[MathTechScienceTurd]

Re: Mathematics and God? Musings from a junkie.

Me, believe in magical beings?



Hardly!



Oh, I can receive PMs...you can't SEND them.

Don't worry kid: someday you'll understand the internets.

I should learn to understand the internet? HA! You all are so pathetic! You don't even believe in cybercrime! While successful investigations could bring back stolen information or money to you, you all simply say "It's an act of God" or "Satan is among us."

The runners of this site should learn the internet! Such a poor UI. Also, virtually no security. Nice.

[MathTechScienceTurd]

Re: Mathematics and God?

I bring God's Word "to the table." What more logic is needed other than the fact that God explicitly says pi is 3? You may be content to trust Satan and his lies, but I choose the ultimate truth and God's salvation from secular lies.

"The Bible says so" is the ultimate reason...all else is flailing about on your way to hell, son. Why do you choose to oppose God and go to hell? Is this logical?

While I have made a study in secular mathematics...I recognize that it must in fact be flawed with regards to the the value of pi and everything that is built on this lie simply because it disagrees with God.

God is perfect, all-knowing and incapable of telling lies...God says pi = 3...ergo, pi = 3. How's that for logic? Can you follow it?

You are a waste of a mathematical mind. You have the potential to have one of the most beautiful minds in the world. But you choose to be left in the dust, crutching innovation in the world of mathematics, science, and engineering.
HERE is some beautiful logic behind the real Pi: http://www.slideshare.net/yaherglanite/estimating-pi

A true mathematician must be shown reasoning. Do you just believe that the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus is true because someone says it is? NO, you want to be shown!

You know what else is law? log(abc) = log(a+b+c) but would you just believe it if you were only told for the first time?
God blessed humans with such a beautiful, intelligence mind. Use it, don't waste it.

[Mark L. Snyde, PhD]

Re: Mathematics and God?

You are a waste of a mathematical mind. You have the potential to have one of the most beautiful minds in the world. But you choose to be left in the dust, crutching innovation in the world of mathematics, science, and engineering.
HERE is some beautiful logic behind the real Pi: http://www.slideshare.net/yaherglanite/estimating-pi

A true mathematician must be shown reasoning. Do you just believe that the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus is true because someone says it is? NO, you want to be shown!

You know what else is law? log(abc) = log(a+b+c) but would you just believe it if you were only told for the first time?
God blessed humans with such a beautiful, intelligence mind. Use it, don't waste it.

Son, log(abc) = log(a) + log(b) + log( c). Please learn some precalc before attempting to school us on mathematics. The identity you attempt to present is only true if (a,b,c) is one of the permutations of (1,2,3).

Your lack of mathematical knowledge aside, vastly more important is whether we are right with God or not. Why do you choose to oppose God? You have skirted this issue, and it is way more important than any mathematics...

[MathTechScienceTurd]

Re: Mathematics and God?

Son, log(abc) = log(a) + log(b) + log( c). Please learn some precalc before attempting to school us on mathematics. The identity you attempt to present is only true if (a,b,c) is one of the permutations of (1,2,3).

Your lack of mathematical knowledge aside, vastly more important is whether we are right with God or not. Why do you choose to oppose God? You have skirted this issue, and it is way more important than any mathematics...

My mistake with typing. Yes, that only works with (1,2,3) because 1+2+3 = 1x2x3 Duh. Woops on my part. But the point still stands. If I were to go tell someone not well educated in mathematics that log(abc) = log(a+b+c), they might believe it. Same thing with pi = 3. People believe because a book says so.

[Mark L. Snyde, PhD]

Re: Mathematics and God?

My mistake with typing. Yes, that only works with (1,2,3) because 1+2+3 = 1x2x3 Duh. Woops on my part. But the point still stands. If I were to go tell someone not well educated in mathematics that log(abc) = log(a+b+c), they might believe it. Same thing with pi = 3. People believe because a book says so.

Your analogy is fallacious...you are not God.

If God says log(abc) = log(a + b + c), then this is in fact true. However, I am not aware of God having anything to say about elementary logarithms in His Word.

