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  • endofdays
    Unsaved trash
    • May 2014
    • 23

    #1

    Does an aborted baby

    or a small child that dies, that would have grown up to reject Jesus go to heaven? If it does go to heaven and if free will exists in heaven, wouldn't the baby just go ahead and reject Jesus in heaven?

    In my early twenties I knocked up a gal and she just went and got an abortion and I was like whatever, we never even spoke of it. She just peered into my eyes with a cold murderous, questioning, fearful look and I blankly stared back because at the time I didn't believe in the afterlife and I didn't want some little brat getting in the way sucking up all my precious resources. I used to believe that all babies and aborted fetus' went to heaven no matter what but the more I read the bible, the more I can envision and fantasize about God burning babies in hell that would have grown up to reject him. I've since wondered now that I am saved if my kid is in hell right now writhing in the worst agony imaginable and if I should be happy since if it truly is there then it obviously deserves it for all of eternity.

    Then I wondered if God wants babies to burn, maybe the smell is more pleasant to his nostrils than old flesh. Kinda like veil versus stringy aged beef.
  • Mary Etheldreda
    Gushing for Jesus
     
    • Sep 2011
    • 23775

    #2
    Re: Does an aborted baby

    A wonderful question! As with all questions, the answer can be found in the pages of the Holy Bible, God's Love Letter to His Children (John 1:12; Romans 8:14-16).



    He that believeth on him is not condemned:
    but he that believeth not is condemned already,
    because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
    John 3:18

    He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;
    but he that believeth not shall be damned.
    Mark 16:16

    And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest,
    but to them that believed not?
    So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.
    Hebrews 3:18-19

    Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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    • Jedediah
      True Christian™ Creation Scientist
      Fisher of Men
      True Christian™
      • Feb 2010
      • 6824

      #3
      Re: Does an aborted baby

      My sister grappled with similar issues after her miscarriage. Here is my response to her, as a Christian.

      Psalm 51:5
      Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

      Basically, either you accept Jesus Christ as your personal LORD and Savior, or you go to hell for all eternity. Dead babies fall into the latter category.

      II Thessalonians 1:7-9
      And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
      In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
      Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



      The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony

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      • endofdays
        Unsaved trash
        • May 2014
        • 23

        #4
        Re: Does an aborted baby

        What is the age of accountability specified as? Does this mean to imply there could be a point in time where one week an individual isn't accountable for anything and the next week he/she is? So if you happen to 'die' during the first week, there's one set of standards applied to you, but if you happen to 'die' a week later, a different set of standards? Does this seem uniform and sensible in a Universe where everything has a definitive order/structure/design? How much difference can you actually discern in an individual over the course of a few weeks, or even one year? What about individuals born with reduced intellectual and cognitive capacities? Or individuals who mature at different rates and different ages? Is there one predetermined 'age of accountability' or must a different standard be applied to each unique individual?

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        • Didymus Much
          Unsaved trash, Arrogant Atheist Dick
          • Jun 2010
          • 14079

          #5
          Re: Does an aborted baby

          Originally posted by endofdays View Post
          What is the age of accountability specified as?...
          It's not. It doesn't exist in the Bible. The Bible says if you die for whatever reason before you accept Christ and are baptized, you go to Hell.

          The Catholics and other false Christians will say different, but when asked why will hem and haw and mutter something about "tradition", and so are destined for the same Hell (according to the Bible) as Muslims, atheists, Hindus, Buddhists, pretty much everyone except True Christians(tm).

          Hope this helps.

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          • Jedediah
            True Christian™ Creation Scientist
            Fisher of Men
            True Christian™
            • Feb 2010
            • 6824

            #6
            Re: Does an aborted baby

            Originally posted by endofdays View Post
            What is the age of accountability specified as?
            "Age of accountability"? Can you point us to any Holy Scripture to support this notion, or are you confusing your own deluded sense of morality with Jesus' teachings?
            II Thessalonians 1:7-9
            And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
            In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
            Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



            The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony

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            • Mother Of Seven
              True Christian™ with a quiverful
              • Jan 2014
              • 2243

              #7
              Re: Does an aborted baby

              Originally posted by endofdays View Post
              What is the age of accountability specified as?
              I think what you mean is the age that a person accepts God into their life and is baptised. Children are too young to make this decision, therefore all small children who die burn in the flames of Hell for eternity. Those false Christians who baptise small babies are clearly defying God's Holy Word, as babies are too young to make a decision to dedicate their lives to the Lord. Generally the age that a child is capable of making such a decision is in their teenage years.
              Mark 16:16 is really the definitive aspect of this:
              Originally posted by God
              He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

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              • Pastor Isaac Peters
                Senior Pastor
                Ex-liberal; converted to True Christianity™
                Always Biblically correct
                True Christian™
                • Sep 2006
                • 10639

                #8
                Re: Does an aborted baby

                Originally posted by Mother Of Seven View Post
                I think what you mean is the age that a person accepts God into their life and is baptised. Children are too young to make this decision, therefore all small children who die burn in the flames of Hell for eternity. Those false Christians who baptise small babies are clearly defying God's Holy Word, as babies are too young to make a decision to dedicate their lives to the Lord. Generally the age that a child is capable of making such a decision is in their teenage years.
                Exactly. Believer's baptism is the only Biblically sound form of baptism:

                [Acts 8:36-37 KJV] 36 And as they went on [their] way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, [here is] water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

                This offer is not available to children too young to have the requisite belief (let alone aborted babies).
                This church is dedicated to preaching True Christianity™ and the King James Bible exactly as they are, with no alterations to make them more politically correct for modern liberals. If you think that we've misquoted or twisted Scripture or quoted any verse out of context, please explain in detail how we've done so. Otherwise, if what you read on this site offends you, then you're offended by Almighty God and His Word, not by us.

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