[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Gerlinde from Germany is here

The Bible was written in Aramaic (OT)

Mostly Hebrew, actually.

and Greek (NT): And much was the readers / listeners known, did not have to be especially mentioned.

I have a few problems with that argument.

First, the Bible was not revealed only to people at certain times and places; it was meant for all of us. A Bible that could be understood only within the context of a certain culture would be worthless to everyone outside of that culture. How hard would it be for an omnipotent God to make Himself understood to people of all cultures?

Second, God didn't say not to do it only within the context of certain pagan religious practices. He said not to do it at all. Leviticus 18:21 specifies the prohibited pagan religious practice; if God intended the commandment against crossdressing to be limited in the same way, why did He express Himself so inconsistently?

In addition, the original texts tell us something about it. For example, Paul used in his letter to the Corinthians, two concepts which Luther Lustknabe (catamite) and homosexuals (pederast). The original words are for catamite (malakos) and pederasts (Arsenokoites). Here about this words:




http://www.gaychristian101.com/Arsenokoites.html


http://www.gaychristian101.com/Malakoi.html

http://www.stjohnsmcc.org/new/BibleAbuse/Arsenokoites.php

http://www.stjohnsmcc.org/new/BibleAbuse/Malakos.php

http://www.minuteswithmessiah.com/qu...enokoites.html

You don't seriously expect us to trust those not exactly unbiased sources over God's Word itself, do you? Again, how hard would it be for the Almighty to get His point across?

[Dirtbag Nazi Childmolestor (Quarantined)]

Re: Gerlinde from Germany is here

Then why doesn't the Bible say so? Is the Almighty incapable of getting His point across? God wants us to obey His commandments as given to us and not to add or diminish anything:

[Deuteronomy 12:32 KJV] 32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

The Bible was written in Aramaic (OT) and Greek (NT): And much was the readers / listeners known, did not have to be especially mentioned. In addition, the original texts tell us something about it. For example, Paul used in his letter to the Corinthians, two concepts which Luther Lustknabe (catamite) and homosexuals (pederast). The original words are for catamite (malakos) and pederasts (Arsenokoites). Here about this words:




http://www.gaychristian101.com/Arsenokoites.html


http://www.gaychristian101.com/Malakoi.html

http://www.stjohnsmcc.org/new/BibleAbuse/Arsenokoites.php

http://www.stjohnsmcc.org/new/BibleAbuse/Malakos.php

http://www.minuteswithmessiah.com/question/arsenokoites.html

[Russell Holbeck]

Re: Gerlinde from Germany is here

Rusty, I know these verses. However you take it out of context. Is talked about the pagan temple practices with transvestites, the so-called Hirodules. The priests were the Cananite goddess Astarte / Asheroth, whose priests disguised themselves as women to z: b. with temple visitors to celebrate orgies, mostly of a sexual nature. With Transsexualism has nothing to do, because that was unknown at that time, even if it already existed.
For you a quick information:

With Transsexualism following on facts is described: someone is biologically belonging to one sex, but feels the opposite sex belonging. Feels strange in your own body. To be recognized in Germany as a transsexual person to get hormones and sex reassignment surgery, someone has to overcome a lot of hurdles. Two therapists or psychologists, who are very familiar with the subject, have to make an expertise about it. This report includes medical and endocrinological investigations, and the brain is x-rayed. Namely, there is a specific spot in the brain that shows doctors if someone is really a transsexual. There, the body is smaller in women than in men. Only when both reviewers had the same result, the patient may receive hormones, and two years later admitted for surgical alignment.
I hope, thai was helpful for you.
Transsexualism is NOT a choice, it is an illness.

Hello Gerlinde.

Thank you for your reply I have read the KJV Bible and Hirodules is not mentioned and Astarte is not mentioned and Asheroth is not mentioned.

Also you told me I took a verse out of context even though I did not post a Bible verse here is the one I was thinking of I am including the one right before and the one right after so it is in context look at Deuteronomy 22:4-6 they say:

Thou shalt not see thy brother's ass or his ox fall down by the way, and hide thyself from them: thou shalt surely help him to lift them up again.

The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

If a bird's nest chance to be before thee in the way in any tree, or on the ground, whether they be young ones, or eggs, and the dam sitting upon the young, or upon the eggs, thou shalt not take the dam with the young.

I bolded the part I was talking about.

Thank you.

Rusty

P.S. When the Bible says ass it means donkey and not someone's bottom.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Gerlinde from Germany is here

Transsexualism is a disease.

Then you're not a Christian.



I'm sad to see you hate Jesus after all. What has He ever done to you to make you so angry? All He did was give up His life for three days so you could be spared an eternity of horror created just for people don't love Him, but apparently His temporary sacrifice means nothing to you.

If you truly loved Jesus, if you really did trust Him to mean what He says, then you would have found other True Christians™ to pray over you for healing, and you would have been healed.

Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
James 5:14-15

[Dirtbag Nazi Childmolestor (Quarantined)]

Re: Gerlinde from Germany is here

Better stick to American there, Nena.

I agree with you, because I need to improve my English. Since I had to leave the U.S. in 1981, I've forgotten so much.

[Dirtbag Nazi Childmolestor (Quarantined)]

Re: Gerlinde from Germany is here

The LORD healed you of your abominable sin of cross-dressing!
!

Mary, you do not understand the difference! A transvestite or cross-dresser makes it to earn money, for fun, curiosity. Transsexualism is a disease. Which can also by a sex change can not be cured, but whereby the health improved tremendously. Two suicide attempts and depression were strong enough.

Here, what the medicine says about it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder

It is mentioned as GENDER IDENTITY DISORDER. Wikipedia wrote about it>

Gender identity disorder is classified as a medical disorder by the ICD-10 CM[6] and DSM-5 (called gender dysphoria).