What of my vastly more important point regarding your defiance of God? Why are you hiding from this issue? Why do you torture God with your sin? Why do you force him to send you to an eternity of torment? Aren't these issues far more relevant to your existence?

[MathTechScienceTurd]

Re: Mathematics and God?

Son, log(abc) = log(a) + log(b) + log( c). Please learn some precalc before attempting to school us on mathematics. The identity you attempt to present is only true if (a,b,c) is one of the permutations of (1,2,3).

Your lack of mathematical knowledge aside, vastly more important is whether we are right with God or not. Why do you choose to oppose God? You have skirted this issue, and it is way more important than any mathematics...

You seem like a respectable, intelligent man. And I am going to leave it there. Because I know that there are mathematical ways to show that Pi = 3 (not as an approximation). And I am sure you know of some of these methods as well.

As for the question, I do not deny God. This began with me pondering the idea of God's language being much more elegant and divine than human language. And this is the language he used to create the universe. And maybe, some of it can translate into mathematics. I would have expected someone like yourself to ponder over the same question.

[Mark L. Snyde, PhD]

Re: Mathematics and God?

You seem like a respectable, intelligent man. And I am going to leave it there. Because I know that there are mathematical ways to show that Pi = 3 (not as an approximation). And I am sure you know of some of these methods as well.

As for the question, I do not deny God. This began with me pondering the idea of God's language being much more elegant and divine than human language. And this is the language he used to create the universe. And maybe, some of it can translate into mathematics. I would have expected someone like yourself to ponder over the same question.

Well, I am aware of erroneous ways to show that pi = 3, but the true mathematics has not been found as of yet, nor is it actively being sought by the secular world. This would require tearing down the house to the foundation and beginning anew. The mathematical community at large is content to defy God.

Perhaps the truth of the matter is that only God is capable of understanding mathematics, and so Satan produced a flawed system with the goal of giving man the audacity to think we can understand the mind of God. Look what such thinking got Stephen Hawking.

Either we accept God's Word, or we reject God. 1 Thessalonians 2:13

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Mathematics and God? Musings from a junkie.

The runners of this site should learn the internet! Such a poor UI. Also, virtually no security. Nice.

Listen very closely: a veiled threat is still a threat. Interstate transmission of a threat is a felony.

That's your only warning on that subject.

YiC,

Zech

[MathTechScienceTurd]

Re: Mathematics and God? Musings from a junkie.

1) I would never hack a website. That is not what I do.

2) That is an interesting view on mathematics that I have never considered. Do you think that all mathematics could be false and thrust upon us by Satan?

[Naomi Ruth Lamb]

Re: Mathematics and God? Musings from a junkie.

"If God didn't like math, would He have named one of the books in the Bible "Numbers"? (Billy Graham, 1964)

I think the most important thing to remember is that our dear potential brother is simply presenting us with a possibility: that God used the language of mathematics - a language that is transcendent and above all that we are - and that we as mere mortals cannot hope to understand that.

He says these things not through the eyes of a True Christian(TM), but through the eyes of someone speculating about something near and dear to his heart. Rather than spew ridiculous arguments at him, let us welcome him and pray for him.

We welcome you, Brother Turd. JESUS loves you, and so do I. Do you like pie? Have you a favorite kind? Perhaps one day I can bake one for you. May our LORD wrap His arms around you and bring you peace.

NRL

[MathTechScienceTurd]

Re: Mathematics and God? Musings from a junkie.

"If God didn't like math, would He have named one of the books in the Bible "Numbers"? (Billy Graham, 1964)

I think the most important thing to remember is that our dear potential brother is simply presenting us with a possibility: that God used the language of mathematics - a language that is transcendent and above all that we are - and that we as mere mortals cannot hope to understand that.

He says these things not through the eyes of a True Christian™, but through the eyes of someone speculating about something near and dear to his heart. Rather than spew ridiculous arguments at him, let us welcome him and pray for him.

We welcome you, Brother Turd. JESUS loves you, and so do I. Do you like pie? Have you a favorite kind? Perhaps one day I can bake one for you. May our LORD wrap His arms around you and bring you peace.

NRL

Thank you very much! That is precisely my original point.