[JimmiGerman]

Re: Hello from Hamburg

The golden "trumpet pumper" shows mormoni, the angel who visited Joseph Smith (in his "Second Vision") and told him about the Golden Plates. If he really was a devil he certainly would have kept the G o l d e n Plates and made a beautiful time to himself instead of leading young Joseph to the place where they were hidden!

Correction: the golden "trumpet pumper" shows mormonI,

... not mormoni, stupid I am this evening.

[JimmiGerman]

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MitzaLizalor wrote:

One way to demonstrate that would be by a molecular DNA analysis comparing Amerindians with Israelites. Have you done such an analysis?

No analysis necessary. American Indians don't descend from the Israelites. I know that.

Before hieroglyphics were mastered by Egyptologists, Smith was inspired by demons to offer a "translation" in which he was quite safe because no-one could check his effort. Now we can. Therefore whatever method he used was charlatanism at best and indeed we see the demonic element (there is no other agency at work in mormonism) when the deluded fools who follow this monstrous cult persist in believing Smith has magic powers despite his faux translation having been well and truly exposed. Satan is all you'll find in their moronic temples.

Yes, the Book of Abraham might be one of those scriptures or documents of which the Mormons even themselves in my opinion wished it had never been written or published. Unfortunately it has. For many Mormons Joseph Smith is a fallen prophet, and don't forget there are approx. 70 denominations belonging to the Mormon movement in the US, not only the LDS, and for example the Community of Christ (CofChrist) , the second largest community of Mormon movement, regard the BoM only as an inspired document revealing the wealth of the Gospel.

... über-gauche gold statues of devils masquerading as trumpet pumpers.

The golden "trumpet pumper" shows mormoni, the angel who visited Joseph Smith (in his "Second Vision") and told him about the Golden Plates. If he really was a devil he certainly would have kept the G o l d e n Plates and made a beautiful time to himself instead of leading young Joseph to the place where they were hidden!

[see_the_light]

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as half a Mormon and half a good man.

Let me guess, you believe a girl can be half-pregnant....

2 Peter 2:1

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

moronic mormons are but satan's spawn and will burn as their "angel" throws shovel after shovel of brimstone and hot coals.

PRAISE THE LORD!

[JimmiGerman]

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And she is still there by your side? Btw, how long have you lived together?

Okay - to be honest, and as half a Mormon and half a good man I should never lie, the missionaries haven't visited me for ages and left Hamburg in January this year. Since then I must wash the dishes and switch on the washing machine by myself. Does this answer your question a little?

Something went wrong... but I'm sure to find good advise here in these wonderful and divinely inspired forums.

[MitzaLizalor]

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Thanks for the certainly well meant advise. Maybe the show's portrayal of Mormons is spot on, but does it also correspond to the truth...? As I'm looking for the truth I wouldn't like mockery or mocking about the Mormons. Perhaps I'm already too far in it since I've been studying their doctrine for years. It's solely thanks to them for bringing one like me back to faith.

A show's portrayal being spot on is the same as its corresponding to the truth. In this case, that says nothing about the veracity of Joseph Smith's claims.

For that we need to turn to history. Now sure, we know there was someone called Joseph Smith and that he produced a crock of garbage labelled as a religious belief syttem. That's historical fact. But the lies he told are just that. Lies. One way to demonstrate that would be by a molecular DNA analysis comparing Amerindians with Israelites. Have you done such an analysis?

I will include this brief introduction which although presented in a lighthearted graphics format is historically accurate.

The fact that a deceitful and libidinous wretch can be shown to have existed and to have operated a gargantuan extortion racket with Brigham Young during the 19th century in no way confirms that there were any magic apparitions or fancy gold plates. Before hieroglyphics were mastered by Egyptologists, Smith was inspired by demons to offer a "translation" in which he was quite safe because no-one could check his effort. Now we can. Therefore whatever method he used was charlatanism at best and indeed we see the demonic element (there is no other agency at work in mormonism) when the deluded fools who follow this monstrous cult persist in believing Smith has magic powers despite his faux translation having been well and truly exposed. Satan is all you'll find in their moronic temples.

The Pastors will be able to arrange for you to set up a tithing plan in the most tax-efficient way for your area. You will then be helping Jesus to minister directly, targeted where there is real need and not wasted on over-ornate "cathedrals" or über-gauche gold statues of devils masquerading as trumpet pumpers.

I hope that is helpful.

[Marko Loimaan-Aho]

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Whenever the missionaries came for visiting and teaching me, I sent my girl friend into the kitchen, while I was sitting in the living room comfortably talking with them about the Lord's revelations and other important questions and reading together in the Book of Mormon.

My girl friend only attended the meetings by serving some snacks and a Cola for the missionaries and me. No chance for the missis to get into closer relation with my girl friend. I might be stupid, but I'm not silly, ye know?

And she is still there by your side? Btw, how long have you lived together?

[JimmiGerman]

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Oh, then I am sure there is nothing to be worried about.

Blessings

Marko

Whenever the missionaries came for visiting and teaching me, I sent my girl friend into the kitchen, while I was sitting in the living room comfortably talking with them about the Lord's revelations and other important questions and reading together in the Book of Mormon.

My girl friend only attended the meetings by serving some snacks and a Cola for the missionaries and me. No chance for the missis to get into closer relation with my girl friend. I might be stupid, but I'm not silly, ye know?

[Marko Loimaan-Aho]

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Actually I'm not married, but my girl friend hasn't reported me about any attempts or intentions of the missionaries you mentioned above.

Oh, then I am sure there is nothing to be worried about.

Blessings

Marko

[Basilissa]

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Finnish roots? Really? An attractive young neighbor here once came from Finland, too. At least she was grown up there in Finland. Once I asked her to say s.th. in Finnish, and I couldn't understand a single word. Finnish is one of those languages no one can understand except the Finnish themselves.

Agreed. The same goes for that German gibberish, too.

But this is so wonderful:



So forget the fools' tractor parade. See only this picture. And you might guess why it's called God's own country and why I whished to be there only for a moment of eternity by a twinkling of my eyes. Yes, I'm a romantic. God bless America.

I agree again. There is nothing more beautiful than the sight of miles and miles of over-fertilized genetically modified crops.

[JimmiGerman]

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But this is so wonderful:



So forget the fools' tractor parade. See only this picture. And you might guess why it's called God's own country and why I whished to be there only for a moment of eternity by a twinkling of my eyes. Yes, I'm a romantic. God bless America.

[JimmiGerman]

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All right, I see the point:





It's hardcore. I certainly would run, too.

[JimmiGerman]

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It's not my country, but I've been there. It's true, there's a lot of this: (...)
I ran.

Okay... and what would you do there...? Standing still and devout and singing hallelujah? Look at that horrible place called Cologne:

[Didymus Much]

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...Your country is blessed by all these beautyful things, and you don't see?

It's not my country, but I've been there. It's true, there's a lot of this:



but waaaay too much this:



but when this happened:



I ran.

[JimmiGerman]

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And that's proof that you've never been to Iowa.

And I bet you've never been to Cologne.

It's true, I've never been there in Iowa, but I've seen some images from Iowa and I like the landscape, the farms, and all that peaceful impressions. The "Heartland" of America... bordered by the Missisippi and the Missouri. Your country is blessed by all these beautyful things, and you don't see?

[Didymus Much]

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...By the way, I would prefer Iowa a thousand times more than Cologne...

And that's proof that you've never been to Iowa.