[neo hippie]

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So because God made all humans equal, and showed by giving the example of a potter making a piece as good as he can, that means some humans aren't as good as others??

Take a look at these scriptures;

Galatians 3:28

Acts 10:34-35

Romans 2:9-11

Colossians 3:11

John 13:34

Genesis 1:27

Revelation 5:9-10

Mark 12:31

[Mary Etheldreda]

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So because God made all humans equal, and showed by giving the example of a potter making a piece as good as he can, that means some humans aren't as good as others??

God created all humans equal in sin, offensive to the LORD by our very nature (Job 15:14; Ephesians 2:3). Those who choose to give up sin through repentance and believe are made into new creatures (2 Corinthians 5:17), creatures that are impervious to further sin (1 John 3:9).

Take a look at these scriptures;

Gladly!

Galatians 3:28

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Consider that last phrase, dear: "for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." To be "in Christ Jesus" is to be a member of the Body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:27). Those who are not "in Christ Jesus," those who are members of the Body of Christ, are not "one." They are not equal to those who are Saved.

Acts 10:34-35

Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

But you see, not everyone does fear Him, not everyone does work righteousness, so therefore, not everyone is accepted with Him.

Romans 2:9-11

Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
For there is no respect of persons with God.

Yes, but you must recall that no one can worketh good unless he has first died with Christ (Romans 6:6-7). No Holy Spirit, no good worketh. We have a word for Jew who repents of his sin and accepts Jesus Christ: "Christian."

Colossians 3:11

Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

Go back to the beginning of the chapter. It sets up the context for you:

If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
Colossians 3:1

Only he who is risen with Christ is a Born Again Christian (John 3:3). A Jew rejects Christ, so there is naturally no Jew in the Body. This verse also shows us political borders don't make a difference.

John 13:34

A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Perhaps by now you're starting to see a trend. You can learn more in our dear Pastor's lovely and Spirit Filled sermon: Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

Genesis 1:27

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Amen! But keep in mind, sin then entered the world (Romans 5:12). Divine Justice demands Divine Payment, and Jesus Christ is the only payment that works (Romans 5:17).

Revelation 5:9-10

And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Yes! This confirms what I said about the last verse!

Mark 12:31

And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Now you're getting it! I love my neighbor (True Christian™) as myself! It's true! Praise Jesus!

[neo hippie]

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God created all humans equal in sin, offensive to the LORD by our very nature (Job 15:14; Ephesians 2:3). Those who choose to give up sin through repentance and believe are made into new creatures (2 Corinthians 5:17), creatures that are impervious to further sin (1 John 3:8)

Exactly, we are made equally despicable in the eyes of the Lord. If we are all equally bad, then no two races are better or worse than the other.

Consider that last phrase, dear: "for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." To be "in Christ Jesus" is to be a member of the Body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:27). Those who are not "in Christ Jesus," those who are members of the Body of Christ, are not "one." They are not equal to those who are Saved.

Again, exactly. Never did I say non-believers were included in those scriptures. This is a debate about whether races are equal or unequal in the eyes of the Lord. If an Asian and a Latino both come to follow the Lord, they are equal in his eyes.

]But you see, not everyone does fear Him, not everyone does work righteousness, so therefore, not everyone is accepted with Him.

But for the people who do, race doesn't matter.

]Yes, but you must recall that no one can worketh good unless he has first died with Christ (Romans 6:6-7). No Holy Spirit, no good worketh. We have a word for Jew who repents of his sin and accepts Jesus Christ: "Christian."

I'm talking about the Jewish race, not the religion.

Only he who is risen with Christ is a Born Again Christian (John 3:3). A Jew rejects Christ, so there is naturally no Jew in the Body. This verse also shows us political borders don't make a difference.

Exactly, political borders don't matter, proving another point; hating another country but loving this one makes no sense.

Perhaps by now you're starting to see a trend. You can learn more in our dear Pastor's lovely and Spirit Filled sermon: Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

I completely agree, we should love our brothers and sisters in Christ with all our hearts. No matter what race.

]Amen! But keep in mind, sin then entered the world (Romans 5:12). Divine Justice demands Divine Payment, and Jesus Christ is the only payment that works (Romans 5:17).

Amen to that, sister!

]Now you're getting it! I love my neighbor (True Christian™) as myself! It's true! Praise Jesus!

You "True Christians" are hateful and unaccepting, but sometimes you can realize you're wrongs, which I hope all who read this thread will do.

[Alvin Moss]

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It has been the White man's burden to carry the Word of God to those lesser races you speak of and we have done fairly well, considering that our opponent is the Devil and his bag of tricks. Many Negroes, Mexicans and even Arabs have come to Jesus and are beloved by Him. They are indeed our Brothers and Sisters. Others; not so much.

As you may know, the Jews, who are White (technically), were God's chosen people. Note that they were chosen, in that the Lord chose them, not the other way around. He could have come before Chinamen or Induns, but He didn't. He came to the Jews, who were the only White people in the entire Holy Land. Why do you think He didn't choose the more numerous Arabs?

We get a lot of smart Yankee athiests who think they can out wit Christians, but you aren't one of them. All of your questions could easily have been answered by you if only you would read the Bible, which is essentially the operators manual for people, but you would rather try to appear smart while revealing your lack of understanding as you do it.

You are of the lesser White race, those who are Yankees. Still, there is hope for you. Reject your devilish attitude and come to Jesus. It's that or Hell. Don't go there; it's too hot.

