[Christian_soldier]

Re: Introducing the curious one

First of all, remember we're all fundamental Christians here which means we strongly believe every word in the Bible is ABSOLUTE TRUTH since it was given to us by none other than God.

I am also most likely on my way to Hell due to my beliefs and opinions being different than yours are and I am satisfied with my choice.

And you're proud of your stupidity, but why? Do you have any idea what Hell is like: all you know of that place is what you saw on Television regarding Death Metal bands like Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Slayer and all those minions of Satan. Since, you foolish heathens would believe any non-Biblical source, let me provide you a link from one of your own "beastly sources", the magazine itself is named after the beast.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...e-say-yes.html

Read up above, Hell isn't a cool place as you imagine in your little mind, it's pretty damn hot out there. And the torment is supposed to last forever. I wouldn't fancy subjecting my soul to that kind of eternal torture if I were you. Do you even know what eternal means? = NO RESPITE

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

I am not here to make fun or argue about faith.

You just did by mocking God and disbelieving him.

Deuteronomy 5:9 - Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,

Jeremiah 28:16 - Therefore thus saith the LORD; Behold, I will cast thee from off the face of the earth: this year thou shalt die, because thou hast taught rebellion against the LORD.

Everyone has a right to their own opinion and can choose what they believe in, that is my opinion.

No, you foul, arrogant heathen. You don't get a special privilege to "form your own opinion". You're not even a speck of dust in God's eyes, a worthless termite that God may choose to smite any time He feels bored enough to.

1 Samuel 2:3 - Talk no more so exceeding proudly; let not arrogancy come out of your mouth: for the Lord is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed.

Obadiah 1:3 - The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?

Then why am I here? Because I am genuinely interested in learning about your religion and why our beliefs differ.

Then get down on your knees and beg to God for your past sinful life filled with drugs and fornication. Wash yourself in the blood of Jesus and make a new beginning.

I wish to understand how you motivate your opinions since I with my background cannot do that by default.

We motivate our opinions through one source only. It's called the KJV-Bible (1611).

Read it, each and every chapter from Genesis to Revelation and you will learn http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/

[Luaera]

Re: Introducing the curious one

Witchcraft is a bit over-the-top for me, though wiccans have good points in their teachings, e.g. An ye harm none, do what ye will. That is of course a very wide statement, but I personally believe that as long as you are good towards other people and do good, it will sooner or later come around to me in form of friends and family.

Many of the practices for paganism in it's many forms are a bit too complicated in my opinion and I prefer to keep things nice and simple.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Introducing the curious one

Witchcraft is a bit over-the-top for me, though wiccans have good points in their teachings, e.g. An ye harm none, do what ye will. That is of course a very wide statement

Well of course silly, they stole it from God who invented it in the first place.

And as ye would that men should do to you,
do ye also to them likewise.
Luke 6:31

[see_the_light]

Re: Introducing the curious one

First: I'm sorry if my answers take a while, but I will try my best to answer all posts and questions as quick as I can. English is not my first language and I want to think my answers through grammar wise

My dear

If you can solve your little comma problem we might still make an American of you.

And good spelling and grammar are TRUE CHRISTIAN values, is effort is not wasted and your results please the LORD.

I have not defined any further what branch I belong to yet. Much of the wiccan teachings have appealed to me, but witchcraft and magic is not in my interests.

Excellent

It would be most troubling that you had fallen straight into one of the most abhorrent of sins.

Always remember Exodus 22:18

Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

As for the parts of those false teachings that might have appealed to you, do present them that I might (with GOD's help) rebuke them and bring you to JESUS.

About the Eskimo topic: I do understand that one cannot remember the names of all countries and I will not take offense of being called so thanks to your explanation. At least it is now made clear.

My pleasure, there is always the simple and harmless explanation that we are happy to provide when people ask nicely.

In Finland we are usually lutherans and I wished to be married in a lutheran church. Mostly because the ceremony in itself is beautiful and reminds me of my home and family. I am not aware of there being a LBC (that is the correct abbreviation, isn't it?) church in Finland.

So your church would be Lutheran and your respect for home and family do you honor.

As for the LBC, that would be already with the CHURCH included. And yes, that is the most frequently used acronym, sometimes you might find landover incorrectly split and a reference to LOB might be found in this forum or elsewhere.

As for the efforts of our missionaries in finland it would be best to ask a Pastor, and do check, with them, before joining any LBC affiliated church. The good Pastors would be in the best position to vouch for the particular pastor that leads any particular congregation.

