your neighbors were fellow "true Christians".

That's true, Charlotte. However, if you look at how "neighbor" is used in the Bible, it means "your people". The people like us. That is, those who follow Jesus.

It in no case is used to mean "everybody".

When Jesus tells us to "love one another", please look at the context. He is speaking to His followers, and telling them to love one another. We are His followers, so we are directed to love His other followers.

If He'd meant "love everybody", would He not have said so?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Please Help Me Be Saved...

Now Charlotte, for a 14 year old, you display common teen angst which compunds your lifes problems. That, saddled with a poor education (not that I expect much more from you as you are just a female) makes explaining things difficult.
Firs, you are a catlick, not a Christian. You pray to mary, we pray to God. We are going to Heaven, you are not. Pretty good reasons for you to upset. But you can change.

Consider what God has asked of a True Christian™:
Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

Proverbs 31:9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1st Corinthians 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
1st Corinthians 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

Consider what Jesus has to say about 'mary worship' and mary in general:
Luke 4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Luke 11:27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.
Luke 11:28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.
(Jesus thinks Mary is unimportant compared to the Gospel)

Look what the Bible has to say about True Christians™:
Psalm 119:1 ALEPH. Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.
Psalm 119:2 Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
Psalm 119:3 They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.

1st John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Romans 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Romans 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

If you doubt me, think about the following:
Isaiah 29:14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

John 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
John 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.

John 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
John 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

1st Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1st Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1st Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1st Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1st Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1st Corinthians 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1st Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
1st Corinthians 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
1st Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1st Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1st Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1st Corinthians 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1st Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1st Corinthians 3:20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

Jude 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Jude 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
Jude 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

[Faith_Machine]

Re: Please Help Me Be Saved...

I do apologize, you seem to be the only sensible person here right now.

Friend, I learned almost everything I know about Jesus from Pastor Ezekiel. Your words have really put him in a blue funk, and I think it would be nice if you apologized to him. He's very sensitive.

[Charlotte Sometimes]

Re: Please Help Me Be Saved...

I will be more than happy to lend you a hand:

Do you have a copy of the 1611 King James Bible? If not, get one and start reading it!

I do apologize, you seem to be the only sensible person here right now.

[Charlotte Sometimes]

Re: Please Help Me Be Saved...

Confirmation is really mostly like sunday school. We never do very much.

Also, sorry, but you're wrong. The Bible didn't say your neighbors were fellow "true Christians". There's yet another made-up piece of garbage you false priests puked up. You seemed to have missed the part when Jesus said "Go and do likewise." My confusion now rests almost purely on whether half the people running this forum are complete and utter retards or it's a very elaborate prank. I'm reading through my Bible and realizing that you're full of crap. You're all gonna go to hell if you don't turn away from all this self-righteous bullsh!t. I'm serious. Here's a "friendly" message from a real Christian to all you pharisees out there:

***potty language removed***

And feel free to contact me if you give a rats ass about the real meaning of Christianity.

[Faith_Machine]

Re: Please Help Me Be Saved...

Why not lend me a hand?

I will be more than happy to lend you a hand:

Do you have a copy of the 1611 King James Bible? If not, get one and start reading it!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Please Help Me Be Saved...

Jesus said to love your neighbors, right? Why not lend me a hand?

You are clearly not one of my neighbors. Did you think that "neighbor" means everyone in the world?

Luke 10:29, 36-37 But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour? Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?

"Neighbor" means "fellow True Christian(tm)." We are very kind to OUR neighbors.

[Faith_Machine]

Re: Please Help Me Be Saved...

Charlotte, we have no greater wish than for you to be in Heaven with us. I'm very worried about this "confirmation" business, though. If you were a fourteen year old boy, I would already be assuming you'd been sodomized by your priest.

[Charlotte Sometimes]

Re: Please Help Me Be Saved...

Dear Morbidly Obese Heathen;

Have you ever even picked up a Bible? Or do you just make up Christianity as you go?

If you'd like to find out more about Landover Baptist Church, please read THIS thread created especially for new posters.

If you have a question, use the "search" function before posting it. Most likely it is being discussed somewhere on this Godly forum. Please don't waste God's precious bandwidth.

You will keep a respectful tongue in your head whenever addressing your betters, which includes all True Christians™. Failure to do so, or any attempt at inciting debate or mockery of God's Divine Plan, can and will result in the suspension of your posting privileges.

Your rights on this forum are listed HERE. If you feel that any of these rights have been violated, please don't hesitate to contact a Pastor at once.