[3Inver9]

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Neo hippie is trying to to find a verse in the bible that backs up claim that any race is better than any other race, but the question has been dodged and egotistic answers has been said. This is one of the reasons why 30% of people in America are non-religious now. The world is changing (Bob Dylan said it best), and people are starting to see that the mind and not the color of someones skin is the only limitation, so younger generations see this religious racism and start to turn away from religion.

[neo hippie]

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It has been the White man's burden to carry the Word of God to those lesser races you speak of and we have done fairly well, considering that our opponent is the Devil and his bag of tricks. Many Negroes, Mexicans and even Arabs have come to Jesus and are beloved by Him. They are indeed our Brothers and Sisters. Others; not so much.

But puts those races any lower than us?? God made all men equal, when you come to Christ is doesn't matter what color your skin is, as I proved with the verses I quoted.

Even in the constitution of your beloved nation America, it says, "all men created equal." If you guys so quickly quote the Constitution for your gun rights, you can't ignore other parts of it. We call that cherry picking.

As you may know, the Jews, who are White (technically), were God's chosen people. Note that they were chosen, in that the Lord chose them, not the other way around. He could have come before Chinamen or Induns, but He didn't. He came to the Jews, who were the only White people in the entire Holy Land. Why do you think He didn't choose the more numerous Arabs?

On that logic, why didn't he pick the completely white, not the "technically" white? And the Jews were God's chosen people because they followed his word. If all the Arabs had been following God, he would have chosen them too. He also picked them because they descended from Abraham, who God chose to be the father of his people. And Abraham was just some guy who God chose because he loved God. If some Arab had held more devotion for the Lord, he would have chose him.

We get a lot of smart Yankee athiests who think they can out wit Christians, but you aren't one of them. All of your questions could easily have been answered by you if only you would read the Bible, which is essentially the operators manual for people, but you would rather try to appear smart while revealing your lack of understanding as you do it.

Except I am not an atheist. I am a firm believer in the Lord of Lords, the King of Kings, The Father the Son and The Holy Ghost, God. And insulting my intelligence based on nothing, because I have proven my point only lessens your argument.

You are of the lesser White race, those who are Yankees. Still, there is hope for you. Reject your devilish attitude and come to Jesus. It's that or Hell. Don't go there; it's too hot.

I assure you, I do not wish to go to Hell. I fail to see why being loving and tolerant of all races would get me there.....

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Exactly, we are made equally despicable in the eyes of the Lord. If we are all equally bad, then no two races are better or worse than the other.

I see what you're getting at. You still think we're racist. No, see all people are born by nature equally bad. Not all people choose to maintain this state of offense. Those who do repent, are Born Again. Because a True Christian™ cannot sin, there is no more curse! We have an enormously successful ex-negro program here that utilizes the very facts of Scripture. If you're concerned with your negroidal tendencies, we can help!

[Alvin Moss]

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Your reply mixes fuzzy logic with your own opinion, seasoned with attempted agreement with what I wrote. None of the drivel you have presented here is valid. To take the Lord's word out of context and try to use it with a different meaning than the Lord intended is what we here call cherry picking.

Let me remind you, this is not a debate forum. You are not the first heathen who has come here to splain things to us and you will not be the last.

[Alvin Moss]

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Do you think he is a Negroe, Sister?

President Obama may have sent him to spy.

[neo hippie]

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I see what you're getting at. You still think we're racist. No, see all people are born by nature equally bad. Not all people choose to maintain this state of offense. Those who do repent, are Born Again. Because a True Christian™ cannot sin, there is no more curse! We have an enormously successful ex-negro program here that utilizes the very facts of Scripture. If you're concerned with your negroidal tendencies, we can help!

The article you posted is extremely racist, as is what you said. Actually what you said made almost no sense. You say everyone is born equally bad, and that you guys transcend that. But then you randomly say that you have a successful "ex-negroe" program. What does that have to do with you guys no longer sinning?? Are you saying that negroes can't become "True Christians"??? Because the article you posted clearly states they can....

Speaking of the article, it is founded on extremely racist stereotypes that are in no way true.

And how can you comment like that, and post an article like that, and maintain your claim at not being racist??

To Alvin; how are the scriptures I quoted a misrepresentation of what the Lord means?? He is pretty blatantly saying that all races are equal to the Lord, as long as they follow him. Especially Galatians 3:28.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Do you think he is a Negroe, Sister?

President Obama may have sent him to spy.

It doesn't make sense any other way, Brother. You know how they say the people who put up the biggest stink do so because they feel guilty? I think this poor fellow feels guilty for the color of his skin, as it reveals the very depth of his addiction to sin. Maybe Obama sent him as a spy, I wouldn't put it past him, and we know he's got his grubby little fingers in all kinds of things, but I think this poor fellow is desperate for answers and his church has failed him.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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The article you posted is extremely racist, as is what you said. Actually what you said made almost no sense. You say everyone is born equally bad, and that you guys transcend that. But then you randomly say that you have a successful "ex-negroe" program. What does that have to do with you guys no longer sinning?? Are you saying that negroes can't become "True Christians"??? Because the article you posted clearly states they can....

Speaking of the article, it is founded on extremely racist stereotypes that are in no way true.

And how can you comment like that, and post an article like that, and maintain your claim at not being racist??

Did you read the article? Don't just skim it, but read it. Refer to the Holy Bible for the accuracy of the information in the article. Pray about it. Ask the Holy Ghost to guide you.