PRAISE THE LORD!

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Introducing the curious one

Much of the wiccan teachings have appealed to me, but witchcraft and magic is not in my interests.

Why disregard such a large part of their doctrine? I mean, pretty much the only thing left is dancing around trees with flowers in your hair.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Attila's Wife]

Re: Introducing the curious one

First: I'm sorry if my answers take a while, but I will try my best to answer all posts and questions as quick as I can. English is not my first language and I want to think my answers through grammar wise .

That is all right, dear. It is probably not your fault, but the fault of your Godless parents, that you were not brought up speaking God's language.

I am going to ignore the wiccan nonsense - you are very young. But it is good that you have cleared up the Eskimo question.

In Finland we are usually lutherans and I wished to be married in a lutheran church. Mostly because the ceremony in itself is beautiful and reminds me of my home and family. I am not aware of there being a LBC (that is the correct abbreviation, isn't it?) church in Finland.

Well, I have the misfortune to come from England where people are usually Church of England (i.e. atheist). But I am not a sheep, and Landover Baptist has welcomed me into its congregation.

I will pray that the same may happen to you, dear.

With all best wishes,
YiC
AW

[see_the_light]

Re: Introducing the curious one

I truly am sorry see the light. I have been infracted upon, and will not act so rashly next time. I also apologize to Luacera for being so harsh.

Not by my hand that infraction, and though I praise your enthusiasm I will explain why I asked you to contain it.

The girl seems to have a christian background but to have found wanting her sect.

Thou tempted by satan she stayed clear of the major sins of wicca.

She tries to address us in proper English, good intentions and wholesome curiosity.

Let us see her arrival as a sign of the first GRACE that JESUS might have spilled upon her.

PRAISE THE LORD!

[Luaera]

Re: Introducing the curious one

First of all, remember we're all fundamental Christians here which means we strongly believe every word in the Bible is ABSOLUTE TRUTH since it was given to us by none other than God.

Yes, I am aware of that and I am not questioning the fact that you see the Bible as absolute truth.

Do you have any idea what Hell is like: all you know of that place is what you saw on Television regarding Death Metal bands like Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Slayer and all those minions of Satan.

I have seen documentaries and read up on the description on Hell and, as you say, I would definitely not want to spend eternity there. I am not yet at the point in life to think about what happens when I pass away (even though it could be around the corner) since my life is changing a lot in many ways at the moment.

You just did by mocking God and disbelieving him.

I have no intention of mocking God and if I have done so: I apologize both to you and Him.

Then get down on your knees and beg to God for your past sinful life filled with drugs and fornication. Wash yourself in the blood of Jesus and make a new beginning.

I wish to clarify that I have never and will never touch drugs in my entire life since that is nothing more than a shortcut to an earthly hell if one is lucky in my opinion.

We motivate our opinions through one source only. It's called the KJV-Bible (1611).

Yes, I have come to understand that that is the case.

[Luaera]

Re: Introducing the curious one

Why disregard such a large part of their doctrine? I mean, pretty much the only thing left is dancing around trees with flowers in your hair.

Z. Smyth

That is not entirely the case. Though witchracft is seen as a big part of their doctrine, there is no rule that you must do that. It is, in the end, your own choice if you wish to take part in that part or not.

[see_the_light]

Re: Introducing the curious one

Witchcraft is a bit over-the-top for me, though wiccans have good points in their teachings, e.g. An ye harm none, do what ye will. That is of course a very wide statement, but I personally believe that as long as you are good towards other people and do good, it will sooner or later come around to me in form of friends and family.

Many of the practices for paganism in it's many forms are a bit too complicated in my opinion and I prefer to keep things nice and simple.

Lets start your education

You mentioned "do what ye will"

May I point to Mark?

Mark 14:36

And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.

Even JESUS had to abide by the will of GOD, thou wilt, not mine. Feel the humbling words of HIM that could but choses to comply.

How vain and proud would you be to judge your will above GOD (and I do think you still believe in HIM).

as for "An ye harm none"

Apart from the folly of the idea (we are constantly harming many if you think clearly), GOD himself establishes many direct laws where "harm" is meant upon sinners, and has in the past often directed HIS people to harm and raze.

Are we to let murderers, pedophiles and thugs roam free? Do we harm them not when we take away their freedom or their lives?

And if for the earthly good of people we are entitled.

