Thanksgiving/Black Friday is a Pagan Autumn Harvest Holiday, don't celebrate it!

[Romeo Rovagnati]

Taken from a Wicked Wiccan of the Web website:

As the second of the three harvest festivals we celebrate, Mabon represents the height of nature’s abundance. That makes it the perfect opportunity to look back at the blessings we have received during the season and the year at large.
This Sabbat gives us a chance to reflect but also prepare for the days ahead. Basically, if Samhain corresponds with the mainstream celebrations of Halloween, you can think of Mabon as the witch’s Thanksgiving. With that in mind, it might be helpful to know exactly when we usually celebrate this momentous occasion.

Americans needs to stop celebrating this Holiday, as it is not about dead Heatens, but Autumn Demons and Consumerism!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Thanksgiving/Black Friday is a Pagan Autumn Harvest Holiday, don't celebrate it!

How many "Saints Days" do you have again?

[Dennis Lukes]

Re: Thanksgiving/Black Friday is a Pagan Autumn Harvest Holiday, don't celebrate it!

Considering that you yourself are a pagan, shouldn't you be encouraging us to celebrate it?

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Thanksgiving/Black Friday is a Pagan Autumn Harvest Holiday, don't celebrate it!

Although pagans are not all idolators——some neopagans worship things like magnetic fields for example——the ROMISH versions are ALL idolatrous. Among those who venerate or adore idols, and to describe them as a freak show would be inappropriate here I feel, how often do they haul off and start murdering one another? All the time. It could be the moon idol maniacs taking umbrage at the presence of big fat 27 armed purple elephant idols. What do you thing would happen? Fortunately we have history to instruct us: utter bloodbath 24/7 for 4 or 6 or 8 centuries, depending on where you start counting and whether you think it's stopped.

Moon worship itself has no integrity: dozens of factions blowing one another up and destroying architecture willy-nilly. God is absolutely explicit what constitutes an idol so there's no room for opinion but then we get to New Age Crystal nutters. SOME of them set up revolting statues of overfed Orientals sitting in impossible positions (unless you're a Sumo wrestler perhaps: they're quite agile aren't they?) and of abstract concepts like "Lignam" and "Yoni" which are fashioned from wood or rock and set up in little shrines. Very often they'll produce obviously demonic filagree work or vibrant cloisonné.

IDOLATROUS . CLOISONNÉ . METALWORK

idolatrous human	idolatrous serpent	idolatrous bird
[ATTACH]31621[/ATTACH]	[ATTACH]31622[/ATTACH]	[ATTACH]31623[/ATTACH]

Multiple styles are in vogue from the hackneyed "Ancient Egyptian" to the surprisingly delicate Anglo-Saxon, from time to time and according to which world you "were very active in" a millennium or three ago. Among pagans, then, no concord is to be found ESPECIALLY NOT where magic nights or sacred days are concerned. Even adoring the moon in the wrong way is enough to get one's head chopped off by rival moon sects and the history of Rome is virtually nonstop butchery. Inquisitions. Flagellation. Bloody conquests. The convert or die ethos. Praying to worthless idols in the face of calamity, idols manufactured expressly to be sold, yet when that idol is Quetzalcoatl sold by a rival pagan creed WHAT HAPPENS?

Again history provides the answer, helping us to understand why wretched Rovagnati is so selective in the cultic feast days he promotes. Happily what I do does not require his endorsement and if I offend popish protocols there are no sanctions he can impose. They'd like that to change and will use any sneaky device to slither their way back into legislative bodies. And THAT explains why SPECIFIC feasts and commemorations ARE encouraged: a longterm agenda to get everyone back on their wavelength.

Perhaps geriatric Frank is obsessing over magnetic fields after all.

[WWJDnow]

Re: Thanksgiving/Black Friday is a Pagan Autumn Harvest Holiday, don't celebrate it!

I have nothing against a good holiday sale, but why does it have to be Black Friday? Don't the negroes already get enough handouts?

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: Thanksgiving/Black Friday is a Pagan Autumn Harvest Holiday, don't celebrate it!

