Here I Am

[Izmael ibn Ibrahim]

Tell us what church you go to

Up until two years ago I was a Baptist, but now I go to a local mosque.

and what your favorite Bible verse is

My favourite Bible verse is Deut 18:18 because it speaks about the Prophet Muhammad (piss be upon him).

I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

and how you came to find Jesus.

My story is not so much one of how I came to find Jesus (piss be upon him) but how I came to see who he really was — a prophet. I made a “commitment to Christ” and got baptized when I was 16. For a while everything was okay. But a couple of years ago, when my father was sick, I kept running into this Muslim guy who was visiting someone else down at the hospital. We got to talking about spiritual matters, and the simplicity of Islam really impressed me. It’s much easier to understand than Christianity. He inspired me to do some study for myself, and in the end I reverted to Islam.

So why have I joined this forum? Well, you guys might be a bit liberal, but we share a few common causes, such as the fight against homosexuality and evolution, and a few common beliefs, such as that one day the Prophet Jesus (piss be upon him) will return. And I hope I can help you all understand what Islam is really about.

[Brother Harold Porter]

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Welcome, I guess. What is your favorite explosive? ANFO, C-4, TNT? Do you all use pads for the foreheads on the ground? How many wraps are in a turbine?

And we know full well what Islam is about, so not to worry.

In Christ

[Dr Laurence Niles]

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Up until two years ago I was a Baptist, but now I go to a local mosque.



My favourite Bible verse is Deut 18:18 because it speaks about the Prophet Muhammad (piss be upon him).

I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

My story is not so much one of how I came to find Jesus (piss be upon him) but how I came to see who he really was — a prophet. I made a “commitment to Christ” and got baptized when I was 16. For a while everything was okay. But a couple of years ago, when my father was sick, I kept running into this Muslim guy who was visiting someone else down at the hospital. We got to talking about spiritual matters, and the simplicity of Islam really impressed me. It’s much easier to understand than Christianity. He inspired me to do some study for myself, and in the end I reverted to Islam.

So why have I joined this forum? Well, you guys might be a bit liberal, but we share a few common causes, such as the fight against homosexuality and evolution, and a few common beliefs, such as that one day the Prophet Jesus (piss be upon him) will return. And I hope I can help you all understand what Islam is really about.

Why have you rejected God to worship a stupid moon deity?

YIC

[Izmael ibn Ibrahim]

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Welcome, I guess. What is your favorite explosive? ANFO, C-4, TNT? Do you all use pads for the foreheads on the ground? How many wraps are in a turbine?

And we know full well what Islam is about, so not to worry.

In Christ

We don't all wear turbans, that's mostly Seikhs, and from your response I can tell you don't really understand what it's about. Islam is about peace.

Why have you rejected God to worship a stupid moon deity?

YIC

That's where you're wrong. Everyone is born with a belief in Allah. As we get older, we may stray from it. When I realised Christianity was wrong, I returned to my original faith.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

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We don't all wear turbans, that's mostly Seikhs, and from your response I can tell you don't really understand what it's about. Islam is about peace.



That's where you're wrong. Everyone is born with a belief in Allah. As we get older, we may stray from it. When I realised Christianity was wrong, I returned to my original faith.

Where in the Bible(KJV1611) does it say anything about allah of moohamed?

That's right: nowhere.

YIC

[Brother Harold Porter]

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Islam is about peace.

Mm hmm. Until someone scribbles a silly cartoon in a newspaper. We know what happens then.



Christians tolerate many degrees of persecution every single day, and you don't see us declaring jihots or fatwads.

In Christ

[Izmael ibn Ibrahim]

Re: Here I Am

Where in the Bible(KJV1611) does it say anything about allah of moohamed?

That's right: nowhere.

YIC

That's wrong: here:

Deut 18:18
I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Hab 3:3
God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran. Selah. His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise.

These passages are about the Prophet (pbuh).

[Izmael ibn Ibrahim]

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you don't see us declaring jihots or fatwads.

Ahem! Iraq. Afghanistan.

Until someone scribbles a silly cartoon in a newspaper. We know what happens then.

How would you guys react if someone scribbled a caricature of Jesus (peace be upon him).

[Zechariah Smyth]

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Welcome! You say that you "reverted" back to islam. I thought you started out as a Baptist?



Yours in Christ (NOT CAT STEVENS),

Z. Smyth

[Dr Laurence Niles]

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These passages are about the Prophet (pbuh).

Prove it.

YIC

[Didymus Much]

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...Islam is about peace...

And shooting girls in the head for daring to want to go to school so that their children aren't forced to grow up in a disease-ridden, poverty-stricken hellhole where they have the basic human right to SHUT THE FUCK UP.

I don't think you need a link.

[FreeFromBrains]

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Ahem! Iraq. Afghanistan.

They are economic wars. Not religious wars.

[Little Donkey]

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And shooting girls in the head for daring to want to go to school so that their children aren't forced to grow up in a disease-ridden, poverty-stricken hellhole where they have the basic human right to *obscenity deleted*.

I don't think you need a link.

Steady there now Didymus! Isn't it just typical that, while the religious folk are quietly discussing the differences in our beliefs, an atheist barges in uninvited trying to offend everyone and making veiled threats about shooting people . I think we can all agree what the real problem is here, eh Sinbad?

[Izmael ibn Ibrahim]

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Welcome! You say that you "reverted" back to islam. I thought you started out as a Baptist?

I started out with belief in Allah (when I was born), I became a polytheistic trinitarian Christian and then reverted back to belief in Allah. We prefer not to call it "conversion."

Prove it.

Deut 18:18
I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

This is a promise that a prophet would come from among the brethren of the Israelites. If this was about Isa/ Jesus (peace be upon him), shouldn't it read "from among their children?" The brothers of the Israelites are the Ishmaelites and the Prophet (pbuh) was a descendant of Ishmael. Also it says that Allah will put His words in his mouth and the Prophet (pbuh) would speak everything Allah commanded. Muhammad (pbuh) did this.

Hab 3:3
God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran. Selah. His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise.

The Holy One from mount Paran is Muhammad (pbuh). Paran is in the region of Mecca.

[Zechariah Smyth]

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I started out with belief in Allah (when I was born), I became a polytheistic trinitarian Christian and then reverted back to belief in Allah. We prefer not to call it "conversion."

Ah, gotcha. So it's like a re-conversion. Interesting.

Deut 18:18
I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

This is a promise that a prophet would come from among the brethren of the Israelites. If this was about Isa/ Jesus (piss be upon him), shouldn't it read "from among their children?" The brothers of the Israelites are the Ishmaelites and the Prophet (pbuh) was a descendant of Ishmael. Also it says that Allah will put His words in his mouth and the Prophet (pbuh) would speak everything Allah commanded. Muhammad (pbuh) did this.

Hab 3:3
God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran. Selah. His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise.

The Holy One from mount Paran is Muhammad (pbuh). Paran is in the region of Mecca.

Do you twist the koran as much as you twist the Bible?



By the way, I agree with you that islam is simpler than Christianity...that's why it attracts so many simpletons.

YiC,

Zech