Did I say entitled? We are duty-bound to remove those cases from the society of man.

How much more when it is not merely the law of man that they break.

How much more when it is not to save just life, limb or property but the soul itself.

Hope these first comments help your reflection.

PRAISE THE LORD!

[Christian_soldier]

Re: Introducing the curious one

Yes, I am aware of that and I am not questioning the fact that you see the Bible as absolute truth.

I have seen documentaries and read up on the description on Hell and, as you say, I would definitely not want to spend eternity there. I am not yet at the point in life to think about what happens when I pass away (even though it could be around the corner) since my life is changing a lot in many ways at the moment.

I have no intention of mocking God and if I have done so: I apologize both to you and Him.

I wish to clarify that I have never and will never touch drugs in my entire life since that is nothing more than a shortcut to an earthly hell if one is lucky in my opinion.

Yes, I have come to understand that that is the case.

Always admire someone who comes around so quickly. We sincerely appreciate genuine conversions. A word to the wise, please give up on that Lutheran belief system since it has been proved heretical. I was an Anglican before and that's what got me so confused back then. There's only one way to salvation, becoming a born-again Baptist like me and reading the KJV-Bible in English. Trust it you'll feel a world of difference.

YIC,
Peace

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Introducing the curious one

That is not entirely the case. Though witchracft is seen as a big part of their doctrine, there is no rule that you must do that. It is, in the end, your own choice if you wish to take part in that part or not.

So why follow it at all if by your own admission a large part of it is crap?



That would be like someone claiming to be a Christian but being ok with (for instance) queers getting married, or abortion.



It simply doesn't make sense.

YiC,

Zech

[see_the_light]

Re: Introducing the curious one

Yes, I am aware of that and I am not questioning the fact that you see the Bible as absolute truth.





I have seen documentaries and read up on the description on Hell and, as you say, I would definitely not want to spend eternity there. I am not yet at the point in life to think about what happens when I pass away (even though it could be around the corner) since my life is changing a lot in many ways at the moment.




I have no intention of mocking God and if I have done so: I apologize both to you and Him.




I wish to clarify that I have never and will never touch drugs in my entire life since that is nothing more than a shortcut to an earthly hell if one is lucky in my opinion.





Yes, I have come to understand that that is the case.

I feel indeed hopeful in reading your answers.

Your understanding that the absolute and unvarnished truth of GOD's word is our compass goes well with your respect for GOD.

And your refraining from drugs convinces me more and more that it was JESUS that led you to us.

As does your will not to end up in hell. But when you state that " I am not yet at the point in life to think about what happens when I pass away", may I remind you that our lives can be cut short individually ANY moment HE choses, and collectively we should alway remember tis verse.

2 Peter 3:10

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Any day that you spend outside of CHRIST is a grievous wager against your soul.

PRAY TO JESUS!

[see_the_light]

Re: Introducing the curious one

It simply doesn't make sense.

YiC,

Zech

It would only make even less sense if she had soiled her soul with witchcraft and satan worshiping. She has only but dabbled outside of christianity and her disappointment with lutheranism is more than comprehensible. Praise the LORD that he led us to us soon enough.

My guess is that it is only the sin of prideful youth and the lack of a TRUE CHRISTIAN man in her life. These fragile girls are told all those LIEberal ideas and then left roaming this world without the guidance they so desperately need. It is the most abominable of treasons this abandoning of these little children.

PRAY TO JESUS!

[Luaera]

Re: Introducing the curious one

You mentioned "do what ye will". May I point to Mark?

My interpretation on that part is not as literal actually. When paired with "An ye harm none" it is a guideline that says that you should do best to be a good person to others. And I would not see that my will and judgement is over Gods. I can choose what I say and do (as I am a mere mortal), but God is the one who in the end has the last word about right and wrong in the case.

as for "An ye harm none"

Apart from the folly of the idea (we are constantly harming many if you think clearly), GOD himself establishes many direct laws where "harm" is meant upon sinners, and has in the past often directed HIS people to harm and raze.

Are we to let murderers, pedophiles and thugs roam free? Do we harm them not when we take away their freedom or their lives?

Indeed it is hard, if not impossible to not harm anything or anyone, but one can always do their best. And I would not let murderers, etc., roam free.

Another part of the teachings is that "What you send forth comes back to thee, so always mind the law of three". Which means that what you send out (by doing or saying something) comes back to you three times better/worse depending on your acts nature. So if you do something that is wrong it comes back around sooner or later.