And please read this to understand what reallz happen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder#Signs_and_symptoms

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Gerlinde from Germany is here

Rusty, I know these verses. However you take it out of context. Is talked about the pagan temple practices with transvestites, the so-called Hirodules.

Then why doesn't the Bible say so? Is the Almighty incapable of getting His point across? God wants us to obey His commandments as given to us and not to add or diminish anything:

[Deuteronomy 12:32 KJV] 32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Gerlinde from Germany is here

Is it important in which church you go? For me it is important to be reborn in Jesus, attempts to live so that he is pleased with me, and I've helped to bring others to Christ. I was in the LDS. This cult calls itself a "true and only church of God." And we know that it is nonsense!

Obviously, dear friend, the example of the magic-undie-wearing cult shows that it matters which church you attend. Some (like ours) teach true doctrine grounded in the King James Bible, while others teach heresy. Look at it this way: Various "churches" teach mutually exclusive things, so they can't all be right.

Paul had these words not mean what is clear when one reads the original translation and the text in context. Because women were in the early church even apostles (Junia is mentioned in the Bible), or deacons (Phoebe for example). They have guided parishes, and baptized. Everything in the Bible well documented. This went on until about 150-200 AD., Then women were pushed back from ecclesiastical offices. The last church office was the office of a deacon in the 6th century. Through biblical scholars, theologians, and Historikr everything is well documented.

Then please explain to us (and don't simply assert) what 1 Corinthians 14:34 actually means and how you know.

[Dirtbag Nazi Childmolestor (Quarantined)]

Re: Gerlinde from Germany is here

Hello Gerlinde.

You should not wear women's clothing there is a Bible verse that says not to but I do not have it marked because I do not wear women's clothes their buttons are on the wrong side.

Thank you.

Rusty

Rusty, I know these verses. However you take it out of context. Is talked about the pagan temple practices with transvestites, the so-called Hirodules. The priests were the Cananite goddess Astarte / Asheroth, whose priests disguised themselves as women to z: b. with temple visitors to celebrate orgies, mostly of a sexual nature. With Transsexualism has nothing to do, because that was unknown at that time, even if it already existed.
For you a quick information:

With Transsexualism following on facts is described: someone is biologically belonging to one sex, but feels the opposite sex belonging. Feels strange in your own body. To be recognized in Germany as a transsexual person to get hormones and sex reassignment surgery, someone has to overcome a lot of hurdles. Two therapists or psychologists, who are very familiar with the subject, have to make an expertise about it. This report includes medical and endocrinological investigations, and the brain is x-rayed. Namely, there is a specific spot in the brain that shows doctors if someone is really a transsexual. There, the body is smaller in women than in men. Only when both reviewers had the same result, the patient may receive hormones, and two years later admitted for surgical alignment.
I hope, thai was helpful for you.
Transsexualism is NOT a choice, it is an illness.

[Dirtbag Nazi Childmolestor (Quarantined)]

Re: Gerlinde from Germany is here

Hallo froyline!

Just trying to make you feel welcome; we stick to the Godly American Language here.

In German it means Fräulein (spoken Frauleine)

First of all, Methodists are NOTHING like True Christian™ Baptists. Did you know they allow female preachers in direct violation of Scripture?????

Is it important in which church you go? For me it is important to be reborn in Jesus, attempts to live so that he is pleased with me, and I've helped to bring others to Christ. I was in the LDS. This cult calls itself a "true and only church of God." And we know that it is nonsense!

(1 Corinthians 14:34) "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law."

Paul had these words not mean what is clear when one reads the original translation and the text in context. Because women were in the early church even apostles (Junia is mentioned in the Bible), or deacons (Phoebe for example). They have guided parishes, and baptized. Everything in the Bible well documented. This went on until about 150-200 AD., Then women were pushed back from ecclesiastical offices. The last church office was the office of a deacon in the 6th century. Through biblical scholars, theologians, and Historikr everything is well documented.

[Morton Weinstein]

Re: Gerlinde from Germany is here

A peaceful good day to you, Gerlinde. As you can see from the name, you missed one.

Morton

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Gerlinde from Germany is here

Grüss Gott meine Dame.

Willkommen hier unter uns wahren Christen.

Haben sie die Osteransprache des Heiligen Vaters in Rom verfolgt? Phänomenal, nicht wahr? Ein grosses Glück dass solch ein Priester auf dem einzigen Stuhle Petri sitzt!

Better stick to American there, Nena.

[Regens Kuechl]

Re: Gerlinde from Germany is here

My name Gerlinde, and I live in Berlin, Germany.

Grüss Gott meine Dame.

Willkommen hier unter uns wahren Christen.

Haben sie die Osteransprache des Heiligen Vaters in Rom verfolgt? Phänomenal, nicht wahr? Ein grosses Glück dass solch ein Priester auf dem einzigen Stuhle Petri sitzt!

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Gerlinde from Germany is here

I attend a church that does not belong to the Baptists, the Methodists but is close.

Close is never enough for God. Either you are 100% perfect or you will burn in Hell. (James 2:10)

Do you have your husband's permission to be here?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Gerlinde from Germany is here

I was transsexual...

...I am a Christian since 1998

The LORD healed you of your abominable sin of cross-dressing!

God is so good!

What a wonderful delivery from sin and bondage that must have been! Goodness, to know you disgust the LORD in a special, visceral way, and then to know that He has forgiven you and chooses to see only the face of Christ when He looks at you must be such a wonderful feeling! I'd love to hear more of your testimony, dear! Welcome to God's Favorite Forum on the Interwebs!