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  • Didymus Much
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    Re: Hi everybody

    Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
    You make Mohammed sound almost like an Arabic Joseph Smith - liar and storyteller, creating a new religion for sexual privileges.

    What gets me is how people can actually believe that the creator of the universe would choose for a messenger someone who couldn't (because he was illiterate, as in Mohammed's case) or just plain didn't bother to write down anything him/herself, so we end up relying on other's questionable memories for any information at all. Then all these scraps and fragments of questionable veracity and provenance are compiled at a later time by still other shadowy figures whose motivations we have little or no information about.

    Are they stupid or just gullible?

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  • Atheist Interloper
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    Originally posted by Shahrani View Post



    That is scary

    is that what you belief about your GOD.

    My GOD is much merciful and I am sure he will not treat me like that if Iworship him. he said (my mercy is faster than my anger)

    And he Said(my mercy contain everything)
    Do you have any evidence that this "GOD" character who you speak of exists?

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  • Mary Etheldreda
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    Originally posted by Didymus Much View Post
    How do you say, "BULLSHIT", in Arabic? NOTHING from Mohammed's time (if he even existed at all) is available, it was all destroyed.

    Timeline:
    632 AD: Mohammed dies
    632 AD: Compilation of Qu'ran begins under first Caliph, Abu Bakr as-Siddiq
    653-656 AD: Qu'ran in the form we know it today canonized by Uthman ibn Affan, who then DESTROYS AND BURNS ALL PRIMARY DOCUMENTS.
    You make Mohammed sound almost like an Arabic Joseph Smith - liar and storyteller, creating a new religion for sexual privileges.

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  • Redeemed Papist
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    Why do we have to endure this parade of people who make God up in their heads then get angry at everyone else for not having made up God just the same as them? It's a bit ridiculous. We don't need to make God up because God is real and He made sure that the best way to get His message across (the KJV) came to be.

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  • Mary Etheldreda
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    Originally posted by Shahrani View Post

    that is what you have teached but it is not the truth.
    Son, you don't know much about your own religion, do you? You think your idea about islam is correct and everyone else is just a little (or a lot) "off." Time to grow up, Jack, your religion is taught by its leaders to be a certain way, and that way does not include your romantic peace-train ideal.

    Originally posted by Shahrani View Post
    Dear Mary
    Do not worry about what people can lie on this man and read about him right. there are just lies. I can say something like that for anyone.
    Just read this book
    The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History
    by Michael H. Hart

    the first one is Mohammad

    Oh look, I found a resource that said Ashoka the Great was the most influential person in history. Your guru came in sixth. Unsurprisingly, I don't find that particularly persuasive either.

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  • Didymus Much
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    Re: Hi everybody

    Originally posted by Shahrani View Post
    ...Quran have no translations at all.(the original one from Mohammad time is still available)...
    How do you say, "BULLSHIT", in Arabic? NOTHING from Mohammed's time (if he even existed at all) is available, it was all destroyed.

    Timeline:
    632 AD: Mohammed dies
    632 AD: Compilation of Qu'ran begins under first Caliph, Abu Bakr as-Siddiq
    653-656 AD: Qu'ran in the form we know it today canonized by Uthman ibn Affan, who then DESTROYS AND BURNS ALL PRIMARY DOCUMENTS.

    ...Throughout his life, Muhammad continued to have revelations until before his death in 632. Muslim and non-Muslim scholars alike disagree on whether the Prophet compiled the Qur'an during his lifetime or if this task began with the first caliph Abu Bakr as-Siddiq (632-634). Once the Qur'an was compiled, due to the unanimity of the sources, Muslims agree that the Qur'an we see today was canonized by Uthman ibn Affan (653-656). Upon the canonization of the Qur'an, Uthman had the other codices that existed at the time destroyed and burnt...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Quran

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  • Redeemed Papist
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    Originally posted by Shahrani View Post



    That is scary

    is that what you belief about your GOD.

    My GOD is much merciful and I am sure he will not treat me like that if Iworship him. he said (my mercy is faster than my anger)

    And he Said(my mercy contain everything)
    But your god doesn't exist.

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  • Redeemed Papist
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    Originally posted by Shahrani View Post
    Donot worry about me. I already have an excuse if your religion is the truth withthe way you dealt with me.

    Yourway of discussion is not a GOD way. It is purely humanity.
    And you know this because...

    2 Timothy 4:2-5 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
    For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
    And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
    But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

    As you can see, we are just doing the will of God.

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  • Shahrani
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    Originally posted by Faith_Machine View Post
    Why would Jesus listen to you? Do you think He's going to learn something from you that He did not already know?

    As to your belief that Jesus will tell you the truth in a very peaceful way, how do you reconcile that notion with the following verses?







