[Rev. Edward Clement]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

You trust less your own judgement then the Bibles?

Friend, the Bible tells us not to follow what we think is right by our own understanding.

Proverbs
3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

The Lord speaks through us; therefore, He thinks for us.

Matthew

10:19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.
10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

You trust less your own judgement then the Bibles?

That's True Christianity(tm) in a nutshell. Why you would trust your own judgement, what you see and hear, more than the Bible, I will never know.

[evasson]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

Wrong. The entire Bible is from God. Bible can validate whether science is true or not, not the other way around.

You trust less your own judgement then the Bibles?

[Basilissa]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

Science can only validate what is true or not in the Bible, ofcourse some parts of the New Testament are originally from God.

Wrong. The entire Bible is from God. Bible can validate whether science is true or not, not the other way around.

[evasson]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

So the "real", "true" religion will only happen at some time in the future?

If that is true, then God has pre-condemned to everlasting torment in Hell everyone unfortunate enough to live before that time, because they (and we are part of that "they") never had a chance to be exposed to the "real" "true" religion.

If that is true, then God is a monster who deserves no worship, hence is not God, and that "religion" you foresee is naught but a sham.

God (by definition) must be eternal and unchanging.

Science can only validate what is true or not in the Bible, ofcourse some parts of the New Testament are originally from God.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

Men can not give birth, but they can make many women pregnant while a women only can be pregnant one man at a time.

and?

This means men shouldn't work, they should fight. Women should work and give birth to as many God servants as possible also educate the children.

What are you going on about? What do you mean "men shouldn't work"? I assume you're a lazy liebral who sits around waiting for his government to give him his handouts?

But you are wrong Jesus Christ was a prophet with a free will, otherwise why would God test him for 40 days if he couldn't sin?

So you're a lazy liebral mudslime? Jesus was not a prophet, he was GOD INCARNATE!

Disgusting heresies that you spout.

You seem so serious about the Bible, I like kind people but how can you know that everything comes from the Holy Spirit?

Because God said it did. Why do you hate God? Oh right, lazy liebral mudslime.... nevermind.

You should test the statements in the Bible after experience, do you get blessed or cursed. Study Gods responses directly... not blindly follow the Bible.

Where in the Bible does it tell you to do that?

Hi!

I just have a quick question that doesn't really have anything to do with this forum but I thought somebody answer...

I was looking through the forums and found the thread from crankyoldman or something like that saying that down syndrome was a life choice.

I happen to have a brother who has down syndrome and it is not a life choice. Why would anyone choose that life? I'm sure he would rather be a normal boy if he could choose. But he can't. While other boys are starting college, dating a girl, becoming missionaries, moving away, he is at home.

But you say he chose it. Just answer me this;
Do you really believe this and if so, why?

Just more proof that you and your brother are unsaved trash. Convert to True Christianity(tm) and Jesus may start listening to your prayers and cure your brother.

Or you can keep chanting to St. Christina and see how far that gets you.

I understand, but I believe the future religion will be based on science. People will know God directly, and know what actions satisfy God and what don't.

There is already a religion of "science" it's called atheism. It's where you believe you're smarter than the Creator of the world and blindly follow your patron saints like Darwin, Dawkins and Hawking.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

I understand, but I believe the future religion will be based on science...

So the "real", "true" religion will only happen at some time in the future?

If that is true, then God has pre-condemned to everlasting torment in Hell everyone unfortunate enough to live before that time, because they (and we are part of that "they") never had a chance to be exposed to the "real" "true" religion.

If that is true, then God is a monster who deserves no worship, hence is not God, and that "religion" you foresee is naught but a sham.

God (by definition) must be eternal and unchanging.

[Basilissa]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

I understand, but I believe the future religion will be based on science.

Yeah, because the first time it was attempted it went so well. (Hint: French Revolution and the cult of Reason.).

People will know God directly, and know what actions satisfy God and what don't.

We DO know which actions satisfy God and which don't - we have the entire Bible filled with exact instructions.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

I happen to have a brother who has down syndrome and it is not a life choice. Why would anyone choose that life? I'm sure he would rather be a normal boy if he could choose. But he can't. While other boys are starting college, dating a girl, becoming missionaries, moving away, he is at home.

But you say he chose it. Just answer me this;
Do you really believe this and if so, why?

Read the original thread. That answers all your prurient questions and those no good dole welfare scrounges.

YIC

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

How can you know that everything comes from the Holy Spirit?

Because the Bible tells us so.

2 Tim 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Pet 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

You should test the statements in the Bible after experience, do you get blessed or cursed. Study Gods responses directly... not blindly follow the Bible.

Even if experience told me the Bible was wrong, I'd still believe it because it claims to be the Word of God. But yes, you do get blessed for keeping God's Word and cursed for breaking it.

Ps 19:9b-11
9 The judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.
10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
11 Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.

Deut 27:26 Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen.

Even if my experience seemed to be telling me that I was not being blessed for following God's Word and sinners weren't being cursed of not following His Word, it would be my perception that was wrong, not the Bible. The Bible is always right. The problem is that if you interpret on your own experience as a word from God, you have no solid basis for your faith. Different people have different experiences and different perceptions of those experiences. Different people can draw different inferences from the same experience. God has already communicated to us through His Word, the 1611 KJV. We live our lives based solely on that revelation. God's Word is enough to help us deal with every facet of complex modern-day life, every trial we may face and every situation we may find ourselves in -- even if some people's distorted perception of their experience leads them to believe it doesn't always work that way in practice.

If Jesus had no free will, then he was trying to help Satan to come back to heaven.

No, He wasn't.

[evasson]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

Was this supposed to endear me to you? Because it doesn't. Tell me, what does the Bible say about women? And what did that have to do with my comment about you reading the Bible, rather than creating a god in your own image?

It says the first women was created out of a man. She is a part of him, together they compose a whole. The man was alone and God created a other half of himself. For a man to be alone is not good the Bible says.

[evasson]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

People like you with no moral compass apart from being 'true to themselves' make me sick

YIC

I understand, but I believe the future religion will be based on science. People will know God directly, and know what actions satisfy God and what don't.

[ARealTruePapist]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

Hi!

I just have a quick question that doesn't really have anything to do with this forum but I thought somebody answer...

I was looking through the forums and found the thread from crankyoldman or something like that saying that down syndrome was a life choice.

I happen to have a brother who has down syndrome and it is not a life choice. Why would anyone choose that life? I'm sure he would rather be a normal boy if he could choose. But he can't. While other boys are starting college, dating a girl, becoming missionaries, moving away, he is at home.

But you say he chose it. Just answer me this;
Do you really believe this and if so, why?

[evasson]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

It was Satan who tempted Jesus after He had fasted for 40 days.

Mat 4:1-11
1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.
3 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,
6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

The forty days in the wilderness was of course rigged for Satan to lose, because God cannot be tempted.

Jas 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

Jesus had no free will.

Jn 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

If Jesus had no free will, then he was trying to help Satan to come back to heaven.

[evasson]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

You seem so serious about the Bible, I like kind people but how can you know that everything comes from the Holy Spirit?

You should test the statements in the Bible after experience, do you get blessed or cursed. Study Gods responses directly... not blindly follow the Bible.