YIC,

--Pastor Ezekiel

...okay, I'm about to just be done. This is becoming... ugh. I only wanted to discover the love of Jesus, but all I'm getting is the hate of human hearts. I'm really, really trying my best. I honestly, with all my heart, want to understand. So why won't anyone help me without calling me ignorant filth? Maybe, just maybe, I'm not the ignorant one here. I'm trying to present what my current knowledge of Christianity is in a civilized way, and I want someone to explain to me without using it as an excuse to exalt themselves. I'm not unsaved. I don't know why I bothered to seek God here. I thought the people here would show me love and compassion, as did the good Samaritan. I was clearly mistaken. May I point out that your signature says that the unforgiving, the boasters, and the unmerciful will be damned? Well, nobody seems to have been very forgiving and merciful to me so far, and no offense, but I see quite a bit of self-righteousness bouncing around. There's multiple ways to interpret the Bible, and I wish people were more open minded to accept that, yeah, someone can have a belief that slightly differs from mine and still go to heaven.

Please. Just someone give me straight answers. Jesus said to love your neighbors, right? Why not lend me a hand?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Please Help Me Be Saved...

Dear Morbidly Obese Heathen;

Have you ever even picked up a Bible? Or do you just make up Christianity as you go?

If you'd like to find out more about Landover Baptist Church, please read THIS thread created especially for new posters.

If you have a question, use the "search" function before posting it. Most likely it is being discussed somewhere on this Godly forum. Please don't waste God's precious bandwidth.

You will keep a respectful tongue in your head whenever addressing your betters, which includes all True Christians™. Failure to do so, or any attempt at inciting debate or mockery of God's Divine Plan, can and will result in the suspension of your posting privileges.

Your rights on this forum are listed HERE. If you feel that any of these rights have been violated, please don't hesitate to contact a Pastor at once.

YIC,

--Pastor Ezekiel

[Charlotte Sometimes]

Re: Please Help Me Be Saved...

Speaking of your father, do you have his permission to be posting messages here? And who's in charge of you when he's away? Please don't say your mother. I've seen what happens when you put women in charge of women.

Utter chaos.

Yes, I have parental permission to post here.

And... excuse me? My mother has raised four kids and is perfectly capable of taking care of us..

[Faith_Machine]

Re: Please Help Me Be Saved...

Speaking of your father, do you have his permission to be posting messages here? And who's in charge of you when he's away? Please don't say your mother. I've seen what happens when you put women in charge of women.

Utter chaos.

[Charlotte Sometimes]

Re: Please Help Me Be Saved...

So are the True Christians here incapable of sin? What's the difference between being without and being incapable of? And how does one repent? I was under the impression that it meant renouncing them, but is it not?

I was never taught to worship any saints. Also, I do have a webcam, but it's strictly for talking to my father when he's away on business trips. I apologize.

[Faith_Machine]

Re: Please Help Me Be Saved...

Confirmation? Tell us, which saints do they teach you to worship in your confirmation class?


Anyway, it's always exciting to meet a young lady such as yourself who's hungry to know the Lord. Do you have a Web cam?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Please Help Me Be Saved...

So Christians do not sin? Of course they do... I'm confused...

Of course you are. You've been misled your whole life.

No, what does it mean to repent then?

One only needs to repent of sin.

Isn't sayings like this similar to the stories of the pharisees?

No.

Didn't they believe that they were without sin and completely righteous in God's eyes?

Erroneously thinking one is without sin and being made a New Creature and thus incapable of sin are two different things, dear. I shared with you what the LORD says about sinning and being Born Again. Why do you not trust Him?

Weren't they the ones with all the crazily-interpreted rules that Jesus said were manmade and not of God? I am in no way trying to go against any of the teachings here in any regard, but it's hurting my head. I'm so confused. I've joined here because I know I fall short of the glory of god and I want the help of strong Christians to guide me on the right path. But I've already been labeled unsaved trash, demon-possessed, and "an underaged baby". I'm on the verge of tears because these teachings are different from everything about Christianity I've ever known; I'm already being excluded because I'm not a perfect Christian yet, and everything seems so hateful and judgemental to my sheltered eyes. I thought He was a God of love? I thought He wanted me to be a part of his kingdom and not thrown away like the "unsaved trash" I am... The more I read, the more my head hurts and the more alienated I feel...

Have you read the introduction threads for noobs? They explain why you've been described as "unsaved trash," as well as how to become Saved.