    The way I see it, boy, the only peaceful thing Jesus is going to say in your presence will be the eulogy He delivers after He spits that sharp sword out of His mouth and uses it to cut you in half.




    That is scary

    is that what you belief about your GOD.

    My GOD is much merciful and I am sure he will not treat me like that if Iworship him. he said (my mercy is faster than my anger)

    And he Said(my mercy contain everything)

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  • George W. Jenkins
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    Originally posted by Shahrani View Post
    Dear Pim

    How can anyone distinguish between a devil religion or true religion exceptthat the true religion is filled with mercy and goodness. The devil religion isfull with wrong words and revile.
    Dear Islamofascist insurgent,

    True religion is whatever God says it is in the KJV Bible. How else could you know what goodness even means?

    You are using circular logic by using goodness to define true religion. Duh!

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  • Shahrani
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    Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post
    So your excuse for rejecting Christ, when you stand before Him seated on His throne at His Father's right hand, will be, "I didn't believe in You because the Christians at Landover Baptist treated me badly"?

    Why not accept the truth on the merits of Scripture rather than on the merits of Christians?

    Not that I think we have treated you badly. Just that it's no excuse.

    Dear Pim

    How can anyone distinguish between a devil religion or true religion exceptthat the true religion is filled with mercy and goodness. The devil religion isfull with wrong words and revile.

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  • Faith_Machine
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    Originally posted by Shahrani View Post
    I love Jesus and I respect him and I still belief he is coming back once. Ido not think if he sees me he will insult me. I belief he will listen to me andthat I love him. He will tell me the truth in a very peaceful way. Just becauseI love him.

    Why would Jesus listen to you? Do you think He's going to learn something from you that He did not already know?

    As to your belief that Jesus will tell you the truth in a very peaceful way, how do you reconcile that notion with the following verses?

    Matthew 10:34

    34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

    Revelation 19:15

    15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

    The way I see it, boy, the only peaceful thing Jesus is going to say in your presence will be the eulogy He delivers after He spits that sharp sword out of His mouth and uses it to cut you in half.

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  • Pim Pendergast
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    Re: Hi everybody

    Originally posted by Shahrani View Post
    Donot worry about me. I already have an excuse if your religion is the truth withthe way you dealt with me.

    Yourway of discussion is not a GOD way. It is purely humanity.
    So your excuse for rejecting Christ, when you stand before Him seated on His throne at His Father's right hand, will be, "I didn't believe in You because the Christians at Landover Baptist treated me badly"?

    Why not accept the truth on the merits of Scripture rather than on the merits of Christians?

    Not that I think we have treated you badly. Just that it's no excuse.

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  • Shahrani
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    Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
    Is this camel-botherer going to praise Jesus or not?

    I notice he doesn't seem the least bit receptive to the KJV. What exactly is his problem? It's a no brainer. Turn or burn, Abdul. God won't let you live forever until you decide.

    Donot worry about me. I already have an excuse if your religion is the truth withthe way you dealt with me.

    Yourway of discussion is not a GOD way. It is purely humanity.

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  • Shahrani
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    Originally posted by Tomas Torquemada View Post
    Ok Shah of Iran.
    Originally posted by Tomas Torquemada View Post

    I have tried to gentle with you as I know that you lack theunderstanding of us Christians. Now the stick will get a little bigger.

    1. The Torah and the Holy Bible are older than your book offairytales about death, destruction and rape.


    I am not Shea Tomas

    Do not be blind

    I do not see any stick it is just talk

    I agree with you that Torah and Holy Bible are older than Quran. Ido know what you mean by fairytales but there is a big agreement between Quranand bible about what will happen in the after death.

    there is no rape in Quran. Actually, Quran is the strictest bookabout fornication.

    Originally posted by Tomas Torquemada View Post

    2. Your "Prophet" was a megalomaniac warlord whotook all the arab multi deity religions and combined them all into 1 sick andtwisted perverse religion..


    That in not true

    Mohammad peace be upon him tries his best to avoid conflicts andwars. That is to correct your information. If you want more books about hishistory I am glad to help you. it is just for honesty.

    Originally posted by Tomas Torquemada View Post

    3. The main edict of your manifesto (I can no longer call it areligion) is world dominance.

    Do you have a copy of Khomeni's "Little Green Book"? Iwill not post the perversions that are, according to one of your holiest ofholy men, allowed under your religion....


    I still say I am not Shea and I do believe that Shea have hugemistakes in thier Relgion



    We have the same statements in Quran but with some differences. The Gazais not there. Instead it is called the TitanicFolks.

    That is interesting

    Originally posted by Tomas Torquemada View Post

    Now is the time to reject your religion and embrace the OneTrue Faith of the Lord - Christianity.

    If you don't:

    Psalms 9:17

    The wicked shall be turned into hell,and all the nations that forget God.


    Not


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