Americans needs to stop celebrating this Holiday, as it is not about dead Heathens, but Autumn Demons and Consumerism!

You Jesuits are simply not Christians. A genuine Christian spends big at Christmas time, just as the three rich men did when Baby Jesus was born. They did not come to the stable and preach against consumerism. Following the star to Jesus is like we do today when we follow the traffic to the mall. It's to spur on the economy.

Go back up the mountain to your monastery and ponder this anti consumerism heresy.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Thanksgiving/Black Friday is a Pagan Autumn Harvest Holiday, don't celebrate it!

As you know, I try to understand other persons' points of view and in this case I'd try to imagine how Frank sees things. Perhaps it's a bit like school debating societies where you're given a topic and then told which side you'll be arguing. Personally I can't see the point of that when surely there'd be teachers walking around with erroneous opinions that needed correction? Why grow exotic species in a hothouse when there's perfectly good flowers growing naturally all around.

Vatican City is a hothouse. The head honcho lives there and becomes infused with everything he does and sees and hears every day. Presumably he and his creatures sleep but even then the ears still work and the noses smell. (Ha Ha, I remember one time I was asleep and a parent was playing vinyl through headphones and turned it over and the headphone jack was loose so when the next track started it was coming out the speakers too. Here's the track:

In my dream, there was a large nondescript machine, larger than a house, moving along with a big crunching thing going kurr-Unch, 1 house crushed, kurr-Unch, 2nd house crushed, kurr-Unch, 3rd house etc., etc., and as the music got louder so the machine got nearer to the house we were in. Although I was really dreaming, what I was dreaming wasn't really happening.)

Go back up the mountain to your monastery and ponder this anti consumerism heresy.

Vatican reflections would be just like that dream, except there's no reality there when you wake up and stagger back down the mountain (or stairs in my case) “What's going on?” because where your dream originated there's simply more of the same. Neither Bergoglio nor Rovagnati could ever really ponder anything. Every hour of the day is simply an interlude between one set piece and the next, perhaps like running a computer program. You give it a sum, it works it out, it displays the answer on a screen.

1 + 1 takes very little time but complex industrial problems need longer, so much so that major industries build their own supercomputers to handle the task. While that's running the screen doesn't do much: you could draw a picture or something. That's one I made while the coffee was doing. (It links to a larger version you could print out for gift wrapping.) But quite soon, “Ping!” it's time to collect the coffee [in my case] or abase yourself before a skeleton [in Frank's case] or say a mass [Rovagnati] and the screen's reset to blank waiting for the next challenge. Of course, you could ask them to ponder their heresy again BUT they wouldn't start from where they left off. They'd start from where they started before – and get no further because it's just an idle frippery until the real business kicks back in.

Considering that you yourself are etc.

For those reasons, considering what he himself is is an impossible task. Something goes off in their heads and the higher purpose calls, could be anything, let's say the time for fixing monstrous rubies in the eye sockets of a dead skeleton has arrived or maybe extortion duties lying to peasants to get their grandnephews out of Limbo.

“Limbo? Did somebody say ‘Limbo?’ We don't believe in that any more.”
..OK, purgatory.
“Yes, your grandnephew could be in there and boy is it painful! Poor little thing. I can hear him now: "ow! ow! ow! ow! ow! " he's saying. These candles are $380 per box, made in Rome by cardinals, shall I put you down for a dozen boxes?” Yes. Yes. Two dozen boxes! Oh, and can I get a refund for those statues you sold me to redeem protestant babies from Limbo? If there's no such place, nothing you said would happen could happen could it?

“No.”

I've tried to understand this from an appropriate perspective but it really is difficult. Either their screens keep going blank and it's back to the corpse worship or, in any other case, they'd continue their ponderings and abandon catholicism for the fraud it obviously is. Even by their own standards, freezing onto centuries worth of money extracted via the lie of Limbo – just so long as the hat fund doesn't dry up. Here's Frank checking out a new hat. Something quiet and understated I thought. How about this one? Too few diamonds maybe? No, that will do nicely.